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jerry1 · 09:36 PM

According to Think Secret.

http://www.thinksecret.com/news/newipods.html

Krypton · Jul 17, 2004, 01:15 PM

I'm tempted to believe them (as they are the best for rumours), but this seems a little soon.

Also, Apple have been known to delay announcements when leaks like this occur that appear so certain.

OSX Abuser · Jul 17, 2004, 01:32 PM

Will my Wife let me buy a third iPod??
Can thinksecret be believed?
Any pictures?
How much?

Agasthya · Jul 17, 2004, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by OSX Abuser:
Will my Wife let me buy a third iPod??
Can thinksecret be believed?
Any pictures?
How much?

Unknown.
Yes.
No.
Unknown.

HotSoup · Jul 17, 2004, 01:45 PM

They said they expect lower prices, but I doubt it.

itai195 · Jul 17, 2004, 02:04 PM

Ugh my girlfriend just bought me a new iPod two weeks ago. I had a feeling this was going to happen

wataru · Jul 17, 2004, 02:06 PM

I just got a 30GB one last Monday

amsalpemkcus · Jul 17, 2004, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by OSX Abuser:
Will my Wife let me buy a third iPod??

what the hell do you need 3 ipods for?

jerry1 · Jul 17, 2004, 02:16 PM

Originally posted by HotSoup:
They said they expect lower prices, but I doubt it.

I guess the 60GB model will be $499 with 40GB being lowered to $449. Dunno for sure, but that looks like what they are referring to.

Originally posted by Krypton:
I'm tempted to believe them (as they are the best for rumours), but this seems a little soon.

Its about time according to Apple's previous updates.

Days Since iPod Update: 193 (Average = 161)

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/

OldManMac · Jul 17, 2004, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by OSX Abuser:
Will my Wife let me buy a third iPod??
Can thinksecret be believed?
Any pictures?
How much?

How should I know?
Only if you want to believe. Unless they're being fed info by someone who's violating an NDA, they don't know anymore than you or I.
No.
Who knows?

Busemann · Jul 17, 2004, 02:33 PM

My library has grown to a respectable 68GB. Are 80GB iPods too much to ask for? (of course it is

)

KeyLimePi · Jul 17, 2004, 02:44 PM

If this is true, it really is kind of a slap in the face to Macworld Boston (or whatever they call it now). Jobs releases new monitors and demos Tiger a week or so before, then a week or so after he releases new iPods.

nredman · Jul 17, 2004, 03:00 PM

Originally posted by Busemann:
My library has grown to a respectable 68GB. Are 80GB iPods too much to ask for? (of course it is )

68GB GOOD LORD! are those all ripped from cds or downloaded?

i think i have about 4gb...most i dont even listen to.

jld · Jul 17, 2004, 08:11 PM

I got pushed into the pool with my original 5 gig ipod in my pocket, a couple weeks ago. My brother in law felt bad and promised to replace it. I wanted to wait for a new release, but he felt so bad he went out and got me one last week.

jerry1 · 08:53 PM

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ender2002 · Jul 17, 2004, 08:27 PM

nah, this is one picture

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Se...COVER.320w.jpg

gorickey · Jul 17, 2004, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by ender2002:
nah, this is one picture

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Se...COVER.320w.jpg

Nice.

mindwaves · Jul 17, 2004, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by ender2002:
nah, this is one picture

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Se...COVER.320w.jpg

chabig · Jul 17, 2004, 08:46 PM

Where did that picture come from?

Spheric Harlot · Jul 17, 2004, 08:50 PM

I have a friend stateside right now, for another three weeks.

No info on availability yet.

Argh.

greenamp · Jul 17, 2004, 08:51 PM

My guess is newsweek via msnbc.com?

jerry1 · Jul 17, 2004, 08:52 PM

Updated first post.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 17, 2004, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by chabig:
Where did that picture come from?

the msnbc news site.

It's the cover for Monday's issue of TIME Magazine.

EDIT: THE COVER SAYS "JULY 26th".

ender2002 · Jul 17, 2004, 08:55 PM

newsweek

Spheric Harlot · Jul 17, 2004, 08:58 PM

oh.

Gankdawg · 08:16 AM

Monday? No.

It's always a Tuesday....

Gotta coincide with the new releases, ya know....

cjrivera · Jul 17, 2004, 09:52 PM

I've got a 10gb with the touch scrollwheel and the 4 buttons around the wheel and I have an iPod mini with the controls on the wheel itself.

Is it just me or what, but I like the original setup with the 4 buttons on the circumference of the wheel much better than than what's pictured on this next gen iPod. (although the mini interface is a lot better than the buttons above the wheel)

Stogieman · Jul 17, 2004, 10:43 PM

I agree. The original iPod had the best button setup. And i prefer mechanical scroll wheel over the touch wheel too.

Hey, IronKnee, another cover to add to your collection.

Eriamjh · Jul 17, 2004, 10:55 PM

Meh. Same controls as a mini. Big whoop.

ReggieX · Jul 17, 2004, 10:59 PM

Originally posted by nredman:
68GB GOOD LORD! are those all ripped from cds or downloaded?

I have 102GB at this point, all downloaded, and that's just the stuff that's been archived.

TheJoshu · Jul 17, 2004, 11:01 PM

Usually it's Time magazine with the early product photos. (LCD iMac, right?)

TailsToo · Jul 17, 2004, 11:18 PM

Wow 10 GB is all of the music I own.

How many of you that have 50+GB actually listen to most of it?

Agasthya · Jul 17, 2004, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by Stogieman:
I agree. The original iPod had the best button setup. And i prefer mechanical scroll wheel over the touch wheel too.

Hey, IronKnee, another cover to add to your collection.

My only problem with the mechanical scroll wheel was that after using it for a while (~6 months) it got really loose and when I was jogging with the iPod and didn't have the hold button on, it would switch volume levels and that was highly annoying.

Hawkeye_a · Jul 18, 2004, 12:21 AM

This is the upgrade ive been waiting for. personally i never liked the interface of the current iPod. i have a first gen and like the buttons around the scroll wheel. But im glad they have incorporated the mini's interface, cause i think its the best thus far. my iPods goin up on eBay

PacHead · Jul 18, 2004, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by jerry1:
I guess the 60GB model will be $499 with 40GB being lowered to $449. Dunno for sure, but that looks like what they are referring to.

A 50 dollar difference between 60 gig and 40 gig ? Nobody in their right mind would buy the 40 gig. I highly doubt those prices.

Otherwise, the new ipod looks cool. I don't actually have one yet, so maybe it's a good time to get one. I don't like MP3's, and I figure a big model will hold a few AIFF's.

chabig · Jul 18, 2004, 01:22 AM

The question that most interests me is availability. Immediate or near future?

SeSawaya · Jul 18, 2004, 01:32 AM

oh man, time to sell my 40!!!!

Anyone interested?

MindFad · Jul 18, 2004, 01:40 AM

Wow, looks very nice. Pretty much the same, but I like that bluish centerpiece with all the buttons on it. Looks like I might finally cave and save up for one.

hyperb0le · Jul 18, 2004, 01:52 AM

Looks good. I bet the scrollwheel gets lit up red when the backlight is on. Otherwise, it would probably be solid white instead of frosty-colored.

chabig · Jul 18, 2004, 01:55 AM

I don't think it's been mentioned yet, but Spymac has linked to the Newsweek story.

tavilach · Jul 18, 2004, 02:21 AM

Wait...

So, the winners of the iTMS sweepstakes...

...will get old iPods?

...or?

King Bob On The Cob · Jul 18, 2004, 02:26 AM

MSNBC - You heard it here first!

angelmb · Jul 18, 2004, 03:59 AM

really wonderful !

BTW: what model are Steve�s glasses?, cool ones

joelcpa · Jul 18, 2004, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by jld:

I got pushed into the pool with my original 5 gig ipod in my pocket, a couple weeks ago. My brother in law felt bad and promised to replace it. I wanted to wait for a new release, but he felt so bad he went out and got me one last week.

...so you just got a new iPod to replace one that's a couple of years old and you're pissed?

Spheric Harlot · Jul 18, 2004, 08:06 AM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457434/site/newsweek/

More efficient menus. There's less thumbing required to get to your favorite stuff. "Music" is a first-level entry, and now a single click initiates the popular technique of shuffling your library for playback.

New features. You can create multiple on-the-go playlists and delete songs from those ad hoc mixes. And audiobooks are not only easier to find, you can listen to them at normal speed, slower or 25 percent faster, without its sounding like a Munchkin.

Longer play. Coast-to-coasters rejoice: the new iPods are rated for 12 hours of rockin' between charges�a 50 percent boost in battery life. This is accomplished, Apple says, not by a heavier battery but diligent conservation of power.

Lower price. The top-of-the-line iPod, holding 10,000 songs (40 gigs, as geeks will tell you), now costs $399. The lower-capacity model, with room for 5,000 songs (20 gigs), costs $299. That's a $100 price reduction for each. (There's no more 15-gig model.)

No recording capability?

No sale to me, Apple.

joelcpa · Jul 18, 2004, 08:11 AM

Originally posted by TailsToo:
How many of you that have 50+GB actually listen to most of it?

I doubt there are that many people that have a collection that requires a 40 to 60 gb ipod. What it would allow is re-burning at lower compression rates for a better quality listening experience.

joelcpa · Jul 18, 2004, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
No recording capability?

No sale to me, Apple.

What's the big deal, you can get an add-on to do this if you MUST have this feature .. but, I don't need it and I wouldn't want to pay for it either. I'm guessing Apple has done enough research to know that this is another feature that not that many people will make a buying decision based on that feature alone.

If they put everything in it that someone said "... if they don't put feature xyz in the ipod, no sale to me, Apple" the ipod would be as big as a car.

jerry1 · Jul 18, 2004, 08:33 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5457434/site/newsweek/

No recording capability?

No sale to me, Apple.

You forgot to mention that the new iPod is only available in white. I'm glad that Apple didnt introduce colors in the mainstream iPod.

And yeah whats the big deal about recording ? Agree with what joelcpa said.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 18, 2004, 08:37 AM

Originally posted by joelcpa:
What's the big deal, you can get an add-on to do this if you MUST have this feature .. but, I don't need it and I wouldn't want to pay for it either. I'm guessing Apple has done enough research to know that this is another feature that not that many people will make a buying decision based on that feature alone.

I own a 5GB iPod.

The ONLY thing that will justify purchase of a new one is REAL recording capability. What the current generation does is NOT proper recording. I'm sorry, but 8-bit 22kHz mono is useless (for anything other than voice memo).

If the iPod could record even in 128kbps mp3 (and the chips inside ARE capable, AFAIK), it would kill the market for minidisk recorders overnight. Every journalist I know would buy one (they're all on minidisk currently), as would every musician and sound technician (a lot of those already have one, but the rest that don't invariably cite lack of recording-capability as the clincher).

Originally posted by joelcpa:
I doubt there are that many people that have a collection that requires a 40 to 60 gb ipod. What it would allow is re-burning at lower compression rates for a better quality listening experience.

"re-burning at lower compression rates"...huh?

Also, I keep reading that people don't have such large collections of music. Comes up every time the iPod is discussed.

Bull argument.

a) I know many that DO have such a large collection - much of it legal. Music collectors are not, and have never been, a rare phenomenon.

b) Why do you people keep missing that the PRIMARY feature advantage the iPod has over competitors is FireWire/USB2 mass storage compatibility? The thing is a pocket-sized hard drive. I have never heard a sensible argument *against* more hard drive space.

-s*

moonmonkey · Jul 18, 2004, 08:41 AM

Originally posted by Eriamjh:
Meh. Same controls as a mini. Big whoop.

I expect some other features too, hopefully a big software update, the iPod G3 users will hopefully benefit from this too.

i'm pretty sure it will come with a voucher for 5 or 10 free downloads, its stupid they haven't done this yet.