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Peter · Jun 17, 2004, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by andi*pandi:
if there are any left, perhaps I should jump on this bandwagon. Peter, ol buddy ol pal?

andipandiATsaintly.com (my spam filter addy)

sent!

Peter · Jun 17, 2004, 10:49 AM

Hoping to get more invites tommorow - sorry!

awaspaas · Jun 17, 2004, 11:24 AM

I have 3 invites - first 3 emails to [email protected] will get them! Go! Go! Go!

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2004, 11:27 AM

I can't get to my account at the moment.

Server Error
Gmail is temporarily unavailable. Cross your fingers and try again in a few minutes. We're sorry for the inconvenience.

How do you guys get invites? Do they just show up in your inbox? If so, I haven't received any.

awaspaas · Jun 17, 2004, 11:31 AM

Invites are gone, have fun guys!

It shows up in a link above your inbox - "Invite a friend to join Gmail!"

TheMosco · Jun 17, 2004, 11:41 AM

Thank you very much Andy. I couldn't justify spending 100 bucks on .mac now that I have my college webspace.

But i get the same error as xi_hyperon, hopefully they will fix that soon.

awaspaas · Jun 17, 2004, 11:45 AM

Yeah it's been a little flaky today. I'm sure it will be fixed soon.

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by awaspaas:
I have 3 invites - first 3 emails to [email protected] will get them! Go! Go! Go!

Thanks for the invite, awaspaas!

anthonyvthc · Jun 17, 2004, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by awaspaas:
I have 3 invites - first 3 emails to [email protected] will get them! Go! Go! Go!

Thanks for the invite man! The server is down or something right now, so hopefully my reg. went through. I will be passing my invites out here when I get them.

SOLIDAge · Jun 17, 2004, 11:57 AM

I have One Gmail invite.
First regular macNN member to PM me gets it (no hate to "newbies" but i'd like to help out my fellow Addicts.)

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2004, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by awaspaas:
Invites are gone, have fun guys!

It shows up in a link above your inbox - "Invite a friend to join Gmail!"

It seems the problem is fixed. No invite link though. If I get one later, I'll let you guys know.

seeya · Jun 17, 2004, 12:47 PM

not sure if anyone will invite me .. i will to be active as possible ..

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 01:12 PM

Some of my thoughts after playing around with GMail:

My biggest gripe is the lack of IMAP accessibility. I understand that this would bypass the Google ads and negate the usefulness of the Google search, but still... Because of this, I can't import my old e-mail from other accounts. Also, if I ever want to leave GMail, I'll be screwed as I won't be able to export my e-mail out of their system and onto my computer. It seems to be all or nothing, forcing me to use GMail for everything forever, or use it for nothing.

My second biggest gripe is the lack of features. My account over at Airpost.net has so many amazing features I have grown to love. For example, simple things like random/rotating signatures, bouncing/redirecting messages, the address book interface (GMail's is lackluster), the ability to upload and store files, and the ability to set up "personalities" for your other addresses. There are also really complicated features like auto-syncing with a Hotmail account or migrating all of your e-mail/folders from another account to this one via IMAP.

The pluses:
1 Gig of space and unlimited bandwidth is great. Also, as you would probably expect, the Google search tool is top-notch. Although I am not sure it is so good that they decide we no longer need to archive our e-mails into folders of our own choosing. I like folders. Can Google really figure out that everything from John Smith's 10 e-mail addresses really came from that one person? I'm not so sure.

I know this is still in beta, but I would really like to see them add some of these features.

itai195 · Jun 17, 2004, 01:27 PM

You can use labels the same way as folders. But they're more useful, IMO, because labels don't force a one-to-one relationship like folders do.

I'd certainly like to see more features too, but this is still a beta service.

J the Monkey · Jun 17, 2004, 01:30 PM

Hey all, I was just told about this place, then I saw this thread, and figured I better make my 1st post here count

So, if anyone has the heart to spare an invite to a super n00b, I would be more than thrilled, and promise to return the favor 5 fold if I get the chance to! This looks like an extremely active community, so get ready to see me alot more often, as you all seem to be the same sort of Geek as me! If it's a no go on the invite, hey, no sweat, it will happen to me one day too, I'm sure, that won't offend me in the least. Anyways, just putting my name out there, and saying, "Hi!" Gimmee, gimmee, gimmee

If you are the one with the geeky heart of gold, please send the news to jthemonkey[@]sbcglobal[.]net

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 01:33 PM

Originally posted by itai195:
You can use labels the same way as folders. But they're more useful, IMO, because labels don't force a one-to-one relationship like folders do.

I'd certainly like to see more features too, but this is still a beta service.

But while folders are hierarchical, labels are not. I guess technically labels might give you more functionality than a folder structure, but their ease of use in such a situation would be almost unbearable. I'm not even sure Google's interface allows you to leverage the full power of labels.

Basically, it's much harder to work with a couple hundred labels than it is to work with a tree of folders.

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 01:53 PM

I would also love to see them incorporate GPG into their system. How would that be for getting e-mail encryption out into the general public?

itai195 · Jun 17, 2004, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
But while folders are hierarchical, labels are not. I guess technically labels might give you more functionality than a folder structure, but their ease of use in such a situation would be almost unbearable. I'm not even sure Google's interface allows you to leverage the full power of labels.

Basically, it's much harder to work with a couple hundred labels than it is to work with a tree of folders.

A couple hundred? I think it's a lot easier personally -- I use labels in combination with filtering and searching and I don't need to bother with a huge hierarchy of folders anymore... But I always approached folders as a personal enemy when organizing my mail, so I'm very happy for an alternative solution

Perhaps you can suggest to them that they add 'sub-labels' so that it's possible to form hierarchies.

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 02:02 PM

Originally posted by itai195:
A couple hundred? I think it's a lot easier personally -- I use labels in combination with filtering and searching and I don't need to bother with a huge hierarchy of folders anymore... But I always approached folders as a personal enemy when organizing my mail, so I'm very happy for an alternative solution

Perhaps you can suggest to them that they add 'sub-labels' so that it's possible to form hierarchies.

I don't know... I'm yet to be convinced. How many labels do you have?

starman · Jun 17, 2004, 02:04 PM

The lack of importing/exporting ANYTHING is a serious problem at this point. Yeah, the 1GB is nice, but everything crashes eventually.

Mike

itai195 · Jun 17, 2004, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
I don't know... I'm yet to be convinced. How many labels do you have?

I have around 25, I think (can't access Gmail from work). But two of mine are just set up with filters to label messages forwarded from my old accounts, so that I know to notify the sender that my address changed.

PacHead · Jun 17, 2004, 02:24 PM

Hey, since I now have a GMAIL account - Does anybody know the max file size that can be transferred ?

I mean, the 1 gig storage and all is cool, but ill have a different opinion if one can only send a meg or two max.

Can I receive a 100 meg file on gmail for example ? Anybody know ?

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 02:25 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Hey, since I now have a GMAIL account - Does anybody know the max file size that can be transferred ?

I mean, the 1 gig storage and all is cool, but ill have a different opinion if one can only send a meg or two max.

Can I recieve a 100 meg file on gmail for example ? Anybody know ?

10 megs is the limit on sending and receiving. Also, you can not send executable files (even if they are zipped),

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 02:26 PM

Originally posted by starman:
The lack of importing/exporting ANYTHING is a serious problem at this point. Yeah, the 1GB is nice, but everything crashes eventually.

Mike

Yeah, that is the very first suggestion I sent to Google in their feedback form. I suggest you do the same.

PacHead · Jun 17, 2004, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by Turias:
10 megs is the limit on sending and receiving. Also, you can not send executable files (even if they are zipped),

Ok, 10 megs is not that bad. Sure beats the hell out of hotmail.

When you mean executables - do you mean like .EXE ? There's no equivelant for Mac I believe.

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Ok, 10 megs is not that bad. Sure beats the hell out of hotmail.

When you mean executables - do you mean like .EXE ? There's no equivelant for Mac I believe.

I know .exes are filtered. I am positive there is a way for Google to scan for Macintosh executables, too, I'm just not sure if they do.

Anyone want to start sending me some viruses?

videian28 · Jun 17, 2004, 02:31 PM

as soon as I aquire an account I will load you up with every virisu I can get my hands on...

HINT HINT

Peter · Jun 17, 2004, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Ok, 10 megs is not that bad. Sure beats the hell out of hotmail.

When you mean executables - do you mean like .EXE ? There's no equivelant for Mac I believe.

.app

SOLIDAge · Jun 17, 2004, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by PacHead:
Ok, 10 megs is not that bad. Sure beats the hell out of hotmail.

When you mean executables - do you mean like .EXE ? There's no equivelant for Mac I believe.

beats the hell out of hotmail?
what about .mac's HORRIBLE limit of 3megs?!
i PAY for email and i can only send THREE MEGS?!?! what a HORRIBLE JOKE.

anthonyvthc · Jun 17, 2004, 03:00 PM

Is gmail not working for everybody else today too?

I keep getting server errors.

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2004, 03:15 PM

Originally posted by anthonyvthc:
Is gmail not working for everybody else today too?

I keep getting server errors.

I was earlier, but it seems to be working now.

videian28 · Jun 17, 2004, 03:21 PM

alright people, here you go

[email protected]

an empty spot awaits there for a gmail account

only YOU can make this happen

Turias · Jun 17, 2004, 03:22 PM

Originally posted by SOLIDAge:
beats the hell out of hotmail?
what about .mac's HORRIBLE limit of 3megs?!
i PAY for email and i can only send THREE MEGS?!?! what a HORRIBLE JOKE.

E-mail isn't all that's horrible with .Mac...

PacHead · Jun 17, 2004, 03:39 PM

Originally posted by SOLIDAge:
beats the hell out of hotmail?
what about .mac's HORRIBLE limit of 3megs?!
i PAY for email and i can only send THREE MEGS?!?! what a HORRIBLE JOKE.

Oh, i didn't know that. I like macs alot, but I've never been tempted to pay for a .mac account.

TheMosco · Jun 17, 2004, 03:54 PM

I am also still getting server errors.

agentz · Jun 17, 2004, 03:56 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
I was earlier, but it seems to be working now.

Wah! After all the whoring to get an invite and getting myself registered I've not been able to get logged in to gmail all friggin day today, either from home or from work

Aint even seen what the hell it looks like yet.

:sigh: Ah well, it is in Beta after all.

Peter · Jun 17, 2004, 03:58 PM

works fine here

Mastrap · Jun 17, 2004, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by Peter:
works fine here

Same here. No downtime at all.

ambush · Jun 17, 2004, 04:07 PM

It works better on Firefox, BTW.

TheMosco · Jun 17, 2004, 04:14 PM

finally, for the first time all day it works!

Thanks awaspaas.

anthonyvthc · Jun 17, 2004, 04:15 PM

Originally posted by TheMosco:
finally, for the first time all day it works!

Thanks awaspaas.

I just got in too.

It's kinda weird signing in to a completely empty email account..

agentz · Jun 17, 2004, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
It works better on Firefox, BTW.

Oh yeah, so it does!

TheMosco · Jun 17, 2004, 04:34 PM

http://gmail.prattboy.net/050604.html

http://gmail.prattboy.net/

May 6th, 1MB used.

June 15th, 1023MB used.

thats alot of spam.

gorickey · Jun 17, 2004, 04:58 PM

Originally posted by TheMosco:
http://gmail.prattboy.net/050604.html

http://gmail.prattboy.net/

May 6th, 1MB used.

June 15th, 1023MB used.

thats alot of spam.

Very interesting...thanks!

Dex13 · Jun 17, 2004, 05:00 PM

I keep missing golden opportunities � : (

PacHead · Jun 17, 2004, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by TheMosco:
http://gmail.prattboy.net/050604.html

http://gmail.prattboy.net/

May 6th, 1MB used.

June 15th, 1023MB used.

thats alot of spam.

6 Megs of SPAM in one day ? From May 11 to May 12 ? WoW. . . . .

PacHead · Jun 17, 2004, 05:20 PM

Oh, I just realized, you wanna get spammed.

3778 messages were received, totaling 213 MB. 3917 were spam, and Gmail correctly identified 41.9% of these messages.

Seems a bit off. 3917 out of 3778 were spam ?

jessejlt · Jun 17, 2004, 06:12 PM

Question:
When using Gmail with Safari, one of the shortcuts to go back to your inbox is g then i, but whenever I do that I get a system beep, followed by the expected output. Is this happening to everyone or is it something that I'm doing incorrectly?
jesse ;-)

Naz · Jun 17, 2004, 07:01 PM

my mac.com address is spam city and I pay for it

help out send gmail to [email protected]

andi*pandi · Jun 17, 2004, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by Peter:
sent!

I didn't get it...

maybe mail.com addy's are blocked? maybe try my real addy then:

aparentdesign
AT
mac.com