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willed · Feb 16, 2003, 09:23 AM

To: the three(ish) people who are pro-war and keep on posting about it (ie Atef, Spacefreak and Zimphire)

STFU. Talk about something else.
Mods, could you set up an Iraq Flaming forum for these three and those who humour them with replies?

I thank you.

The End.

snotnose · Feb 16, 2003, 09:41 AM

protests accomplish nothing...

willed · Feb 16, 2003, 10:52 AM

Oh. Yeah. I forgot. You too.

Mullah Omar · Feb 16, 2003, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by willed:
To: the three(ish) people who are pro-war and keep on posting about it (ie Atef, Spacefreak and Zimphire)

STFU. Talk about something else.
Mods, could you set up an Iraq Flaming forum for these three and those who humour them with replies?

I thank you.

The End.

are you insane? I DON'T start threads--there are only 4-7 that I have ever started. In fact, if you bothered to tally them, you'd see that most of the Iraq-based, America-based, and Bush-based threads are started by left-wingers, liberals, or those with an ANTI-war, ANTI-Great Satan, and ANTI-Bush tilt.

Given that this is soooo farking obvious, I don't see how you managed to become so misguided. Jeez.

MacGorilla · Feb 16, 2003, 11:50 AM

xi_hyperon · Feb 16, 2003, 11:55 AM

I'm all for an Iraq/North Korea/war-in-general forum, so the same 5 or so people here can have their own little romper room. I doubt that's going to happen however, and so the lounge will continue to go downhill.

philzilla · Feb 16, 2003, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
I'm all for an Iraq/North Korea/war-in-general forum, so the same 5 or so people here can have their own little romper room. I doubt that's going to happen however, and so the lounge will continue to go downhill.

what he said

MacGorilla · Feb 16, 2003, 12:12 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
I'm all for an Iraq/North Korea/war-in-general forum, so the same 5 or so people here can have their own little romper room. I doubt that's going to happen however, and so the lounge will continue to go downhill.

I third the motion.

Mullah Omar · Feb 16, 2003, 12:17 PM

the Lounge would indeed be better off if there was a quarantine section for political, foreign policy, war/anti-war, NK, Iraq, etc.

willed · Feb 16, 2003, 12:26 PM

Originally posted by Mullah Omar:
the Lounge would indeed be better off if there was a quarantine section for political, foreign policy, war/anti-war, NK, Iraq, etc.

Or just for you in fact?

I think this calls for a:

dillerX · Feb 16, 2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
I third the motion.

Motion passes. Make it so Mr. Demon.

Tristrami · Feb 16, 2003, 02:16 PM

God, yes!

Get them out of here!

NosniboR80 · Feb 16, 2003, 02:31 PM

I'm actually curious why you all have a problem with people talking politics and war/peace in particular threads. I'm serious.

Does it annoy you to take the extra nanosecond to shift your eyes over the title of an iraq or NK thread to one about waking up as the opposite sex? Besides that, how could it bother you? (I know my comment was loaded, but I really am seriously curious.)

Sure there are some idiot right-wingers, but there are smart but insanely conspiracy-theory people on the left in these forums too. Everyone should recognize this fact. Some people actually like to talk about this stuff, as opposed to guessing how many times they touch themselves a year.

Mr. Blur · Feb 16, 2003, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by NosniboR80:
I'm actually curious why you all have a problem with people talking politics and war/peace in particular threads. I'm serious.

yeah maybe.....but we've heard *every* argument on *both* sides of the issue so many times now....it is soooooo redundant.

Demonhood · Feb 16, 2003, 04:58 PM

i don't have a problem with people discussing politics, war, bush, terrorism, etc...
but, there certainly have been a lot of threads about these subjects the past few months. which is to be expected since we're close to another war. i doubt if the other admins/mods will want to create a separate forum just for this subject, especially if a war doesn't happen and the topic peeters out in a few months.
now, if fewer topics about the war were started than have been recently, i certainly wouldn't complain. but they can voice their opinions all they want in here as long as they remain civil (which seems to be very difficult for some of them).

but i'll pass the idea by the mods.
in the meantime, i would encourage all of those sick of war threads to start some non war-related topics in here.

spacefreak · Feb 16, 2003, 09:58 PM

Hmmm. It's interesting that willed's complaint only lists 3 people, all of whom are pro-removal of Saddam.

If you don't like the threads, then don't read them. The subject line contains all the necessary information you need to avoid such threads.

spacefreak · Feb 16, 2003, 10:18 PM

Originally posted by Demonhood:
but i'll pass the idea by the mods.

Be careful about establishing the wrong precedent here.

Will all major current events topics eventually require their own forum, because a few people are so offended by what is discussed in a thread they could easily have avoided in the first place?

I find it so ironic that the same people who preach for freedom of expression are also the same people who wish to limit that expression when it doesn't agree with them.

I began my posting IN RESPONSE to ridiculous, baseless, and downright fictional claims of Bush Administration corruption, warmongering, oil-grubbing, and election-stealing. Only now that I've started my own threads - defending the man and the US decision to use force if necessary - do the requests for discussion thread quarantines arise.

Ozmodiar · Feb 16, 2003, 10:26 PM

I agree with the Hood. The issue isn't the threads, it's the number of threads. This is the problem though:

Someone starts a War Thread.
Interesting discussion ensues.
Eventually someone says something stupid.
Flame war ensues.
Thread fizzles out and dies.
Someone makes a new War Thread.

spacefreak · Feb 17, 2003, 12:55 AM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
I agree with the Hood. The issue isn't the threads, it's the number of threads. This is the problem though:

Someone starts a War Thread.
Interesting discussion ensues.
Eventually someone says something stupid.
Flame war ensues.
Thread fizzles out and dies.
Someone makes a new War Thread.

Turn on any network or cable news channel. Look at the headlines in ALL major newspapers. USA/IRAQ is dominating world news. It only makes sense that this would reflect in a public discussion forum. By this logic, our government should relegate all Iraq coverage to a 'foreign-affairs' only newspaper and/or TV channel. All IRAQ & foreign affairs coverage would be banned from mainstream media as restricted by the government.

Or, you can do what a lot of other people do. Skip right to the sports section, change the channel, or find another thread. It's pretty darn simple.

As for the scenario quoted above, in the hot and heavy discussions, slightly different issues arise and evolve. That is what prompts new 'war' threads, at least from me.

There are many different issues to war. Trying to restrict all of the different issues, platforms, and positions to just one 'war' thread is unacceptable for promoting and continuing debate and discussion.

Thank you.

rampant · Feb 17, 2003, 12:59 AM

I'm getting terribly sick of all the political bullshit too.

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 01:30 AM

Originally posted by spacefreak:
Turn on any network or cable news channel. Look at the headlines in ALL major newspapers. USA/IRAQ is dominating world news. It only makes sense that this would reflect in a public discussion forum. By this logic, our government should relegate all Iraq coverage to a 'foreign-affairs' only newspaper and/or TV channel. All IRAQ & foreign affairs coverage would be banned from mainstream media as restricted by the government.

Or, you can do what a lot of other people do. Skip right to the sports section, change the channel, or find another thread. It's pretty darn simple.

As for the scenario quoted above, in the hot and heavy discussions, slightly different issues arise and evolve. That is what prompts new 'war' threads, at least from me.

There are many different issues to war. Trying to restrict all of the different issues, platforms, and positions to just one 'war' thread is unacceptable for promoting and continuing debate and discussion.

Thank you.

Oh please. This forum is not mainstream media, it's a fucking discussion section of an Apple Computer news site. Your take on my summation of the Lounge is totally out of context, with a blatant disregard for all of the sarcasm that is just oozing out of it.

You're welcome.

spacefreak · Feb 17, 2003, 02:02 AM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
Oh please. This forum is not mainstream media, it's a fucking discussion section of an Apple Computer news site. Your take on my summation of the Lounge is totally out of context, with a blatant disregard for all of the sarcasm that is just oozing out of it.

Where did I say these forums are mainstream media? How is MY take on your lounge summation out of context? Sarcasm? Where?

I just don't see your points.

Ozmodiar · Feb 17, 2003, 02:30 AM

Christ. I'm not going to play the "that's not what I said" game with you.

undotwa · Feb 17, 2003, 03:56 AM

Originally posted by rampant:
I'm getting terribly sick of all the political bullshit too.

You've started more than your fair share of Iraq threads. Hypocrit

This forum is for the discussion of just about everything that doesn't fit in the other forums. I don't see what is wrong about political discussions, as long as they don't become flame wars.

I would like to see a Political forum.

Zimphire · Feb 17, 2003, 04:11 AM

Originally posted by undotwa:

I would like to see a Political forum.

I would too. That way I might be able to ignore them all.

Spliffdaddy · Feb 17, 2003, 09:27 AM

Lose arguments then try to have the winners silenced.

Typical response from the liberal left.

Zimphire · Feb 17, 2003, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Lose arguments then try to have the winners silenced.

Typical response from the liberal left.

It seems the habit lately is to derailed the thread so much it is locked. People have obviously been doing it on purpose lately.

spacefreak · Feb 18, 2003, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Ozmodiar:
Christ. I'm not going to play the "that's not what I said" game with you.

No game here, just curious as to why you are debating me on points I never made.