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First decent PC laptop to copy Al15 size
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Just for research looked at the pc side, nothing there except the Samsung X30 which looks like a nice option for those who need to use PC's (like me unfortunately).
It's not as good looking (and runs xp), but still means things are moving forward.
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It still uses that horrible PC styled keyboard with all the keys on the right side of the keyboard (you know the home, end, Pg Up, Pg Dn). I truly think the PowerBook has the most ideal keyboard for a laptop, even if it lacks a num pad.
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Dual 2.5 GHz Power Mac G5, 1 GB RAM, 250 GB HDD, ATI Radeon X800XT.
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Ironically, considering we're talking about a Windows laptop, when I clicked the Samsung link I got a page saying, 'We are sorry - an error has occurred.'
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These two are the closest to a PowerBook 15" that I have seen so far. I had owned a Compaq X1000 series too.
Sony PowerBook Clone
Compaq X1030
Both are Centrino laptops. Light, powerful, quiet.
But still not PowerBooks though....
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Samsung has had slim and thin designs for two years now. The X30 is a little ugly tho, but the specs kill the Powerbook:
Intel� Pentium M 1.7GHz processor
nVidia GeForce FX5200 Go with 64MB DDR video memory
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) TFT display
512MB PC-2700 DDR memory
80GB 5400RPM UDMA hard disk
SPDIF digital audio optical output with 5.1 surround sound
8xDVD/24x write/24x re-write/24x CD DVD/CDRW
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You think that looks like a Powerbook????
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wow -- $2200 and no superdrive on the sony!
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Originally posted by RooneyX:
You think that looks like a Powerbook????
not i.
i don't see the point of this thread, unless it were named 'sad attempts to copy powerbook'. hasn't been done since the first powerbook, i don't think it will ever happen. i've tried most of the others; the porsche design one is nice, but still a windows machine.
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Sleek laptops didn't start with the Tis though. Apple just did it better.
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Originally posted by RooneyX:
Samsung has had slim and thin designs for two years now. The X30 is a little ugly tho, but the specs kill the Powerbook:
Intel� Pentium M 1.7GHz processor
nVidia GeForce FX5200 Go with 64MB DDR video memory
15.4" WSXGA+ (1680 x 1050) TFT display
512MB PC-2700 DDR memory
80GB 5400RPM UDMA hard disk
SPDIF digital audio optical output with 5.1 surround sound
8xDVD/24x write/24x re-write/24x CD DVD/CDRW
Come again? Kill the PowerBook? Let's look at each spec:
-The G4 will be faster than the Pentium M.
-The Radeon Mobility 9600 is decidedly faster than that nVidia.
-A screen with that resolution results in text too small for many people to read comfortably.
-RAM? Same as my PowerBook.
-HD? Same as my PowerBook.
-The digital audio output is the only thing it has better.
-Whooptiedoo, I have a DVD-R drive in my PowerBook.
Significantly, it lacks a DVI output -- it has only VGA.
Curiously, it has an internal fingerprint scanner. I wonder if it's one of the models that can be defeated with a gummy bear.
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Originally posted by tooki:
Curiously, it has an internal fingerprint scanner. I wonder if it's one of the models that can be defeated with a gummy bear.
tooki
I want one of those! I love gummy bears!
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no, actually THIS is. the Asus W1000N.
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Originally posted by tooki:
Come again? Kill the PowerBook? Let's look at each spec:
-The G4 will be faster than the Pentium M.
Did you mistakenly leave of a negative qualifier here (as in "will not be faster than")? Even the low-end Pentium-M based laptops outperform the Powerbooks at nearly every crossplatform benchmark including G4 stalwarts like Photoshop bakeoffs.
At one point Barefeats had a decent set of them (Photoshop 7, Cinebench 2003, Bryce 5, Quake 3, UT2003 and After Effects 6) between a P-M 1.3GHz w/ crappy integrated graphics and a number of powerbooks, including a lapzilla (here: http://barefeats.com/al15.html), but, for whatever reason, they removed most of it and all that's left is this:
http://barefeats.com/al15b.html
(note the P-M laptop in the UT2K3 benchmark is crippled by an integrated Intel "Extreme" Graphics chipset)
On the Arstechnica forums you can also find a number of Powerbook and Pentium-M results for PS7Bench and Cinebench.
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Regardless of the speed issue, it still runs (well maybe crawls) windoze - with its daily or even hourly security patches and inconsistant user interface.
Even if the pc runs quicker, I can work faster thanks to the mac's thoughtful design, the implementation of OSX. Besides its just plain cooler
Mike
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yes, to say the g4 will be faster than a pentium m is just plain wrong on most accounts. lets face it, we don't own/buy powerbooks for pure speed anyway.
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15 inches of aluminum fury
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