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Which browsers shoudl you have to test on?
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iluvmymactoo
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Oct 21, 2005, 12:22 AM
 
As IE is now defunct for Mac I'm wondering which internet browsers you would suggest to have for testing/debugging the sites your creating?

I'd like to keep a couple on my HD for this purpose but I'm not sure which ones.
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Oct 21, 2005, 12:45 AM
 
On the Mac: Safari, Firefox, and Camino. (The last two are both based on Gecko, but they render form controls differently).

On the PC: IE 5 (if you can), IE 6, and Firefox

And if you have access to a Linux box, Konqueror (it's not exactly the same as Safari).
     
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Oct 21, 2005, 02:18 AM
 
So considering I don't have a windows machine do you think I need to have VPC?
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Oct 21, 2005, 12:48 PM
 
Agreed: Safari, Firefox, and Camino and I usually throw Netscape in there for good measure.

But God, I LOATHE IE. Any version. I am to the point where I dont even want to worry about supporting it. Anything I do thats non paying gig (i.e. personal) I simply dont worry about it.

Yes, I know most people on pc's use that sh*t browser, but frankly if they are going to use it, I probably dont want them to view my site anyway.


I do however link to the spread firefox page in hope people on pc's will download it.

edit***i'm a bit cranky today, sorry***
     
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Oct 21, 2005, 01:17 PM
 
One other tip: despite IE/Win's popularity, it should always be the last thing you test. If you can get it working with everything else, it will usually work in IE/Win, and when it doesn't the fixes are usually fairly simple. This doesn't tend to work the other way around, however, because of all the proprietary crap in IE; getting it to work there is no guarantee that it will work anywhere else.

So always test IE/Win. It's the worst browser on the market, but it's a necessary evil. But testing it last will save you many headaches. Just make sure to budget in enough time to do that.
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Oct 21, 2005, 02:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by Millennium
One other tip: despite IE/Win's popularity, it should always be the last thing you test. If you can get it working with everything else, it will usually work in IE/Win, and when it doesn't the fixes are usually fairly simple. This doesn't tend to work the other way around, however, because of all the proprietary crap in IE; getting it to work there is no guarantee that it will work anywhere else.

So always test IE/Win. It's the worst browser on the market, but it's a necessary evil. But testing it last will save you many headaches. Just make sure to budget in enough time to do that.
But in order to do that right I really should be testing IE on a pc shouldn't I? I mean using IE for Mac isn't really the same thing?
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Oct 21, 2005, 07:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by iluvmymactoo
But in order to do that right I really should be testing IE on a pc shouldn't I? I mean using IE for Mac isn't really the same thing?
or VPC - but yes IE mac is not the same as IE PeeSea. I really hate firing up VPC just for IE web testing but it has to be done if you are being paid.

I agree totally with Millenium - test IE pc last - then work around its quirks or don't worry about them if they aren't too ugly (mostly poor CSS support).
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Oct 22, 2005, 05:28 AM
 
Well I have VPC 6.1.1 so I guess if I grab a Win 2K that should do the trick then? I'm on Tiger 10.4.2
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Oct 22, 2005, 09:44 AM
 
I like to be thorough, so I usually test in the following browsers:

Mac: Safari, IE:Mac, Camino, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla, OmniWeb
PC: IE6, Netscape, Firefox, Opera, Mozilla

Although Mozilla and Firefox should be the same, they aren't always.

Usually, I go for perfection (i.e., getting the site to look and work as I want it to) in the compliant browsers (Safari, Camino, Opera [more or less], OmniWeb, Netscape, as well as Firefox and Mozilla on both PC and Mac). For IE:Mac, I tend to settle for looking fairly okay, and being functional. For IE6, I settle for being legible and functional.
     
   
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