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Boris Yeltsin dies
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OldManMac
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Apr 23, 2007, 12:22 PM
 
A simple, and often crude, man who truly changed the world during his time.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/23/wo...rssnyt&emc=rss
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Apr 23, 2007, 12:45 PM
 
Liver failure?

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Apr 23, 2007, 10:23 PM
 
Sorry to see this. The man may have turned out to be a pretty bad president but he certainly led Russia at a time of need. Hopefully this reminds the people of Russia what they very well could be losing under Putin's reign.
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Apr 23, 2007, 10:24 PM
 
Pretty scathing article in Time:
Yeltsin's Promise and Failure | TIME

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Apr 23, 2007, 10:28 PM
 
He was a failure. He demoralized and degraded a country that was already screwed up by many decades of communism and then a dramatic implosion that allowed unprecedented wealth consolidation in the oligarchs.

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Apr 24, 2007, 08:34 AM
 
Yes, Putin is a fine democratic leader.
     
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Apr 24, 2007, 08:35 AM
 
I haven't seen anything about cause of death.

Not to make too light of the subject, but he seems ripe for an Absolut parody.
     
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Apr 24, 2007, 04:04 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
Yes, Putin is a fine democratic leader.
Ok what is your solutions for Russia? Do not forget before you talk I want a point to point economic, social, polical solution to 70 years of absolute communist dictature, and a thousand year feudal dictatorship. And saying that they should be free is a concept not a solution.

As for Yelstin, he tried for a while, but mostly he was a bridge to another leader and Putin is another bridge.
     
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Apr 24, 2007, 04:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Monique View Post
Ok what is your solutions for Russia? Do not forget before you talk I want a point to point economic, social, polical solution to 70 years of absolute communist dictature, and a thousand year feudal dictatorship. And saying that they should be free is a concept not a solution.
     
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Apr 24, 2007, 04:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by - - e r i k - - View Post
Pretty scathing article in Time:
Yeltsin's Promise and Failure | TIME
Well, at least they noted that civil war had been narrowly avoided.

And that was because of Yeltsin's guts and huge popularity.

Shelling the White House wasn't so sweet, but he pulled it off.

Would you like to think about other possibilities?

Another Russian civil war?

Or could there have been more positive variants?
     
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Apr 24, 2007, 05:03 PM
 
Interesting article on Yeltsin.

http://www.slate.com/id/2164830?nav=tap3
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Apr 25, 2007, 12:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Big Mac View Post
Liver failure?
Heart failure.
Yose.
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Apr 30, 2007, 12:59 PM
 
SLOUGH OF DESPOND

As I was retiring from full-time teaching and settling into George Town Tasmania in 1999, Boris Yeltsin(1931-2007) sent Russian troops into Kosovo and the then breakaway region of Chechnya in Russia. Teltsin had been instrumental in engineering the final collapse of the Soviet Union and state communism in the late 1980s and early 1990s. In August 1991 he rallied his country against an attempt at a coup. This coup had been aimed at reestablishing state communism. His was one of the key political pushes in Russia to establish democracy in that country. He had made a stunning debut as the Russian President. He possessed a confessional edge no previous President had possessed. This was reflected in his memoir which appeared in 1994 and it was entitled The Struggle For Russia. I had just begun to work on the second edition of my own memoir in 1994 which was becoming increasingly confessional as the editions appeared in my computer.

In my last years as a teacher, 1991 to 1999, and in Yelstin’s years as President in those same years of 1991 to 1999, he presided over a chaotic Russia, over his own chaotic behaviour, his own depressions, his alcohol problem and the 75th anniversary of Lenin’s death(1924-1999). In 1991 Yeltsin declared the Soviet Union extinct; in 1993 he banned the Russian parliament and the Communist Party. During all of this time the Arc Project of the Baha’i community proceeded apace in Haifa Israel on Mt. Carmel. -Ron Price with thanks to “FoxNews.Com Home>World and Associated Press,” 23 April 2007.

That 4 year plan1 was ending when
you resigned back in ’99, Boris and
we were developing our resources
after 80 years of the unveiling of
those Tablets during the Great War.2

The unfolding magnificence of the
Terraces was capturing attention as
a galvanic coherence was beginning
at last in expansion, consolidation,
in vision and activity, unbeknownst.

It was a festive moment in those years
with their chronology of expectations
ending with the completion of that Arc.
I’m sorry you missed it all, dear Boris,
as tangled fears seized helpless millions
and your time was ending in that slough
of despond, phantoms of a wrongly
informed imagination and those troubled
forecasts of doom which seem to have
been around all my life and yours, Boris.

1 1996-2000
2 Tablets of the Divine Plan unveiled in New York in 1919

Ron Price 28 April 2007
In celebration of the 9th Day of Ridván BE 164.
( Last edited by RonPrice; Apr 30, 2007 at 01:00 PM. Reason: To Correct a Spelling Error)
     
   
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