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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Cool, so both Japanese guys who bought HD-DVD players can get their money back.
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SWG has become the resident RSS feed in this thread
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Originally Posted by icruise
Cool, so both Japanese guys who bought HD-DVD players can get their money back.
Don't be silly, this is clearly for all the US citizens and service people working over there. It's never been proven that any Japanese bought HD-DVD players.
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Originally Posted by Shaddim
Don't be silly, this is clearly for all the US citizens and service people working over there. It's never been proven that any Japanese bought HD-DVD players.
Touché
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Sony will be releasing Blu-ray Profile 1.1 players this summer.
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Sony will be introducing two new Blu-ray Disc Players. One the first week of July 2008, Model# BDP-S350, which passes all high bit advanced audio codecs (like the Panasonic DMP-BD30) to an outboard decorder (Pre-Amp or Receiver) and will be Profile 1.1. The other player, coming out the first week of August 2008, the BDP-S550, will incorperate all the high bit advanced audio codec decoders in the player and will also be Profile 1.1. Both are HDMI 1.3a, catagory 2 compliant (output). Load times are faster. Both will play CD's, but not SACD.
The tentative price points will be:
Sony BDP-S350 $ 349.99
Sony BDP-S550 $ 449.99
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However, these players will be Profile 2.0 ready:
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Sony Unveils 2 BD Players, 21 Bravia LCD TVs - 2/26/2008 6:11:00 AM - TWICE
The new Blu-ray Disc players include the BDP-S350 (retailing this summer for around $400), which will ship with the ability to play back Bonus View (picture-in-picture) running commentary tracks and will be BD Live ready, meaning a forthcoming optional firmware update will allow the players to connect to the Internet to take advantage of Web-enabled extras currently being produced as bonus content for future Blu-ray Disc releases.
To carry out the capability, the players will include a built-in Ethernet port for connectivity, and external USB port for local storage. Other features will include 1080/60p and 24p True Cinema resolution output, 7.1-channel Dolby True HD and Dolby Digital Plus surround sound decoding and bit-stream output, as well as dts-HD high resolution audio and Master Audio bit-stream output.
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Those specs are good enough for me, but I'd like to see much lower street pricing.
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Originally Posted by Eug
To carry out the capability, the players will include a built-in Ethernet port for connectivity, and external USB port for local storage
LAME. How hard is it to put in an internal 40-60 GB HD?
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Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa
LAME. How hard is it to put in an internal 40-60 GB HD?
Not hard, but it costs money. And you might need extra cooling.
Plus, not everyone wants and needs this, so I think it's good they make it optional.
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Still, they could have included the necessary 1gb of storage required for spec 2.0 by just throwing in some flash memory. It's cheaper than even a 40 gig hard drive and requires no cooling.
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I agree. If it's necesasary for 2.0 to work, yes, 1GB should be included.
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Originally Posted by Chongo
get a PS3
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Connect a GAME MACHINE to an uber home theater? NEVER!
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Uh, Chongo, it's called sarcasm, dude.
(read a few pages back)
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Originally Posted by starman
Uh, Chongo, it's called sarcasm, dude.
(read a few pages back)
sorry, I forgot the , or is it the
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Originally Posted by Chongo
sorry, I forgot the , or is it the
No, you didn't forget it, you just did not GET it.
Why else post a link
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Originally Posted by turtle777
I agree. If it's necesasary for 2.0 to work, yes, 1GB should be included.
I agree, but considering 1 GB flash drives cost $10 now, I can accept that.
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Originally Posted by starman
*gasp!*
Connect a GAME MACHINE to an uber home theater? NEVER!
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I don't understand why you want to push the PS3 so much. Some people just don't want it. Why is that a problem?
Some people may want audio output options (both in hardware and format). Some people may want to use their universal remotes with their primary playback system. Why the hostility?
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Originally Posted by jokell82
I don't understand why you want to push the PS3 so much. Some people just don't want it. Why is that a problem?
Some people may want audio output options (both in hardware and format).
Cuz the same people have no problem with an xbox 360 and HD-DVD add on monstrosity and it has even worse audio support.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Cuz the same people have no problem with an xbox 360 and HD-DVD add on monstrosity and it has even worse audio support.
I don't remember seeing anyone ever recommend the 360 add on as a good HD DVD player.
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Originally Posted by jokell82
I don't remember seeing anyone ever recommend the 360 add on as a good HD DVD player.
Really? I remember lots of people (including Eug) recommending it. They may not have said it was the best out there, but did say that it was good.
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Originally Posted by icruise
They may not have said it was the best out there, but did say that it was good.
It obviously wasn't good enough
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Originally Posted by icruise
Really? I remember lots of people (including Eug) recommending it. They may not have said it was the best out there, but did say that it was good.
I remember people recommending it as a cheap way to get HD if you already had a 360. But if you didn't the HD-A2 was the favorite to recommend (followed by the A3 with the two movies in the box).
The PS3 used to be the cheapest Blu-Ray player available, and it's upgradeability made it an obvious choice. Now, however, other players are cheaper (though not necessarily better), so it can't just be the default choice anymore. Some people want other things out of their player that the PS3 doesn't offer. I don't see the reason to dismiss these things offhand now that the Blu-Ray player market is starting to mature.
And as time goes on, the PS3 will only look worse as a Blu-Ray player as other players drop in price and add features.
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Originally Posted by jokell82
I don't understand why you want to push the PS3 so much. Some people just don't want it. Why is that a problem?
Some people may want audio output options (both in hardware and format). Some people may want to use their universal remotes with their primary playback system. Why the hostility?
OMG l2lightenup.
1) I wasn't pushing it.
2) I was referencing something a few pages back.
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Originally Posted by jokell82
I don't remember seeing anyone ever recommend the 360 add on as a good HD DVD player.
Dare we count the number of posts by Eug pushing that clunker?
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Originally Posted by starman
*gasp!*
Connect a GAME MACHINE to an uber home theater? NEVER!
I own one, it's in the family/game room attached to my LCD and it works very well there. It simply isn't the right product for my HT, for reasons I explained earlier.
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Why are Blu-Ray players still around $300? I woulda figured that after Blu-Ray won the race that the prices would drop under $200.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
Why are Blu-Ray players still around $300? I woulda figured that after Blu-Ray won the race that the prices would drop under $200.
Why would it get CHEAPER when they have no competition? HD-DVD wasn't making it more expensive.
And the reason being because of costs. HD-DVD lost an assload of money on each player sold.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
Why are Blu-Ray players still around $300? I woulda figured that after Blu-Ray won the race that the prices would drop under $200.
It's been what, 2 weeks?
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I'm sure this will be used as reasoning to prove SONY is teh evil
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
Dare we count the number of posts by Eug pushing that clunker?
That would probably be zero IIRC. I don't like consoles for players, and wouldn't recommend one to any non-geek either.
I just got one because it was the cheapest one at the time (and I already had the 360).
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Originally Posted by Eug
I agree, but considering 1 GB flash drives cost $10 now, I can accept that.
I just hope they don't make it a custom device that costs 50 bux or something.
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That would probably be zero IIRC. I don't like consoles for players, and wouldn't recommend one to any non-geek either.
I just got one because it was the cheapest one at the time (and I already had the 360).
How's this for pushing the 360 HD DVD angle...
Canadians can get the 360 HD DVD for $39.99 at The Source online now. It still qualifies for the free movies, if you buy by the end of tomorrow.
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I might even buy one for that price.
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40 bucks?
Just having a slightly quieter DVD player is worth that much.
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I dunno, the way I look at it, in 5 years when I replace my XBOX 360 with a PS4 or XBOX 1080 or Nintendo Wang, I'll have to drag that damn thing out to watch the few HD-DVD movies I have. Not worth it in the long run, IMO.
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I could put a Nintendo sticker on it and pretend its a Wii.
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Xbox 360 Power Supply Platform almost seems too fitting.
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Actually looks like a really good bookend!
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Was the Xbox HD-DVD add-on usable on PCs for data purposes?
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Originally Posted by sek929
Actually looks like a really good bookend!
For me to poop on.
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Originally Posted by exca1ibur
See? It's an excellent value! It does so many things, whether you want them or not.
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Was the Xbox HD-DVD add-on usable on PCs for data purposes?
Yes. Macs too.
Except you can't burn anything with it, so I don't know what'd you'd do with it on a computer, unless you're running PowerDVD on a Windows machine. And you can browse HD DVDs on Leopard... but not play them unless they have no DRM and use H.264. It plays DVDs just fine though.
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Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES
"Shortly afterwards, the New York Times reported Viacom executives with knowledge of the deals said Paramount and DreamWorks would get a combined $150 million in financial incentives for their commitment to HD DVD."
Same rumours as posted before. ie. No new info. If you're going to believe those rumours, you may as well believe the $400 million rumours for Warner's buyoff.
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Originally Posted by Eug
Same rumours as posted before. ie. No new info. If you're going to believe those rumours, you may as well believe the $400 million rumours for Warner's buyoff.
Doesn't sound like much of a "rumor" when the company itself says: "As you know, we have been well-compensated for our support. It really is in their court at this point to really declare what the next step will be."
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Originally Posted by TETENAL
The strange part is Sony is including the USB flash thingy with the 550. So, it's still "optional" and requires USB, but they give it to you in the box anyway. Why not just build it in (which would actually be cheaper)? Or maybe they only want to put one USB jack on the thing, and having this as a plug-in device allows you to remove it to add a bigger one later. Personally, I'd just want the 1 GB built-in, with another USB port empty. Certainly the extra $100 for the price of the higher end model justifies that.
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Doesn't sound like much of a "rumor" when the company itself says: "As you know, we have been well-compensated for our support. It really is in their court at this point to really declare what the next step will be."
Indeed. I'm sure that ALL the major studios were paid off at some point. Remember Disney's refusal to deny they got an incentive deal? That's the idea of these exclusivity deals after all.
However, it's not as if he said "We got paid $154.324252 million" for their exclusivity.
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Originally Posted by Eug
Indeed. I fully believe that basically ALL the major studios were paid off at some point.
Fine. Lets say it is old news but for some reason you still call a direct admission from the head honcho a "rumor".
But out of interest... where did someone else post that direct quote admitting the pay off?
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Originally Posted by icruise
It's been what, 2 weeks?
Samsung began shipping them over 2 years ago, followed shortly by the PS3. I just figured given how everyone is clamoring about how well Blu-Ray is doing, that'd it be a lot cheaper.
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