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TETENAL · Oct 25, 2004, 11:49 AM

iEmulator is a fast, flexible, G3, G4 & G5 compatible PC Emulator for Power Macintosh Computers running OS X.

iEmulator will be made available in November, 2004.

For more info and screenshots go here:

http://www.iemulator.com/

Zoom_zoom · Oct 25, 2004, 12:00 PM

Looks pretty cool, it would be interesting to see what it is like when compared to VPC!

d4nth3m4n · Oct 25, 2004, 12:02 PM

i just want to be able to play counter strike on my parents g5.

is that so much to ask?

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
i just want to be able to play counter strike on my parents g5.

is that so much to ask?

Yep. That thing better support the GPU natively at 200% of original speed.

-t

d4nth3m4n · Oct 25, 2004, 12:11 PM

Originally posted by turtle777:
Yep. That thing better support the GPU natively at 200% of original speed.

-t

i just want to see it happen, and i dont think its so unreasonable.

counter strike aint really that demanding.

Eriamjh · Oct 25, 2004, 12:12 PM

Shouldn't that be called "Cherry Emulator"?

turtle777 · Oct 25, 2004, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
i just want to see it happen...

who doesn't ?

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
...and i dont think its so unreasonable.

I'm not sure about that.

-t

GoGoReggieXPowars · Oct 25, 2004, 12:21 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
i just want to be able to play counter strike on my parents g5.
is that so much to ask?

Yes.

legacyb4 · Oct 25, 2004, 12:28 PM

Will be interesting to see what the pricing, etc. will be.

I manage several Linux servers remotely and it would be nice to have a test environment on hand for development/testing purposes without having to keep a cheap PC running for that purpose.

the_glassman · Oct 25, 2004, 12:35 PM

Vaporware?

olePigeon · Oct 25, 2004, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
i just want to be able to play counter strike on my parents g5.

is that so much to ask?

When the CEO of Valve really, really hates Macs, yes.

alligator · Oct 25, 2004, 05:19 PM

It has a photo of a 1.5 GHz machine running a PC window at an effective 500 MHz spec. This is interesting, but not much faster than VPC. My 1.3 GHz G4 can run XP as if it were a 266 MHz machine. A bump to 500 MHz won't mean a whole lot.

IanChar · Oct 25, 2004, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
When the CEO of Valve really, really hates Macs, yes.

So thats the reason theres no Half Life on mac? Intresting

milhous · Oct 25, 2004, 05:54 PM

half-life was supposed to come to the mac a long time ago, but was killed for various reasons by either activision or sierra (one of those game houses). it was also known that the proposed half-life for mac was going to be incompatible with its pc counterpart, so you could not play it online with the other half-life users who were running it on windows. search google and you'll find several articles about it.

theolein · Oct 25, 2004, 06:02 PM

Originally posted by milhous:
half-life was supposed to come to the mac a long time ago, but was killed for various reasons by either activision or sierra (one of those game houses). it was also known that the proposed half-life for mac was going to be incompatible with its pc counterpart, so you could not play it online with the other half-life users who were running it on windows. search google and you'll find several articles about it.

Hmmm, now where have I seen that before? *cough*Homeworld2*cough*

the_glassman · Oct 25, 2004, 08:00 PM

This definitely looks fake to me. Looks at all the supposed screen grabs. All the windows are active.

juanvaldes · Oct 25, 2004, 08:11 PM

shift-apple-4 (then hit space bar)

but I do agree, this so looks like a joke about CheeryPC or whatever.

itistoday · Oct 25, 2004, 08:15 PM

I dunno, I don't see why anyone would want to make a fake about this. It seems reasonably legit. Why would they specify a release date that's so soon then?

TETENAL · Nov 29, 2004, 10:07 AM

It's available now.

It's apparently based on the open source Qemu.

Jens Peter · Nov 29, 2004, 10:47 AM

Wow - the videos are really impressive!

You can play Solitare without delay!

And WordPad haven't got delay either! WOW!

talk about an impressive app!

Guess I still have to keep my dell-box around..

Axo1ot1 · Nov 29, 2004, 11:21 AM

is it free?

starman · Nov 29, 2004, 01:13 PM

$23.95

I'm not going to pull the trigger on this until I see something better than Solitare running on it.

Mike

scaught · Nov 29, 2004, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by juanvaldes:
shift-apple-4 (then hit space bar)

ooh. fancy. new trick.

CharlesS · Nov 29, 2004, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by TETENAL:
It's available now.

It's apparently based on the open source Qemu.

Did they add any extra functionality that's useful? An easy to use front-end or something? Or is this basically a repackaged QEMU?

olePigeon · Nov 29, 2004, 05:00 PM

They have the pictures right. What are those, 386s?

TETENAL · Nov 29, 2004, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Did they add any extra functionality that's useful? An easy to use front-end or something? Or is this basically a repackaged QEMU?

Qemu doesn't have a GUI. I couldn't get it to run (permission error or something). If iEmulator makes this double-click runnable it might be worth some money. There is also a GUI frontend called QemuX which is free. Maybe if you're interested try that one first.

CharlesS · 05:45 PM

Originally posted by TETENAL:
Qemu doesn't have a GUI. I couldn't get it to run (permission error or something). If iEmulator makes this double-click runnable it might be worth some money. There is also a GUI frontend called QemuX which is free. Maybe if you're interested try that one first.

I realize QEMU doesn't have a GUI. I was simply asking if that was the main enhancement that this program offers. If it has a nice GUI, it's a legitimate enhancement. I'm just curious.

The thing that makes me wonder about this one is the performance claims. All reports I've seen so far have said that QEMU was a bit slower than VPC, not faster. And their claims - 1.4 GHz integer and 3.2 GHz floating-point on a G5?! - makes me wonder if this is an entirely new emulator or a CherryOS-type scam.

edit: The other thing that bothers me is that QEMU is, by the authors' admission, a pre-release program and not really ready for general use yet. If iEmulator is basically a repackaged QEMU, then they are doing their customers a disservice by not telling them that they are selling them what is basically alpha software.

Cubeoid · Nov 29, 2004, 06:04 PM

Originally posted by starman:
$23.95

I'm not going to pull the trigger on this until I see something better than Solitare running on it.

Mike

You obviously didn't see the DOS video

MilkmanDan · Nov 30, 2004, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by Jens Peter:
Wow - the videos are really impressive!

You can play Solitare without delay!
And WordPad haven't got delay either! WOW!

talk about an impressive app!

Guess I still have to keep my dell-box around..

Wow, and to think, I can now play the games I've always longed to play. Like Solitare. Or not.

olePigeon · Nov 30, 2004, 12:33 PM

I'd use it only to play one game, Darklands. And that's it.

the_glassman · Nov 30, 2004, 02:36 PM

Wow, looks pretty cool. Something that's not Vaporware and could be used to run Windows cheaply if needed! It does look pretty quick, and it's cheap I may just purchase it to try it out. So long VPC!

cybermat · Dec 5, 2004, 06:40 AM

Man, the two videos are definitely a joke. Benchmarking software on DOS? Productivity application using Wordpad? It looked pretty good until I watched the two videos. Does anyone know if the software supports video hardware acceleration?

msuper69 · Dec 5, 2004, 11:10 AM

This smells.

Why don't they give a real demo of it running a demanding application. Wordpad and solitaire? Those previews don't mean squat.

Great performance at such a low price? If it was so good, they would charge a lot more for it. This thing stinks like a viagara/cheap mortgage/rolex watch spam email.

storer · Dec 5, 2004, 11:30 AM

Originally posted by msuper69:
This smells.

Why don't they give a real demo of it running a demanding application. Wordpad and solitaire? Those previews don't mean squat.

Great performance at such a low price? If it was so good, they would charge a lot more for it. This thing stinks like a viagara/cheap mortgage/rolex watch spam email.

Don't be so negative...

It could just be perfectly good.

Super Nova · Dec 5, 2004, 01:02 PM

Can this emu only run standard programs like solitaire and wordpad? Cause if that's it it's pretty lame, but I am confused on whether or not you can play PC games on a mac, like Vice City (I sadly don't have PS2

) or whatever....

Plus, where the heck do you dowload it.....

SuperNova

brapper · Dec 5, 2004, 01:36 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:
Can this emu only run standard programs like solitaire and wordpad? Cause if that's it it's pretty lame, but I am confused on whether or not you can play PC games on a mac, like Vice City (I sadly don't have PS2 ) or whatever....

Plus, where the heck do you dowload it.....

SuperNova

I guarantee you can't play Vice City anywhere near a comfortable speed.
I doubt you could even get it to launch.

Super Nova · Dec 5, 2004, 02:02 PM

so then what's the point....

the_glassman · Dec 5, 2004, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:
so then what's the point....

If you can make a better emulator that can do it, go for it. Microsofts own emulator can't play games well. The point is for people who need to use Windows programs every so often.

Super Nova · Dec 5, 2004, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
The point is for people who need to use Windows programs every so often.

What windows programs would you need to use?

SuperNova

King Bob On The Cob · Dec 5, 2004, 05:29 PM

look around the forum for a program called qConfig.
It's a free version of this program more or less. (A GUI frontend for QEMU)

wowok1234 · Dec 5, 2004, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:
What windows programs would you need to use?

SuperNova

Microsoft Visio, any number of mapping programs such as Microsoft Streets and Trips, are among the programs that people use on Virtual PC that have no good Mac equivalent yet.

The Oracle · Dec 5, 2004, 11:01 PM

TETENAL is a distorter in the polwar lounge. Why would you believe what he posts in the regular lounge?

york28 · Dec 6, 2004, 05:43 AM

Originally posted by TETENAL:
Qemu doesn't have a GUI. I couldn't get it to run (permission error or something). If iEmulator makes this double-click runnable it might be worth some money. There is also a GUI frontend called QemuX which is free. Maybe if you're interested try that one first.

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the_glassman · Dec 6, 2004, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:
What windows programs would you need to use?

SuperNova

Plenty. Visual Studio, IE for Windows, Windows only software for school , etc...

Jens Peter · Dec 6, 2004, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
Plenty. Visual Studio, IE for Windows, Windows only software for school , etc...

Have you tried running Visual Studio in VPC ? I can only guess that it would be a pain, I don't know anyone who tried...

I also use VS for schoolprojects, thats why I bougt a Dell instead of a powerbook last year.

Sven G · Dec 7, 2004, 12:44 PM

QemuX looks promising, anyway: it should soon be at version 0.14, with a new interface, according to the developer.

nooon · Dec 7, 2004, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Super Nova:
What windows programs would you need to use?

SuperNova

3DSMax

l008com · Jan 25, 2005, 04:55 AM

I've tried it. Speed is horribly slow. You click buttons repeatedly and you have to wait and wait for something to happen. VPC Flies in comparison to it. This software runs like VPC did two or three versions ago, when you would watch new windows open up, drawn slooooowly line at a time. I used it first. Then I went to its web site, and watched the demo videos. I was shocked, their videos look like they are using an actual pc. The real speeds are so slow you'll think your running vpc3 on a 601. I was using windows 2000, just as they do in the demos. I'm on a dual 1.8G5, 1.25 GB of ram, 384 of which was given to windows. This program is a scam, its a half assed gui wrapped around an unfinished X86 emulator designed to trick people into sending them money. Watch out.

the_glassman · May 31, 2005, 04:28 PM

It's just been updated. Any other reviews?