[johnnylundy]

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: johnnylundy ]

[xi_hyperon]

It seems no one else has problems moving items to the trash any longer... except me. I don't know if I can even empty the trash, because I can't even move stuff to the trash. I always get the "not sufficient priveleges" shite.

Yes, I've tried in root, and I know that I can get delete stuff by going by to 9 (which is what I currently do). This sucks. Overall I am absolutely happy with 10.1, but this little problem really sticks in my craw...

[moki]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
<STRONG>It seems no one else has problems moving items to the trash any longer... except me. I don't know if I can even empty the trash, because I can't even move stuff to the trash. I always get the "not sufficient priveleges" shite.
</STRONG>

Perhaps this will help you?

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...11007113756418

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by moki:
<STRONG>

Perhaps this will help you?

http://www.macosxhints.com/article.p...11007113756418</STRONG>

Thanks, moki, but I either did it incorrectly or it didn't work... I have to confess that I am not knowledgeable about UNIX...

[Cadman]

The easy way to enable the root user is by

1) loading up netinfo manager
2) Unlocking it so you can makes changes
3) Then go to Domian/Security /Enable Root User....

This might solve you problem but then It didn't work for me... I accidently moved internet explorer out of my 'applications' folder and into my hard disk... In OS9 I would have just popped it back but OSX started copying it back leaving the rougue application loose in my hard disk. I tried to delete it buut it said it was owned by the 'root' so it couldn't be done!!! ARGH!! I maganed to delete it by booting up in OS9 but this is a bit of a half arsed way of doing it....

[moki]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
<STRONG>

Thanks, moki, but I either did it incorrectly or it didn't work... I have to confess that I am not knowledgeable about UNIX...</STRONG>

Well, it is definitely a permissions problem. Try these four separate commands (each will take a bit, they are searching all of your attached drives):

sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs rm -rf
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs rm -fr

...then log out and back in again. This will delete all of your trashes. When they are recreated, the permissions should be set properly.

If THIS doesn't work, I'd be shocked

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: moki ]

[Cadman]

Originally posted by moki:
<STRONG>

Well, it is definitely a permissions problem. Try these four separate commands (each will take a bit, they are searching all of your attached drives):

sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs rm -rf
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs rm -fr

...then log out and back in again. This will delete all of your trashes. When they are recreated, the permissions should be set properly.

If THIS doesn't work, I'd be shocked

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: moki ]</STRONG>

Surely, I hope to god, we haven't got to rely on code like this just to delete something. Apple have created a monster!

[moki]

Originally posted by Cadman:
<STRONG>

Surely, I hope to god, we haven't got to rely on code like this just to delete something. Apple have created a monster!</STRONG>

It's a work-around for a bug, which we all agree Apple needs to fix. The difference between OS X and OS 9 is that you have a way to work around problems like this until they are fixed by Apple.

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by moki:
<STRONG>

Well, it is definitely a permissions problem. Try these four separate commands (each will take a bit, they are searching all of your attached drives):

sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trash" -type d -print | xargs rm -rf
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs chflags -R nouchg
sudo find / -name ".Trashes" -type d -print | xargs rm -fr

...then log out and back in again. This will delete all of your trashes. When they are recreated, the permissions should be set properly.

If THIS doesn't work, I'd be shocked

[ 10-10-2001: Message edited by: moki ]</STRONG>

moki-

Well, incredibly perhaps, this didn't work either. I will be the first to admit that UNIX ignorance on my part could actually be the culprit, but here is what I did:

I enabled root, copied and pasted the lines directlly from the above post, and listened to my PBG4 hard drive chug along. Soon thereafter, I watched as Terminal spit out various "permission denied" and "no such file or directory" replies. Okay. I went to the next step anyway. Logging out and logging back in, I tried to move items to the trash, only to find myself staring once more at the dreaded "priveleges" message. OS 9, if nothing else, is great at getting rid of trash...

Any further suggestions appreciated...

[moki]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
<STRONG>
Any further suggestions appreciated... </STRONG>

bah! Ok! try this:

sudo chown -R loginname ~

...where loginname is your login name (eg: andrew)

[xi_hyperon]

Originally posted by moki:
<STRONG>

bah! Ok! try this:

sudo chown -R loginname ~

...where loginname is your login name (eg: andrew)</STRONG>

here's what I got...

usage: chown [-R [-H | -L | -P]] [-fh] [owner][:group] file ...

[xi_hyperon]

wait! The last one I left the ~ out when I copied... this time I copied and pasted the entire line... will re- login and see what happens...

[xi_hyperon]

woooohooooooo!!!!!!

Thanks moki, I can now discard my PreTrash folder and actually move everything to the trash, at will! I will buy many copies of Snapz Pro X, one for every member of my family...

[moki]

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
<STRONG>woooohooooooo!!!!!!

Thanks moki, I can now discard my PreTrash folder and actually move everything to the trash, at will! I will buy many copies of Snapz Pro X, one for every member of my family...</STRONG>

yay! Glad to help...

[darcybaston]

This always happens to me when I have an item in the trash that is locked. Go in the trash and do an info on the items in there and see if any have the good ol' locked checkbox on. For me the permission thing is often bogus, because I can empty the trash myself through Unix without any permission complaints. Something to do with having items in your trash from mounted disk images and the image is no longer mounted and...not quite sure yet.

Or you can try this, which is what I do when mine acts up in 10.0.4:

-Start terminal, which will open a shell in your $home (/users/loginname/) directory.

-type: ls -al and make sure you see a .Trash folder. (scroll up if this zip by too much)


-get into that folder with the command: cd .Trash

-type: ls -al again and see if there's anything in there.

-If so, type: rm -dR * (this will delete everything in the .trash folder, but make sure you're in THERE and nowhere else, because that rm command will delete all contents including folders and their contents recursively without complaint.)

I like the previous posts 'find' approach better because it does ALL the trashes, but I'm not so good at that piping stuff heh. Hope this helps!

[Cadman]

Originally posted by moki:
<STRONG>

It's a work-around for a bug, which we all agree Apple needs to fix. The difference between OS X and OS 9 is that you have a way to work around problems like this until they are fixed by Apple.</STRONG>

Ahhh, Sooner rather than later I hope because I'm just a measley designer. Haven't got a clue when it comes to this coding stuff!!

[seb2]

i don't know whether that's been mentioned before but has anybody noticed that apple removed an animation in 10.1?

remember, in 10.0.x, when you had minimized windows in the dock and hid the application the windows belonged to, the icons in the dock would "fly" behind the application's icon.
now, they just disappear.

though i could think of worse things to happen to a new version of an os, i kind of liked that gimmick.

[Lorin Rivers]

Originally posted by vmpaul:
<STRONG>

Which type of Logitech mouse do you have?

I'm thinking of getting the optical cordless model and am wondering if it's supported in OS X.</STRONG>

Logitech drools, Kensington rules. Logitech treats customers with contempt, doesn't have OS X drivers, and pretty much has earned my undying hate.

Kensington, on the other hand, has supported Mac OS X for quite a while, actually answers email, and more.

[Subzero Diesel949]

Raves:

Pretty much everything that has been said. Noticeable speed increase on Rev A iBook.

Rants:

1. Classic support still sucks.
2. Where's the graphic acceleration support for iBook? Games such as Bugdom or Nanosaur can't be played in Classic.
3. You cannot change the date/time format in the clock menu extra when viewed as a icon.
4. Bouncing attention icon eats up quite a bit of CPU.
5. IE 5.1 Final is still a piece of crap. Bring on OW 4.1!!!! With Java 2 built into X you'd think M$ engineers would take advantage of it. Oh well, maybe after IE 7 on the PeeCees.

[chromos]

All right, everyone has covered my gripes already, so I'll give some pleasant surprises:

1) The zoom-fade screensaver now seems to do panning in addition to center-on zooms, depending on the orientation of the jpeg. I.e., it will pan *down* a portrait-oriented picture.
2) Speech recognition works *really well* on my Pismo 400. Being able to switch between apps by voice command, and adding voice commands to menu commands (those with keyboard shortcuts), is really neat. Now they just have to work on speech synthesis....
3) Sleeping doesn't seem to eat up as much battery power as before: 13 hours while sleeping only took the battery from 100% to 94%. However, battery life while USING the computer is another matter...
4) Image Capture works with my Canon PowerShot S10 (OS 9.1 broke my Canon software.)
5) Full keyboard control is great.
6) Cyrillic scripts are back and cyrillic fonts look much better in OmniWeb.
7) I'm sure there's much more I'm forgetting....

[kthomas]

Overall, I am very happy with OS X 10.1:
* SLEEP... at last (on my G4 500/MP)
* DVD playback..
* Wacom support... although a very crappy implementation i.m.h.o (Wacom..
have a look at Application Switching Menu.. very nice job, also added a
preference-panel in the system-prefs)
* SAMBA.. although I havent had the chance yet to try it..

I noticed one problem though.. sometimes renaming an application (Used to do
that many times under OS 7..9) makes it unusable.. I.E. when I rename
"Filemaker" to "Filemaker 5.5" it refuses to start up. I realy would like
apple to fix that.. because that's one of the (many) things that made Apple
superior to Wintel - don't have to think about consequences, just do as you
like -

Sebastiaan

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally posted by thajeztah:
<STRONG>* SAMBA.. although I havent had the chance yet to try it..</STRONG>

Perhaps you should before praising it too much. I had to resort to installing Sharity (which you should anyway) to get it even to connect.

The implementation is more of a hack than anything else. With Sharity you can browse your windows-network and it generally just works, as opposed to Apple's "type-in-hostname-slash-share-oops-remember-that-it-can't-have-spaces-nor-can-you-use-the-ip-adress
-oh-and-did-we-forget-to-write-error-messages-that-mean-anything-oh-well-they-probably-won't-notice-that-
we'll-give-them-just-one-message-no-matter-what-happens" implementation...

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