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Windows: New! Now with over 1000% more bugs than the other guy!
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olePigeon
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Dec 15, 2004, 11:40 PM
 
http://www.wired.com/news/linux/0,1411,66022,00.html

The report, set to be released on Tuesday, states that the 2.6 Linux production kernel, shipped with software from Red Hat, Novell and other major Linux software vendors, contains 985 bugs in 5.7 million lines of code, well below the industry average for commercial enterprise software. Windows XP, by comparison, contains about 40 million lines of code, with new bugs found on a frequent basis.

Commercial software typically has 20 to 30 bugs for every 1,000 lines of code, according to Carnegie Mellon University's CyLab Sustainable Computing Consortium. This would be equivalent to 114,000 to 171,000 bugs in 5.7 million lines of code.
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Dec 15, 2004, 11:45 PM
 
I blame the coders.
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 12:01 AM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
contains 985 bugs in 5.7 million lines of code
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Dec 16, 2004, 03:47 AM
 
Originally posted by olePigeon:
http://www.wired.com/news/linux/0,1411,66022,00.html

The report, set to be released on Tuesday, states that the 2.6 Linux production kernel, shipped with software from Red Hat, Novell and other major Linux software vendors, contains 985 bugs in 5.7 million lines of code, well below the industry average for commercial enterprise software. Windows XP, by comparison, contains about 40 million lines of code, with new bugs found on a frequent basis.

Commercial software typically has 20 to 30 bugs for every 1,000 lines of code, according to Carnegie Mellon University's CyLab Sustainable Computing Consortium. This would be equivalent to 114,000 to 171,000 bugs in 5.7 million lines of code.

With software update running again (10.3.7), I wonder what the number of bugs for OSX?
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Dec 16, 2004, 04:01 AM
 
Originally posted by drmcnutt:
With software update running again (10.3.7), I wonder what the number of bugs for OSX?
I'd say the Finder alone has 171,000 bugs.
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Dec 16, 2004, 04:04 AM
 
Originally posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO:
I'd say the Finder alone has 171,000 bugs.
That's odd... the calculator says it has 171,000.0014 bugs...
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 04:16 AM
 
Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
I blame the coders.
Please don't. Blame the executives giving the orders.

On a side note, am I the only one who didn't see a single stat on how many bugs are in Windows? I saw impressive stats on Linux's kernal, but nothing on Windows.
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Dec 16, 2004, 05:18 AM
 
Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
I blame the coders.
Blame the deadlines.
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 07:17 AM
 
Originally posted by RGB:
That's odd... the calculator says it has 171,000.0014 bugs...
That's such a nerdy joke.

But it raised a half-smile, I'll admit
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 07:51 AM
 
Originally posted by macintologist:
Blame the deadlines.
blame the company, their management is supposed to manage the schedules
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 10:35 AM
 
Originally posted by RGB:
That's odd... the calculator says it has 171,000.0014 bugs...
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 01:31 PM
 
I prefer software that has 0 bugs.
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 01:41 PM
 
Originally posted by ManOfSteal:
I blame the coders.
I blame society and bad schools.
     
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Originally posted by djohnson:
I prefer software that has 0 bugs.
I prefer my mansion, Ferarri, swimming pool, and tropical island. Oh wait, those don't exist either.
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 02:06 PM
 
Not surprised. Obviously this is one of the benefits of community-based, open source development.
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 02:13 PM
 
Originally posted by CD Hanks:
Please don't. Blame the executives giving the orders.

blame Bush
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 04:54 PM
 
Originally posted by joelcpa:
blame Bush
Blame Canada?
     
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Dec 16, 2004, 04:59 PM
 
I blame the terrorists and and those no-good pinko commies, bad parenting, and rock and roll.
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Dec 16, 2004, 10:56 PM
 
Originally posted by Skip Breakfast:
I blame the terrorists and and those no-good pinko commies, bad parenting, and rock and roll...
...and guns.
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Dec 16, 2004, 11:09 PM
 
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Dec 17, 2004, 04:29 AM
 
Originally posted by CD Hanks:
On a side note, am I the only one who didn't see a single stat on how many bugs are in Windows? I saw impressive stats on Linux's kernal, but nothing on Windows.
That's what i was thinking. It said "Windows XP, by comparison, contains about 40 million lines of code, with new bugs found on a frequent basis".

That sounds pretty good to me. With 40 million lines of code(!) it's quite a feat that all that code works together at all.

No stats on MacOS?
     
   
 
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