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MusicalTone · 05:48 PM

Anyone interesting in testing please post screen names here. If you are concerned about privacy (i.e. dont want to disclose you main .mac address on this forum) you can get a free screen name from AOL to use for this purpose. www.aol.com

http://my.screenname.aol.com/_cqr/lo...triedAimAuth=y

Steb Mad · Jun 24, 2003, 01:01 PM

Hi,

You can IM me at 'smarterchild'

I like to ask lot of questions

Brien · Jun 24, 2003, 01:09 PM

LOL!

MusicalTone · Jun 24, 2003, 01:43 PM

p.,s. no bots! and that means you smarterchild!

MusicalTone · 05:21 AM

OK, first voice conversation with somone in Mexico (im In Spain). Actually reall good sound qaulity. Could save a lot on long distance phone costs. Anyone else want to test, screen name is:

baloneyphone {edit: oops accidentally deleted it!}

MusicalTone · Jun 24, 2003, 04:26 PM

and now with someone in Estonia. He: 12" PB. Me: 15". We just used the internal mics. Great sound quality and full duplex. This is gonna save me a lota cash for long distance calls!

Since EBCDIC · Jun 24, 2003, 07:21 PM

One friend, in Boston, has a PowerMac which comes without a mic (and the company never bought USB mics for them). So he's a no-go.

Dad, across the bay in Alameda, is having trouble updating his powerbook to 10.2.6, so he's a no-go until I go over and see what's going on.

Anyone want to test; I see the previous poster's name is edited out. Try SF Geek and see if I'm in.

MaxPower2k3 · Jun 24, 2003, 07:36 PM

MaxPowers2k

i can send you TV, not live video (no camera).. i'll probably be at the computer, but if i don't respond i'll be back soon.

silverghost · Jun 24, 2003, 08:00 PM

Wow I love this thing(vid chat) but it seems like i've got sound issues, oh well ill tinker some more.

Hey since ebcdic nice chatting with ya even if my sound was so terrible.

By the way folks my camera is a sony dcr-pc110 and video wise its pretty good.

aloha

rlmorel · Jun 24, 2003, 08:18 PM

I am very impressed. it doesn't work completely perfectly, but it is almost there, and the setup is really plug and play! Voice worked great! Video quality was great but no audio...

Since EBCDIC · Jun 24, 2003, 08:30 PM

Nice chats with silverghost (aloha!) and rlmorel.

Video is great.

Audio seems to cut out strangely. I'm using a Sony DCR-TRV20 digital video camera. Whether I use the internal mic or the one in the camera, when video is running the audio is unreliable.

Without video it was pretty good (with richard). I'm off for a few hours, but I'll be back online to test later, when the family is asleep.

Looking forward to chatting with more of you.

mr100percent · Jun 25, 2003, 12:38 AM

mr100percent

Try getting me when I'm online, I'll be getting the iSight in a few days.

bradr · Jun 25, 2003, 12:58 AM

You can chat me at BradNGizmo (AIM)

Gamoe · Jun 25, 2003, 08:30 AM

CaptainMorales (AIM)

Audio. (No Firewire Video Camera yet!)

typoon · Jun 25, 2003, 09:30 AM

I've tested this a few times yesterday. This new iChat is cool. The audio is Excellent and the video that I did with someone who had an iSight was just as good. This is Pretty amazing. Hopefully they will get it to work with AIM so I can chat with my friends who use that. Even if there is no video.

Since EBCDIC · Jun 25, 2003, 07:49 PM

I was downloading and uploading a bunch of movie files yesterday, while I was testing iChat AV. No wonder it wasn't, umm, wonderful.

I just got back from the Apple Store / Emeryville CA with three iSight cameras (one for each bunch of grandparents). The cameras are very, very nicely done. The one word I'd choose is "impressive" manufacturing. Head and shoulders above the QuickCam or iBot.

Finished a chat with Mr100Percent: he said he could see me blinking. The color is absolutely amazing; much, much better than my Sony DCR-TRV20 (and it doesn't auto-off after three minutes).

I am, amazed. And if you think that's just another dweeb's opinion, remember I wrote a book about Internet videoconferencing on the Macintosh back in 1995.

Paul Derby · 12:44 AM

You can video chat with me at plderby

I have an iSight

dumkwestchun · Jun 26, 2003, 12:04 AM

Wow, this brought my Orange Micro iBot back to life!

Finally!

But under which firewall services do I modify the port settings
to enable the specific port?

Also it -- accounts preference-- only seems to want to use my .mac screen name or a new .mac

I'd prefer to use a different free AIM -- how to change that?

Thanks

cenutrio · Jun 26, 2003, 12:47 PM

Very impress so far (I've talked with people within the States, Argentina, and Spain). Sound quality using my TiPB 400 mic appeared to be pretty good, no sound lag, felt like a phone call. "Negotiating" with Spain was speedy...

I'm seriously considering an iSight to video-chat with my family in Spain. It is a heck of an application! So simple that even my "technologically challenged" parents could use it!

laxthxdude · Jun 26, 2003, 06:17 PM

laxthxdude is my AIM name. Video and audio ready to rock and roll - drop in!

Since EBCDIC · Jun 26, 2003, 07:04 PM

One of the folks with whom I chatted yesterday mentioned that the picture was so clear that he could see me blinking.

Two people with whom I've chatted today have been using iSight cameras (as am I) but their images have been somewhat less than sharp.

Is that a function of the bandwidth they've got?

Other than that bit of weirdness, and that the first time I used the iSight the camera's mic was wedged (selecting another source and then selecting the iSight's again seems to have fixed that).

Mmmmmmm. Nice.

mwasisco · Jun 26, 2003, 07:08 PM

get me at AIM: mikewasisko here!

Bzzt!

Sam Venning · Jun 26, 2003, 11:13 PM

I've got a camera. I'm in Australia. Online weekdays during business hours.

[email protected]

Interested in testing iChat AV.

Michaelm8000 · Jun 27, 2003, 01:34 AM

I got an iSight! It rules!

Name: Michaelm8000

Parky · Jun 27, 2003, 06:39 AM

You can contact me at [email protected]

Audio only until the iSight starts shipping in the UK!

Appleman · Jun 27, 2003, 08:40 AM

[email protected]

Only audio because of the 600 MHz limit. I really want that stupid limit out!!!

MHz-myth????

Since EBCDIC · Jun 27, 2003, 01:49 PM

You want that limit out about as much as Apple wants you to purchase new hardware!

And it might just work.

My father and in-laws are using 333 MHz iMacs, and are reasonably happy with them. But now we have a real-world reason to upgrade. I may start trolling eBay to see what >600 MHz machines start to appear; visiting my local computer shops always works too - they usually are desperate to get rid of second-generation hardware.

This might also be the time to move them to iBooks or PowerBooks, to save desk space, about which they're constantly moaning.

I could be feeling Steved, but damn! it's a good day to be a Macintosh user!!!

Appleman · Jun 27, 2003, 02:11 PM

I sold my Ti-book 500 because a friend needed it and I wanted to upgrade to the coming new PowerBook (when o when...).
In the meantime I'm using a second hand iMac DV SE (400MHz), and added RAM to 1024 MB. Quite a nice machine for some browsing etc.
Then they come with this 600 MHz rule. It just feels a shame as the rest runs quite ok actually. But I do understand that they went for quality, I guess.

Since EBCDIC · Jun 27, 2003, 02:19 PM

The argument might be phrased to the rest of us as "we made a 600 MHz lower limit so as to preserve the user experience", and there might be a teeeny bit of truth in it, but it's hard to be open to such a thing when

(1) we know they could have made a postage stamp-sized window for slower machines

(2) we know Apple makes it's money on hardware sales

But of course that's always its been, with all hardware companies. I choose to stay near the bleeding edge, others stay far behind, and most find a comfortable spot somewhere in-between.

But that iSight, to borrow words from Jean-Louis Gassee (remember him?), "smells like tomorrow".

Axel · Jun 27, 2003, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by Appleman:
I sold my Ti-book 500 because a friend needed it and I wanted to upgrade to the coming new PowerBook (when o when...).
In the meantime I'm using a second hand iMac DV SE (400MHz), and added RAM to 1024 MB. Quite a nice machine for some browsing etc.
Then they come with this 600 MHz rule. It just feels a shame as the rest runs quite ok actually. But I do understand that they went for quality, I guess.

Anybody knows if the 600 Mhz limit only concerns G3 processors ? Or is a 450 Mhz G4 not fast enough either ? Apple says "600 MHz G3 processor or higher", so maybe there's a chance...

Since EBCDIC · Jun 27, 2003, 05:33 PM

I believe that the software does a brain-damaged test for 600 MHz and doesn't take anything else into account.

mdc · Jun 27, 2003, 06:33 PM

mdcaim - got my iSight today, but noone to test it with. look me up.

spitty27 · Jun 27, 2003, 10:54 PM

AIM: s Pi Tt Y 2 7
sorry, only audio - got a firewire sony dv cam but 400 mhz pismo :-(

Since EBCDIC · Jun 28, 2003, 12:09 AM

I have been having a blast chatting with y'all.

This is old hat for me, having gone through the CU-SeeMe thang in the mid-1990s, but it's just great seeing people videoconference for the very first time.

For those of you just discovering this thread, I may be reached at (AIM) SF Geek. If the kids are going to sleep I'll let you know.

Axel · Jun 28, 2003, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Since EBCDIC:
I believe that the software does a brain-damaged test for 600 MHz and doesn't take anything else into account.

Actually when I installed iChat AV on my desktop G4/450, I could see in the prefs "No camera attached to this computer", just under the view where you're supposed to see what the camera sees. So I guess a 450 Mhz G4 is enough for videoconferencing... Or maybe they made it look like every computer can do video, but when you plug an actual camera an error pops up...
Ancient G3 owners, what do you see in the prefs ?

Appleman · Jun 28, 2003, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Axel:
Ancient G3 owners, what do you see in the prefs ?

Ancient iMac DV SE (DV stands for Digital Video !!!) does not see it,

Axel · Jun 28, 2003, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Appleman:
Ancient iMac DV SE (DV stands for Digital Video !!!) does not see it,

You mean you don't see that part of the pref panel, or you mean iChat doesn't see your camera when you plug it in ?

Axel · Jun 28, 2003, 07:44 AM

Ok I just read in the iChat AV help (translated from french) :
"You can use iChat AV on 600 Mhz or higher G3 computers, and on G4 computers."
So Mhz don't matter on G4s.

Appleman · Jun 28, 2003, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by Axel:
You mean you don't see that part of the pref panel, or you mean iChat doesn't see your camera when you plug it in ?

iChat simply says that video is not supported. (vive la France, Axel!

)

moofman · Jun 28, 2003, 10:30 PM

I can do audio for sure, but I've yet to try video with our camera. I'd love to try though...

SN: PseudoSophism

I need some mac friends... *pouts*

MilkmanDan · 09:51 PM

If anyone wishes to IM me, I just got my iSight today. To get my screen name, go to this link on my homepage.

http://www.gustavus.edu/~jzimmerm/contact/contact.html

There you have it. iSight to the max.

Also, any attractive female Mac techies with iSight, make sure to IM me right away. Actually, anyone I would love to give it a go. Its so darn dull in the Mid-West.

MilkmanDan · Jul 1, 2003, 10:29 PM

I just talked to two people (thanks MacNN). One is Australia, and one in Washington State. Both worked very well off my cable modem connection.

justdelegard · Jul 2, 2003, 12:27 AM

justdelegard = me

Feel free to iChat with me.

Video naturally

MilkmanDan is fun to talk to. So talk to him.

MilkmanDan · Jul 2, 2003, 12:35 AM

Watch out for that Justdelegard guy. i know him personally. He's one crazy man. Watch out, he could sneak up on you and give you an e-weggie. Really. (and I'm still waiting for a attractive female techie to message me)

krove · Jul 2, 2003, 01:23 AM

Heh...now there's a wish. Apparently that new MyiSight.com place that opened up for meeting other iSight users has a 100:1 male:female ratio.

Heh...women techies. Ah the dream.

STH · Jul 2, 2003, 01:53 AM

Could some people please post their line speeds? I'm on a 768down / 128up DSL line and would really like to now whether video works well or not - especially upstream!

Audio works great!

Jordan · Jul 2, 2003, 10:52 AM

This is so unfair!!!

Here I am with a brand new iSight and iChat AV quits unexpectedly as soon as I have clicked the Done button after entering setup information.

I really want to play too!!!

(sniff sniff)

If anyone can help please reply to my thread here.

It can't be this hard, you all seem to be doing this so easily....

Jordan