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Zimphire · Mar 17, 2004, 06:29 PM

the lengths that peolpe will go to deny and avoid reality.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4541605/

"flexitarian?"

You are an omnivore.

John F. Smith · Mar 17, 2004, 06:33 PM

would that make me a flexitarian metrosexual then?

Zimphire · Mar 17, 2004, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by John F. Smith:
would that make me a flexitarian metrosexual then?

More than likely.

Tulkas · Mar 17, 2004, 06:51 PM

Eek she's ugly.

fireside · Mar 17, 2004, 07:08 PM

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Lateralus · Mar 17, 2004, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by fireside:

Agreed.

nredman · Mar 17, 2004, 07:15 PM

'I really like sausage'

*LMAO*

Zimphire · Mar 17, 2004, 07:26 PM

Originally posted by fireside:

Happens in Mozilla too.

It's a MS bug.

Woehrle46 · 11:14 PM

Ridiculous. Anyone who labels themselves a flexitarian needs a good kick to the head.

MindFad · Mar 17, 2004, 09:10 PM

The question mark needs to be outside of the quote in that title. Pffft.

ryju · Mar 17, 2004, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
The question mark needs to be outside of the quote in that title. Pffft.

Isn't sentence-ending punctuation supposed to go INSIDE the quote mark?

I went to the "Salad Bar."

MindFad · Mar 17, 2004, 09:17 PM

In American English, for everything but the question mark unless it's part of the quote. (Maybe one other, too.) British English, no�everything is outside the quotes, unless part of the quote. Rightly so, I say. Makes more sense, IMO. A bigger grammar and syntax nerd is sure to chime in here.

Back to the flexitarians.

olePigeon · Mar 17, 2004, 09:55 PM

I bet she's pro-life and then bombs abortion clinics.

olePigeon · Mar 17, 2004, 09:56 PM

Originally posted by ryju:
Isn't sentence-ending punctuation supposed to go INSIDE the quote mark?

I went to the "Salad Bar."

Yes, so the title is grammatically correct.

MindFad · Mar 17, 2004, 10:04 PM

Question mark outside, mofo.

My school wasn't crazy. I'M NOT CRAZY.

Zimphire · Mar 17, 2004, 10:26 PM

That will teach you for being petty.

Zoom_zoom · Mar 17, 2004, 10:33 PM

So she is a flexitarian, because she eats more vegetables than meats..... righto then
What a stupid name.

MindFad · Mar 17, 2004, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
That will teach you for being petty.

You call it petty, I call it ... yeah, petty. Anyway, I'm still right, so nyah.

dampeoples · Mar 18, 2004, 12:28 AM

Half-assed vegetarians. This is funny, I suppose it's not cool to be a vegetarian anymore, they had to make something new.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 01:25 AM

Originally posted by dampeoples:
Half-assed vegetarians. This is funny, I suppose it's not cool to be a vegetarian anymore, they had to make something new.

What it is is, They have spent a good part of their life acting like they are ABOVE meat eaters (Even though they are born as such) that they don't want to be lumped in with them, even if they eat meat too!

So they come up with a NEW name. This way they can eat meat at the same time and not feel bad about it, while STILL claiming to be superior.

mac-at-kearsarge · Mar 18, 2004, 02:13 AM

WTF!!!!!!!! I know that woman personally! She lives 30 mins from where I;m sitting right now!

She's always been nice to me so I'm not going to do her any physcial harm.

HOWEVER.

Next time I see her, after we greet, I am going to look at here and say "Flexitarian?!?!?" while giving her "THE LOOK".

Since she'll probably be in the Library (That's where I see her most often) I'll give her a hard time buy reading the defintion of 'omnivore' to her.

Oisín · Mar 18, 2004, 03:00 AM

Holy crap!!!

That's not 'flexitarianism' - that's normal, common sense! It's nothing more than what all the experts and yadda-yadda have been telling us for the past 20 years. Jeez!

Oh, and they need to get their facts straight: Soy milk has nothing to do with vegetarianism. Vegetarians (like myself) have nothing agains drinking milk or eating eggs and cheese. I for one couldn't live without it!

People who substitute their dairy products with soy bean-based products are called vegans, MSNBC! Ignoramuses!

wang_himself · Mar 18, 2004, 03:08 AM

umm... are not they no longer vegetarians if they eat meat? Death to MSNBC, death to the article creator and those in it, and death to those who waste more bandwidth on this topic!

Cipher13 · Mar 18, 2004, 03:55 AM

****ing idiots. They should all be killed.

soulhole · Mar 18, 2004, 06:43 AM

Presenting excellent solutions as always.

voodoo · Mar 18, 2004, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
****ing idiots. They should all be killed.

I admire your diplomacy and the way you sqeeze in human rights for all in your solutions

disectamac · Mar 18, 2004, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
the lengths that peolpe will go to deny and avoid reality.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4541605/

"flexitarian?"

You are an omnivore.

This IS all Eve's fault you know.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 09:59 AM

Originally posted by mac-at-kearsarge:
WTF!!!!!!!! I know that woman personally! She lives 30 mins from where I;m sitting right now!

She's always been nice to me so I'm not going to do her any physcial harm.

HOWEVER.

Next time I see her, after we greet, I am going to look at here and say "Flexitarian?!?!?" while giving her "THE LOOK".

Since she'll probably be in the Library (That's where I see her most often) I'll give her a hard time buy reading the defintion of 'omnivore' to her.

Please do!

Xeo · Mar 18, 2004, 10:54 AM

I recently discovered hummus. I made a really great spicy sandwich with it. It's veggie. It's the only veggie sandwich I've eaten (and have eaten it in the last week). The lady who makes the sandwiches looked at me one day and asked if I needed sunflower seeds and sprouts on that too... two ingredients not on the menu. Sorry if I wanted a veggie sandwich!

boots · Mar 18, 2004, 11:25 AM

Yeah, the name sucks. I do, however, fall into the group of people who buys veggieburgers even though I'm not vegetarian. I really like some of them. (Of course, some brands just suck.)

If you have a cholesterol problem (like a couple people in my family) you try to make substitutions in your diet.

BUT DON'T PAWN YOURSELF OFF AS A VEGETARIAN! "Flexitarian" my @ss. Your just health conscious.

DBursey · Mar 18, 2004, 11:35 AM

Zimphire; what's with your observations that vegetarians are " ... claiming to be above meat-eaters" and "... superior"? I'd figured such rediculous generalizations to be beneath you.

Spheric Harlot · Mar 18, 2004, 11:40 AM

Originally posted by DBursey:
Zimphire; what's with your observations that vegetarians are " ... claiming to be above meat-eaters" and "... superior"? I'd figured such rediculous generalizations to be beneath you.

He never said that!

Stop projecting.

100% silly.

etc.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by DBursey:
Zimphire; what's with your observations that vegetarians are " ... claiming to be above meat-eaters" and "... superior"? I'd figured such rediculous generalizations to be beneath you.

The observations I have seen by vegans belittling meat eaters.

"You are eating that? murderer!"

Not generalizations. When I say they, I am speaking of those wanting to be called this. My belief that such a name came out because they STILL want to be known as vegetarians and eat meat at the same time.

Why would they want to do that? Other than to separate themselves from other like meat eaters?

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
100% silly.

Well at least you got one right.

boots · Mar 18, 2004, 12:01 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
The observations I have seen by vegans belittling meat eaters.

"You are eating that? murderer!"

Not generalizations. When I say they, I am speaking of those wanting to be called this. My belief that such a name came out because they STILL want to be known as vegetarians and eat meat at the same time.

Why would they want to do that? Other than to separate themselves from other like meat eaters?

Because...whether we agree with it or not, there are many people who associate a diet lacking pork and red meat as vegetarian. Fish and poultry are considered "ok." These aren't the animal rights people. These are health conscious people. Linguistically misguided, but health conscious.

And yes, it is still a generalization as you gave not met every vegan. The few you have met may be abnormal in more than just their diets. Until you have met ALL the vegans and determined that ALL vegans are hoity toity, you cannot make the claim that "vegan look down on meat eaters." You can, however, preface it by saying "All of the vegans I have met have been assholes."

osiris · Mar 18, 2004, 12:03 PM

Its 'tards like this that give us vegetarians a bad name.
Either you are, or you're not: turkey burger my butt, that's not vegetarian. That woman is a closet omnivore veggie poser, oh excuse me, a Flexitarian... (HFS that's stoooopid.)
If you want meat, eat it. Don't frickin BS about it.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by boots:
And yes, it is still a generalization as you gave not met every vegan.

I wasn't speaking about EVERY vegan was I? No.

The few you have met may be abnormal in more than just their diets.

The few? Who said I have only met a few? I've met many. IRL and the interweb.

Until you have met ALL the vegans and determined that ALL vegans are hoity toity, you cannot make the claim that "vegan look down on meat eaters." You can, however, preface it by saying "All of the vegans I have met have been assholes."

Actually what I said was.

What it is is, They have spent a good part of their life acting like they are ABOVE meat eaters (Even though they are born as such) that they don't want to be lumped in with them, even if they eat meat too!

When I say they, of course I am speaking about the topic. The people who want to call themselves flexitarians.

I am not speaking about all vegans as a whole.

I dated a few myself. Neither cared I ate meat.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by osiris:
Its 'tards like this that give us vegetarians a bad name.
Either you are, or you're not: turkey burger my butt, that's not vegetarian. That woman is a closet omnivore veggie poser, oh excuse me, a Flexitarian... (HFS that's stoooopid.)
If you want meat, eat it. Don't frickin BS about it.

Exactly. It's feel good tactics.

disectamac · Mar 18, 2004, 12:55 PM

You are not your turkey sandwich!.....no wait that didn't make sense. You are what you eat, so either you are a mammal or a plant....no that doesn't fit well either. You are a mammal with fangs by nature, we are meat eaters even by religious terms, even if you don't consider fish meat it's a living breathing animal. Some people consider plants to be alive much like animals so if you are a vegetarian because of the "life preservation" aspect of it then you should just stop eating period because trees feel pain too. [/end misguided confusing comment]

boots · Mar 18, 2004, 12:55 PM

You really are a moron Zimphire.

Originally posted by Zimphire:

I wasn't speaking about EVERY vegan was I? No.

By your wording, you were. "They" was not qualified. Suck it up and say "Sorry, I meant the one's I've talk to..." But we know sorry isn't in your vocabulary.....

The few? Who said I have only met a few? I've met many. IRL and the interweb.

Still relatively few of the total number. So it's a generalization. Until you've met all of them, it's a generalization.

I am not speaking about all vegans as a whole.

regardless, its still a generalization.

d4nth3m4n · Mar 18, 2004, 12:56 PM

wait till zimph sees this one

i dont care what people eat, but for many a label is everything. if veggies want to eat meat let them, getting up in arms about it is a little nuts. could we just consider this labeling a way to educate and raise public awareness of different ways to eat and maintain, instead of immediately taking offense to the liberal hippies who are contradicting themselves?

might go a little easier.

boots · Mar 18, 2004, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
wait till zimph sees this one

Hmmm. We always called it dumpster diving.

mike one · Mar 18, 2004, 02:10 PM

*puts on vegan-police badge, polishes truncheon*

complete bull$hit. either you are or you aren't vegetarian. can't be both, stupid mo-fo's.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by boots:
You really are a moron Zimphire.

When all else false, use the personal attack. How petty and droll.

By your wording, you were. "They" was not qualified. Suck it up and say "Sorry, I meant the one's I've talk to..."

No, they as in The PEOPLE THIS TOPIC IS ABOUT.

Suck it up and say "Sorry I knee jerked I figured you was speaking about all vegans when you was not."

But we know sorry isn't in your vocabulary.....

Wouldn't it be a bit silly to apologize for something I didn't do? Of course.

Still relatively few of the total number. So it's a generalization. Until you've met all of them, it's a generalization.

AGAIN, it's a good thing I wasn't speaking about ALL vegans now wasn't it.

regardless, its still a generalization.

Yes I generalize all the people that want to call themselves flexitarian's as being in denial.

Indeed I do.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 02:23 PM

Originally posted by mike one:
*puts on vegan-police badge, polishes truncheon*

complete bull$hit. either you are or you aren't vegetarian. can't be both, stupid mo-fo's.

Better watch out, boots will call you a moron.

d4nth3m4n · Mar 18, 2004, 02:39 PM

how do you do this so regularly zimph? i dont think anyone else here could start these kinds of flame wars over the smallest, pettiest things. bravo!

its really amazing to me.

Cubeoid · Mar 18, 2004, 02:44 PM

Sad sad people.

IonCable · Mar 18, 2004, 02:48 PM

I'm starting a group supporting Flexitarian Rights. We have been oppressed for to long in this country. We are a minority and like everyone else that is in a minority we demand our rights. I demand that all resturants prepare Flexitarian meals. I want the Vegans to stop calling me a meat eater, I'm not I just like sausage. I want the meat eaters to stop calling me Vegitarian. Call me what I am a Flexitarian, a vegitarian that can't commit.

the above brought to you tongue in cheek.

Zimphire · Mar 18, 2004, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
how do you do this so regularly zimph? i dont think anyone else here could start these kinds of flame wars over the smallest, pettiest things. bravo!

its really amazing to me.

All some people need is me making a post for them to go off.

Sad isn't it?

boots · Mar 18, 2004, 03:17 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Not generalizations. When I say they, I am speaking of those wanting to be called this. My belief that such a name came out because they STILL want to be known as vegetarians and eat meat at the same time.

And then:

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Yes I generalize all the people that want to call themselves flexitarian's as being in denial.

Indeed I do.

Ok. I'm happy. Carry on....