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sek929 · Oct 27, 2009, 12:12 PM

Not forgetting Sgt Hatred's comment about Billy Quizboy's young appearance and legal age.

Laminar · Oct 27, 2009, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

I thought he said his powers were due to his special suit harnessing the radiation of the sun's rays?

I thought it was his cells, not his suit.

And the news team thing was great.

The Final Dakar · Oct 27, 2009, 01:48 PM

Yes it was, even thought it felt a little like something I've seen before.

sek929 · Oct 27, 2009, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

I thought it was his cells, not his suit.

And the news team thing was great.

I almost forgot about that, the action chopper bit was done before on other shows, but not quite as hilariously.

The Final Dakar · Nov 2, 2009, 11:41 AM

Pretty 'meh' episode last night, though the ending killed me. Underscoring everyone's cluelessness is always killer.

Edit: Oh yeah, another Hatred pedophilia reference. Even though its supposed to be behind him now....

KeyLimePi · Nov 3, 2009, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I don't disagree too much, but homoerotic undertones + underage sidekick = pedophelia, basically.

I don't think he meant Capt. Sunshine was giving off homoerotic undertones. What I got from it was that Capt. Sunshine just had a weird, over-protective sort of daddy-thing. It was all of us that perceived his actions as being sexual. So I guess you could say we were the weirdos.

But as for last night's episode. wtf?

The Final Dakar · Nov 3, 2009, 10:09 AM

I was talking about the whole Batman & Robin dynamic since the comic books.

Eriamjh · Nov 3, 2009, 01:05 PM

I thought of the Bart Simpson evil twin episode the whole time.

I very much prefer the Brock/Butterfly/Guild episodes. This one was too stand-alone.

The Final Dakar · Nov 3, 2009, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

I thought of the Bart Simpson evil twin episode the whole time.

Good call.

sek929 · Nov 3, 2009, 01:13 PM

I have to say Dr. Venture stole the show for me, his sass was top-notch.

That and the exploding robotic Dr Ventures placed at "strategic locations," like 7 in the front lawn, and of course the demise of disfigured Dean was fairly hilarious if entirely expected.

ort888 · Nov 3, 2009, 01:29 PM

Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it!

Yeah, this ep was okay. The whole Dermott gag is played out by now. Yeah, he's an annoying teen. We get it already. Time for the pay off.

Where is Orpheus in all this? Where is Brock? We need Brock back! Sgt. Hatred is no replacement.

The Final Dakar · Nov 3, 2009, 01:33 PM

Dermot was played out the second he hit the screen. He's led to exactly one funny exchange on the show.

Henchman #24: "Who the hell are you?"
Dermot: "I'm Hank's friend!"
Henchman #24: "I doubt that."
Dermot: "Would you believe I'm Brock Sampson's long-lost son?"
Henchman #24: "If that were true I don't think I'd have caught you so easily."
Dermot: "I couldn't run because I have a lighter up my ass!"
Henchman #24: "Okay, now I believe you're Hank's friend."

sek929 · Nov 3, 2009, 01:35 PM

I think Dermot's buttsex comment was chuckle-worthy.

The Final Dakar · Nov 3, 2009, 01:39 PM

I think your face is chuckle-worthy.

sek929 · Nov 9, 2009, 01:44 PM

Awesome episode last night, yet another classic Monarch story.

I'm glad the Monarch told off the moppets, awful little beasts those guys, and I'm very interested in what 24s skull is up to.

The Final Dakar · Nov 9, 2009, 01:48 PM

Really? It was a pretty blasé episode – little to no action or humor. It was just backstory for what we missed between season 3 and 4. About the only interesting thing is who the hell was working on the checklist at the end of the episode (Anyone got a screengrab?Lots of foreshadowing there)

...and as always a Sgt. Hatred pedophilia reference. We practically need a running counter or something.

sek929 · Nov 9, 2009, 01:53 PM

It wasn't the best episode but I enjoyed it way more than Perchance to Dean. Maybe I'm a little to big of a Monarch fan, but his story had me grinning the whole time.

Big Mac · Nov 9, 2009, 03:51 PM

I liked HATRED going all the way down Sgt. Hatred's front. Have we seen that before?

sek929 · Nov 9, 2009, 04:23 PM

A few times, most notably the episode last season where Sgt. Hatred has a dinner party at his house.

Dex13 · Nov 9, 2009, 08:33 PM

hatred is old.
hatred needs to go.

Eriamjh · Nov 9, 2009, 09:36 PM

Blobface

OwlBoy · Nov 10, 2009, 02:51 AM

I really enjoyed this episode. I tend to like the episodes with lots of dialog though.

KeyLimePi · Nov 10, 2009, 11:51 AM

Okay episode. Hatred is starting to wear thin for me, but I like how the 24 character is evolving. I guess this season is going to be without much Brock. Which is a shame but last night's Dr. Girlfriend time almost makes up for it.

The Final Dakar · Nov 10, 2009, 11:59 AM

I'm beginning to think Warburton's absence might be the way they got [AS] to extend the season. He probably makes the most money on the show. MY guess is he'll be featured heavily in the second set of episodes (next year?).

Edit: We're halfway through this part of the season.

iMOTOR · Nov 14, 2009, 11:37 PM

Did anyone else notice the old Mac chime when they rebooted H.E.L.P.e.R in the first episode?

ort888 · Nov 15, 2009, 05:08 PM

Publick Nuisance - The Revenge Society

Jackson Publick says here that Brocks absense is a 100% creative choice and has nothing to do with Warburten. Good news!

- - e r i k - - · Nov 16, 2009, 02:50 PM

This season has hit the ground running. Sgt. Hatred and Brock-loss notwithstanding.

sek929 · Nov 16, 2009, 04:38 PM

I was pretty tired when I watched the new episode last night, I'll have to give it a re-watch before I'm going to comment. Overall it was better than the previous episode, and I chuckled when I noticed what Phantom Limb was now driving.

Big Mac · Nov 17, 2009, 10:13 AM

Huge arc episode. Probably should have been a two-parter - really liked it.

ort888 · Nov 17, 2009, 11:10 AM

It's funny/weird that the huge ORB plotline that dominated season 3 ended in such an unspectacular fashion.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 11:11 AM

I really hated the episode. Ort points out one of the reasons.

ort888 · Nov 17, 2009, 11:27 AM

I didn't hate it, but I found the end jarring. I need to rewatch it, because a whole lot happened very fast.

Why was the guild outside the compound and helping Phantom Limb? It seemed like they were having a conversation in a living room and then it cut to the guild sieging the compound. Did I miss a line of exposition in there or something?

I have a feeling that the ORB will be back in some way. They can't just leave it there. Not after all of that buildup.

The Final Dakar · 11:47 AM

1. Billy just coughs up the fact that Venture has the ORB without being pressed?
2. Did they explain how Phantom Limb survived? Or why he was visible again?
3. The two-headed dudes just strolled into the Venture compound without any of the Guild ops noticing them? They didn't surrender to them instead?
4. The safe had no combination? It was unlocked?
5. They kinda retconned Colonel Venture's death, didn't they? I'm not sure the tube was explicit that Sandow killed him, but it seemed very strongly implied.
6. ...and yeah, the ORB: anti-climactic as hell.

So yeah, hated the episode. Its hard to find anything funny when all this stuff starts piling up. Loved the future Doc bit, though.

Edit: ...and as always, pedophilia.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 12:01 PM

The episode wiki clears up points 2 and 5. But rest stands.

Laminar · Nov 17, 2009, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by iMOTOR

Did anyone else notice the old Mac chime when they rebooted H.E.L.P.e.R in the first episode?

YES allcaps

Big Mac · Nov 17, 2009, 03:57 PM

3. Dr. Venture said that he had to turn the security system off.
4. Is it really a stretch to think that Dr. Venture's safe would have an obvious combination or be open?

- - e r i k - - · Nov 17, 2009, 04:03 PM

Good lord, listen to you fanwankers.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 04:10 PM

Yeah the only thing worse is the people who have the time to post that they're looking down on us.

ort888 · Nov 17, 2009, 04:22 PM

So yeah, I read that very detailed wiki and still don't understand why the guild was assembled outside of the compound. How did they know to go there?

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Big Mac

3. Dr. Venture said that he had to turn the security system off.

I think you misread my 3.

Originally Posted by Big Mac

4. Is it really a stretch to think that Dr. Venture's safe would have an obvious combination or be open?

Perhaps not, but its another convenient situation in a long line onf convenient ones. They didn't even attempt to explain it with a throw-away line.

Originally Posted by ort888

So yeah, I read that very detailed wiki and still don't understand why the guild was assembled outside of the compound. How did they know to go there?

Yeah, I don't know how they knew about the ORB. The Bowie thing makes sense if he was trying to block Fantamos from usurping leadership.

ort888 · Nov 17, 2009, 04:58 PM

Yeah, I just found an explinations at the comments on mantis-eye.com

The Guild was there because Phantom Limb had stolen the Guild Charter, which would reveal that Bowie was not the rightful heir to the be Sovereign. He had to go to the Venture compound to have that honor bestowed upon him. Them being there had nothing to do with the ORB.

So why did Dean have to transfer power? Wouldn't Doc be the next in line?

This episode feels like it had 10 minutes cut out or something. Too much to cram into one story.

The Final Dakar · Nov 17, 2009, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by ort888

Them being there had nothing to do with the ORB.

I thought that too, and then I realized there was an Op hanging out in Brock's old room with the safe that contains the ORB. Couldn't be coincidence.

Eriamjh · Nov 17, 2009, 06:47 PM

"I wanna go back in my bag!"

sek929 · Nov 17, 2009, 07:22 PM

Cmon Dakar, no love at all for this episode?

Phantom Limb is driving a Honda Accord with a ghost painted on the hood, still nothing?

Laminar · Nov 18, 2009, 10:25 AM

I liked the last two quite a bit.

The Final Dakar · Nov 18, 2009, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by sek929

Cmon Dakar, no love at all for this episode?

Phantom Limb is driving a Honda Accord with a ghost painted on the hood, still nothing?

...

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Its hard to find anything funny when all this stuff starts piling up.

Big Mac · Nov 23, 2009, 06:54 AM

So, where's the bitching about tonight's solid episode?

The Final Dakar · Nov 23, 2009, 10:17 AM

You can go back to the PL with that attitude, Whopper.

Big Mac · Nov 23, 2009, 11:24 AM

Sorry, TFD.

The Final Dakar · Nov 23, 2009, 11:37 AM

Moving along, I really enjoyed it. There's something very weird about Seth Green playing Hodgman's older brother. I thought Oswald Patton nailed his part (I hope we're in for a few more celebrity voices over the next half season).

Loved the "Premature Ejaculation" line, which was surpassed only by the "Herpe" line. And 21 and The Monarch talking shop at the end was oddly amusing.

One note: So I guess Doc Venture has come to terms with being arched? And The Monarch has eased up (In that he hasn't killed Venture outright). Interesting turn of events.