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Oct 1, 2017, 12:28 AM
 
bess does love to follow me around...
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Oct 1, 2017, 11:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
The Left are no experts, anyone who believes that "racism is too apparent and too problematic in our society" is conflating it beyond all proportions and has bought the hype (again). The media has quite the dog in this fight too, driving traffic to their sites and feeding off the mayhem generated. IOW, like the "Red Scare" decades ago, there's much more hysteria built up around racism than there is actual racism, and what racism does exist is equally spread across all races.
A little test we ran to check for bias on Twitter:



The outcome was eye-opening. Of course, different mods will handle things in different ways and it may have been a situation of getting one who is a hardass and another that's more lax, but at the very least it shows that they can be quite inconsistent in their judgements.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
"I will kill you if I ever find you whitey." (For saying that I felt the NBA was justified in requiring its players stand for the Anthem.)

Hrmm, not sure, but that seems pretty racist.
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
*Bill Lumbergh voice*

"Yeahhhhhhh, I'm just going to have to go ahead and call BS on this wildly convenient anecdote"
Aawwww. I really *care. It's not "convenient" at all, when talking politics on Twitter it's common. Why? Because that platform attracts the most outspoken people, for good or ill, and their emotions are pegged right now. I did notice that the guy's profile is gone now, so I guess they banned them (probably for the weaksauce death threat). So that's a plus.





(*No, not really.)
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Oct 1, 2017, 12:32 PM
 
Someone was trying to get Trump's account banned for threatening nuclear war being against TOS. So I guess certain death threats don't count either. Theres that inconsistency you were talking about.
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Oct 1, 2017, 01:03 PM
 
So it was Twitter all along.

Hey CTP, get off that garbage factory known as Twitter, it’s poisoning your perception of large swaths of people because the ones that take to Twitter to rant are awful reactionary idiots.

Seriously, step back from Twitter, it’s been a net negative for humanity.

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Oct 1, 2017, 05:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
Racism is perhaps an even more complicated affair. What have you learned trying to get inside heads?
I can explain it best with a trip through my head. Mind the sticky spot.

I, like most, don't think I'm a racist.

I very rarely see racism occurring in my daily life.

I, as a human, have been evolved to be racist as a survival mechanism, so even if racism is occurring in my daily life, I'm not necessarily going notice it.

Of course, I'm surrounded by examples of normalized racism, but those aren't noticed by definition.

The deck is completely stacked against me thinking racism is some overwhelming problem. The threat is literally invisible.

AFAICT, the proposed method to help me over this hurdle is demand I substitute my observations with whatever the MSM decides to say. I pretty much agree with you guys, and the idea makes me wanna hurl.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Represent ≠ Personify
I mean, depends on the definition, but to me, yes.

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His official statement was "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color".

That sounds like indicting the country.
I'll have to concede that.

I would like to point out though, that he cared enough about the opinion of the military that he consulted a green beret and modified his protest to the knee from just sitting. He obviously cares about how he sends that message.

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It took me a bit to figure out why I'm both seeing the points here, and getting a totally different read at the same time.

The following is exaggerated for clarity.

Trump thinks racism doesn't exist.
What happens when you come to that conclusion through racist thinking?

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Trump thinks cops get an entirely undeserved bad rap.
Or he thinks all those black dudes they kill are bad hombres, so they're justified.

Trump thinks he can't oppress Kaepernick because Kaepernick and him are on a level playing field.[/quote]No way, even if I thought he considered such a thing, punch has no problem punching down.

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Trump isn't dogwhistling his base, his base thinks the same thing.
The base with economic anxiety?
     
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I'm losing the thread of why Kaepernick needs to be defended. I haven't criticized him.

What does "coming to that conclusion through racist thinking" mean?

Though I don't think it was intentional, "Punch" is a great ****in nickname for him. As far as Punch punching down goes, if it isn't obvious Punch's whole schtick is overcompensation for crippling self-hatred, I... don't know what to tell you.

Can I request the economic anxiety point be rephrased? I don't really get it.
     
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So it was Twitter all along.
I said it was on Twitter at the beginning.

Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
That's not true (not that you care), I've had several racial slurs leveled at me today, along with a death threat (which I turned over to Twitter to deal with), but that's par for your assumptions, isn't it?
Hey CTP, get off that garbage factory known as Twitter, it’s poisoning your perception of large swaths of people because the ones that take to Twitter to rant are awful reactionary idiots.
Maybe you missed this?

Why? Because that platform attracts the most outspoken people, for good or ill, and their emotions are pegged right now.
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Oct 2, 2017, 02:12 PM
 
The Ravens kneeled to pray before the national anthem and got boo'd. Yup, not about the anthem.
     
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The citation police are going to fine you.
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Oct 16, 2017, 01:43 PM
 
I'll be amazed if he can prove it, but Kaepernick is suing the NFL for being black balled.
     
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Oct 16, 2017, 07:27 PM
 
^^^^

Just goes to show that it's not about "respect" for the flag or the national anthem.

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Oct 16, 2017, 07:34 PM
 
Earlier in this controversy while watching a Green Bay game I noticed a fan wiping rain from his face with a flag as well. These idiots fellate the national anthem yet treat the flag like a towel and or blanket.

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Oct 16, 2017, 07:35 PM
 
^^^

Exactly.

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Oct 16, 2017, 07:57 PM
 
That was photoshopped by Belichick
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Not a peep.
     
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Oct 17, 2017, 10:25 AM
 
It’s patriotic to wear the flag as a codpeice and get Budweiser-Bukkake.

“And I have to tell you, folks, I don't really believe very much in my country either. I don't get all choked up about yellow ribbons and American flags. I see them as symbols, and I leave them to the symbol-minded.” - George Carlin

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Oct 17, 2017, 10:53 AM
 
It's very respectful to soldiers to cradle your dick and nutsack with the flag
     
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Oct 27, 2017, 04:15 PM
 
Can't have the inmates running the prison
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Can't have the inmates running the prison


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Oct 27, 2017, 04:44 PM
 
In a huge coincidence that guy donated the most to Trump out of NFL owners
     
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Oct 27, 2017, 05:14 PM
 
^^^

Not surprised to hear that at all.

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Most of his team kneeled as a **** you back to him.
     
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^^^

Good for them!

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I thought the phrase was “running the asylum”
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I thought the phrase was “running the asylum”
It is if you don't think of your players as latent criminals.
     
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2017 is a cursed year for the NFL in many ways, especially injuries.

Deshaun Watson is the exciting new QB for the Texans, who were a QB away from beating NE in the divisional playoff game last year. Today in practice he tore his ACL/MCL.

Some other notable season-ending injuries:

Aaron Rodgers
Julian Edelman
JJ Watt
Whitney Mercilus (Texans are cursed)
Carson Palmer
Andrew Luck
Odell Beckham
The Bucs and Raiders kickers are both on IR
Literally everybody on the offensive line for Washington

The winner of SB52 will be whomever has the most ACLs intact as a team

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All of a sudden we could have a week featuring all of these QBs as starters: Nathan Peterman, Blaine Gabbert, Kellen Clemens, Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tom Savage.

But yeah, the decision not to pick up Kaep is totally based on analytics and not at all because of him kneeling. The guy was a couple plays away from being a Super Bowl champion but let’s start Tom f**king Savage instead to playcate our dumbass vocal minority fanbase.

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^^^

Precisely.

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Wait you mean CTP was wrong about him?

I'm shocked I tell you.
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To be honest, Kaep would probably suck as much as the next random backup since he’s been out of the league so long. The fact no one picked him up before or early in to this season is 100% blackballing.

His stock dropped after the 49ers axed Jim Harbaugh and he suffered under two abysmal coaches. By the time he started kneeling most already considered him washed up but I see it as the fault of circumstance.

If I was a GM of about a dozen franchises I would take Kaep as a backup with no hesitation. Right now he’d be a starter on at least 6 teams due to injuries. With a proper coach and offensive coordinator he could be just as explosive as when he was under Harbaugh.

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Originally Posted by Drew Magary
Any chud yelling at media pundits to stick to sports is directing their ire at the wrong target. The NFL created this distraction economy, and they have made no real effort to undo it. It’s the NFL’s fault that Colin Kaepernick remains a visible pariah, because teams were too chickenshit to sign him. It’s the NFL’s fault that Roger Goodell sincerely proclaimed that they would be a leader in the “domestic violence space,” a task that’s difficult enough for actual experts in that field and nay impossible for some lunkheaded sports goon. It’s the NFL’s fault that they let Jerry Jones seize control of nearly all of the league’s background commerce, to the point where Jerry doesn’t give a thin shit if he leaves behind an enormous mess as he grabs for even more power and money. It’s the NFL’s fault that they have a PUTRID relationship with their own players, which is one of the reasons they can’t compel them all to stand for the anthem and soothe fan and sponsor discontent.

[pauses for breath]

It’s the NFL’s fault that they demanded Roger have supreme punishing power, which means they tussle with the players in court every time a high profile player gets in deep shit. It’s the NFL’s fault that they suppressed brain injuries for so long that they get blindsided every so often with a CAT scan of a former player that looks like a map of flooded river delta. It’s the NFL’s fault that they overextended the Thursday night football schedule to the point where player complaints about fatigue and injury override the games, even when they’re competitive. It’s the NFL’s fault that they cannot stop tinkering with the rulebook, to the point that the postmortem for many games center on how visibly awful the officiating is. It’s the NFL’s fault they injected themselves into local politics to wrangle one-sided stadium deals. It’s the NFL’s fault that they used their massive ratings as a cudgel and now have to deal with public speculation as to what will happen now that those ratings are falling. It’s the NFL’s fault they brought players out to the field for the anthem and stretched out ****ing field-size flags at a time when America’s standing both in the world and in the history of mankind are undergoing a thoroughly deserved reevaluation.

And it is TOTALLY the NFL’s fault that they took it upon themselves to be the vanguard of American values. The NFL wanted to be about more than football, and now they act surprised when extracurricular issues pervade the sport. Look at right now. We’re still in the middle of “Salute to Service month,” which has long been a poorly veiled mix of commerce and nationalism. This comes on the heels of cancer month, which is a wonderful cause but again represents the NFL making a dramatic overreach beyond its skill set. The NFL is actively bad at solving non-football problems, but no one asked them to try. And now they’ve gotten so caught up in all that shit that they now suck at the football part, which is all they should have focused on to begin with.
https://deadspin.com/the-nfl-cant-st...ult-1820504568

Sums up the NFLs woes quite tidily.

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I don't understand why NFL owners seem determined to retain Goodell as commissioner when the majority seem unsatisfied or unhappy with his performance. They have nothing to lose by going in a new direction, do they?
     
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I don't understand why NFL owners seem determined to retain Goodell as commissioner when the majority seem unsatisfied or unhappy with his performance. They have nothing to lose by going in a new direction, do they?
What is more amazing is there is talk of pulling a “Marge Schott” on Jerry Jones in order to keep Goodell.
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Actually that makes sense. Jones is a thorn with real power. Goodell is a fall guy who they can fire, I assume.
     
 
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