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The only horseshit to be found around here is your willful blindness towards scientific analysis, it's like talking with a Southern Baptist about evolution or climate change.
They signed a RB that never fumbled in college and he didn't fumble for them in 4 years. Keep grasping at straws buddy it doesn't look desperate at all.

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Jan 27, 2015, 02:19 PM
 
Maybe he's the one who taught Belicheck the value of underinflated footballs.
     
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Jan 27, 2015, 02:23 PM
 
Now that's a hot take!

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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
They signed a RB that never fumbled in college and he didn't fumble for them in 4 years. Keep grasping at straws buddy it doesn't look desperate at all.
and then suddenly developed fumblitis when traded to the Bengals? Yeeeah...
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Why Those Statistics About The Patriots Fumbles Are Mostly Junk

Please, please, please keep digging that hole dude, seriously, this is getting hilarious.

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Jan 27, 2015, 05:07 PM
 
"We're not refuting the data, just the way they delivered it!" Yeeeah...

Please, please, please keep defending your cheating, lying-ass football team, it's been hilarious for a while now. And by hilarious I mean sad.
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Really guys, both sides can stop with the "You guys are hilarious" and "Keep talking" gambit.
     
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"We're not refuting the data, just the way they delivered it!"
Yup, that's how stats can be manipulated, which is the entire point of the article I'm sure you read all of.

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Throwing some gas on the fire
Neil deGrasse Tyson Admits He Was Wrong On Deflategate
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Originally Posted by Chris Long
No matter what comes of this, I don’t think I’ll be questioning the Patriots’ legacy. But that’s just one man’s opinion. Football is a profoundly difficult game. You could pair countless quarterbacks with countless head coaches and give them a bag of magic footballs and they’d still struggle to win a playoff game. Tom and Bill have won 20 (a record), with an ever-changing cast of characters in an ever-changing league.
A Player’s Take on Deflategate | The Players Tribune

Good read if you're not prone to hyperbole.

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The pope weighs in.
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A Player’s Take on Deflategate | The Players Tribune

Good read if you're not prone to hyperbole.
Seriously? In this very thread I said Brady is the best playoff QB in history, he is. He may be a complete douchenozzle with questionable ethics, but he has amazing skill and athletic ability. It's just a shame that he feels that blatantly cheating is just fine and a part of the game. Although it won't damage his legacy, per se (they have his HoF alcove ready for him in Canton), it does further harm his reputation as an active player.
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So, they're really not gonna address this until after the superbowl. Goodell is such a piece of shit.
     
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Jan 30, 2015, 02:56 PM
 
I called it. He and Kraft have been buds for too long to allow for this to interfere with a shot at a SB win, which is why I feel the NFL has become too corrupt to be taken seriously. This isn't just going to affect my watching the game on Sunday, but also my viewership in the future as well. Oh well, at least there's college football (still imperfect but at least they try to enforce their own rules).
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Oh well, at least there's college football (still imperfect but at least they try to enforce their own rules).
Yeah, if ignore all the BS around recruiting, fake classes, and the fact that they are ripping off the players tremendously.
     
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Recruiting is the big one there, it's always been a blood bath. However, they (the NCAA) do hand out between 20-30 penalties and sanctions /year for violations, so they do have an aggressive stance on trying to clean it up, though I don't think they'll ever be 100% successful.

Fake classes? You're trying to say that Introduction to Underwater Basket-Weaving isn't real?!? Seriously though, as for ripping off the students, if the kids apply themselves they get a free education (some actually do), plus they now receive allowances, not to mention free room and board. Only the halo schools make out well, most of Division 1A only scrapes by or, at best, makes a modest return. If they allowed for players to make actual salaries you'd have the top 1/3rd of the schools getting all of the good players and the top 20 (or so) pulling the best of the best (all of the 5 stars). It would create an imbalance that would easily dwarf what's seen in MLB, not to mention what it would do to Division 2 and 3 schools. Right now, for the first time ever, we're seeing a degree of parity in NCAA football, smaller schools actually crack the top 20 now (sometimes even the top 10) and even get invited to major bowls (Boise St, Baylor, TCU, the last two were even in the hunt for the playoffs). All of that would be washed away by the powerhouse schools with deep pockets.
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If they allowed for players to make actual salaries you'd have the top 1/3rd of the schools getting all of the good players and the top 20 (or so) pulling the best of the best (all of the 5 stars).
Quite honestly, why should I give a shit? You're prioritizing the sport over the people who make it possible. There's also this thing called a salary cap.
     
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if the kids apply themselves they get a free education (some actually do)
Give them the option of picking up that degree anytime after they leave, and I might agree with this compensation.

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not to mention free room and board.
Oh boy, room and board. Because not giving food and shelter to unpaid athletes would be practical.
     
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I called it. He and Kraft have been buds for too long to allow for this to interfere with a shot at a SB win, which is why I feel the NFL has become too corrupt to be taken seriously. This isn't just going to affect my watching the game on Sunday, but also my viewership in the future as well. Oh well, at least there's college football (still imperfect but at least they try to enforce their own rules).


On the flipside maybe the NFL doesn't have anything to report besides their own incompetence. Two leaked reports that have been since brought into doubt by other leaked reports are the flimsiest excuse for guilt I have ever heard.

However, if my Patriots actually get you to stop watching the NFL completely I'll count that as a rousing success.

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Quite honestly, why should I give a shit? You're prioritizing the sport over the people who make it possible. There's also this thing called a salary cap.
Some schools don't even make enough from their programs to pay their players a moderate wage, something akin to having a full-time job making $15 /hr. Few schools can negotiate $20M TV contracts, or fill an 80,000 seat stadium every game day. Whether you give a shit or not is irrelevant, I'm just explaining why it wouldn't work.

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Give them the option of picking up that degree anytime after they leave, and I might agree with this compensation.

Oh boy, room and board. Because not giving food and shelter to unpaid athletes would be practical.
Room and board is expensive for a mid/lower tier school, they aren't rolling in bucks, and the student can go back and finish their degrees, the credits they attend should still be good for quite some time.
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Make the Deflatriots use a greased ball for all offensive plays
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On the flipside maybe the NFL doesn't have anything to report besides their own incompetence. Two leaked reports that have been since brought into doubt by other leaked reports are the flimsiest excuse for guilt I have ever heard.

However, if my Patriots actually get you to stop watching the NFL completely I'll count that as a rousing success.
Your Patriots are a disgrace, the worst type of scum in professional sports. But you choose to accept and embrace that, I don't.
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Jan 30, 2015, 05:56 PM
 
Hahaha love it, keep the hate coming.

You have based your entire judgement on a single, disputed, report from an ESPN writer. From here the media drew a million conclusions, none of which make any sense. Once the Patriots win the SB, and are eventually cleared on any wrongdoing, you'll have only the Kraft Conspiracy to lean on...and lean you shall.

Your team, The Denver Broncos, cheated to win 2 Super Bowls and were fined nearly a million dollars for it, but an unsubstantiated rumor about footballs with imperceptibly less air in them somehow becomes a rallying cry. If this news broke about any other team, literally any other team, it wouldn't have been talked about for more than 20 minutes. Rodgers tries to pass over inflated balls past the refs, past SB winners paid thousands to have others illegal doctor the ball, this very season the Vikings were warned about heating them up on the sidelines (same rule violation) and yet nothing, nothing until the big bad Patriots were "caught."

I'm glad you'll be boycotting the NFL next year.

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Disgust mixed with pity != hate, but you do what you need to do.
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Originally Posted by Ian Rappoport
Eleven of the 12 footballs used in the first half were judged by the officials to be under the minimum of 12.5 PSI, but just one was two pounds under. Many of them were just a few ticks under the minimum.
Thus ended the lunacy that was Deflategate. I feel embarrassed I was initially taken by the sensationalism and awful journalism.

Today will be historic for the sport of football, one way or another.

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Thus ended the lunacy that was Deflategate. I feel embarrassed I was initially taken by the sensationalism and awful journalism.

Today will be historic for the sport of football, one way or another.
Sure will. When Brady loses again...

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Do Not Root For The Goddamn Patriots

Drew is my favorite writer at Deadspin, his "Why your teams sucks" installments are hilarious, this one is no exception.

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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Thus ended the lunacy that was Deflategate. I feel embarrassed I was initially taken by the sensationalism and awful journalism.

Today will be historic for the sport of football, one way or another.
Oh yeah, Ian Rappaport has said so (another reporter), citing "multiple sources", none of which he's linked to the NFL itself. You do realize that so far none of this has reached beyond hearsay, it's still a case of "my anonymous sources are better than yours".

Heh. If you think sanctions and fines aren't coming from this fiasco, then you're nucking futs.
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Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play the game.

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Bill Belickick is the best HC in history

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Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play the game.
No, he really isn't.

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Eat your words haters, eat them.

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You got lucky that Pete Carroll made a dumbass call. LUCKY. Hawks had that game and Brady's ass in the bag.

AND YOU KNOW IT.

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Just like the Giants got lucky? Better team won.

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Just like the Giants got lucky? Better team won.
No, the Giants didn't do anything effing STUPID like the Hawks did.

Your guy would have lost. Again. The win had NOTHING to do with Brady and everything to do with a stupid offensive call.

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Hahaha your tears sustain me

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Cheaters prosper? They do in the NFL.

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Tom Brady is the best QB to ever play the game*.
You forgot your asterisk, here I'll add it for you.




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Bill Belickick is the best HC in history*
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Better team won*
and again
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Hahaha your tears sustain me
Your blind ignorance sustain me.

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Eli Manning will be a footnote of Patriot's history.

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Eli Manning will be a footnote of Patriot's history*
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I love this, keep the hate coming

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Yawn. Didn't watch it except the last 7 minutes.

Seahawks decided that they really didn't want to win.
Like the Packers did two weeks ago.

So the Patriots by default won.

Yawn.

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I love this, keep the hate coming*
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I love this, keep the hate coming
Hate? I'm simply making your statements more factual.
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Hate? I'm simply making your statements more factual.
Weird, on my computer this comes out as "hate hate hate hate hate hate"

How's your team doing Shaddim? Getting shutout in the SB by the 2nd most hated team in sports only themselves to lose by the big dogs of hate has to burn, does it burn? I bet it burns.

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