[mattyb]

Well the trailor is out. http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/ter...ion/large.html

Can't say that I like Christian Bale using his Batman voice. T2, IMHO, ranks as one of the best, if not THE best sequel of all time. I hope they don't f**k up this as much as T3.

[Maflynn]

Looks good.

It doesn't bother me that Bale is using his "batman" voice. I liked the original terminator movie, and all of the other sequels paled in comparison, even T2

[Ted L. Nancy]

Originally Posted by mattyb 

Well the trailor is out. http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/ter...ion/large.html

Can't say that I like Christian Bale using his Batman voice. T2, IMHO, ranks as one of the best, if not THE best sequel of all time. I hope they don't f**k up this as much as T3.

I like T3. I'm glad we have a T4 coming and that the franchise still has so much potential.

[Big Mac]

It does look good. I liked T3 for what it was, but it was a much lighter weight film than T2 obviously. T2 was the best by far (I agree it's one of the best sequels ever), and it has stood the test of time graphically, which is more than can be said for T1 (which is still a decent film but looks quite dated especially with the Terminator scenes toward the end). Hopefully T4 can kick some ass.

[Chuckit]

I still haven't watched the third one. T2 was so perfect that I don't want to spoil it. I might possibly watch this one. Christian Bale tends to do good stuff, but then again there was Reign of Fire.

[ort888]

Originally Posted by Maflynn 

Looks good.

It doesn't bother me that Bale is using his "batman" voice. I liked the original terminator movie, and all of the other sequels paled in comparison, even T2

Thank you.

The original movie is a complete classic. The second movie, is a pretty fun popcorn movie/special effects extravaganza that is a very poor sequel to the first movie and ultimately not a great movie.

Many people seem to disagree though...

The third movie is just horrible.

The TV show is horrible.

The fourth movie will probably also be horrible.

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by ort888 

The original movie is a complete classic. The second movie, is a pretty fun popcorn movie/special effects extravaganza that is a very poor sequel to the first movie and ultimately not a great movie.

Wow, you really think that? T2 was excellent.

[Chuckit]

I can understand why somebody might like Terminator but not T2. It was a sequel in the sense that it came after the plot of the first one, but it wasn't trying to be the original. I thought the second had much more interesting characters, particularly Sarah Connor. It was much smarter and more artful than your usual action movie, but I think it appeals to different tastes than the first one did.

[Uncle Skeleton]

T1 was the only one that wasn't trying to be "grand." That was definitely a plus. Ever since then the characters take themselves way too seriously. Except Arnold from T2 of course, that was cool. "You were going to kill them?" "I am a terminator."

Edit: I just want to say that I do like "grand" movies, especially if there is an apocalypse in there, but it does get tiring. What I really want is a light-hearted apocalypse, kind of like the Family Guy did.

[Chuckit]

I know what you mean, but I don't hold it against T2 that lots of other movies have tried to do the same thing. That's like hating The Godfather because there are lots of generic crime flicks out there. I prefer to direct my tiredness at all the movies that didn't do it as well.

[ghporter]

T1 was made on a relative shoestring, and the filmmakers had to be very creative to get their movie made at all, let alone made well. Much of the film was made using very old-style effects that were just done very well. For example, near the end of the movie, when the terminator endoskeleton is stalking Sarah through the factory, it was simply a puppet with the works out of frame; a very low-tech way to do the effect.

T2 was an overall very good story. Sarah has gone out and learned how to survive in what she knows is coming, and the rest of the world thinks she's bats. Until the T800 shows up, of course. The advancement in terminator design resulting in the T1000 was a neat idea and one that made the T1000 much more scary. It was also a well-made film that featured plenty of spectacle. I can't say I like either T1 or T2 better than the other because they're so different, but I liked them both very, very much.

I've never seen T3 and I'm not looking at trying.

I have yet to watch a whole episode of "The Sarah Connor Chronicles," but what I have seen is both well made and interesting. They have a good cast, what appears to be solid writing, and the money to do everything right. From all reports, they are doing just that.

From what I've seen of the TWO "Terminator: Salvation" trailers, I am looking forward to this film. Much of what was hinted at in T1 and T2 (flashbacks mostly) may now actually be there on film...

[nonhuman]

I actually just watched T1 for the first time the othe weekend. It really was a fantastic movie. It was really refreshing to see a move that relied so heavily on effects and yet didn't use them as a crutch to carry the plot (plus I'm a sucker for old-school effects). I'm planning on watching T2 again this weekend (haven't seen it since it first came out on VHS), and then moving on to 3 which I haven't seen yet. Really looking forward to 4. (Also I've been watching SCC, which I love. But Summer Glau may have a disproportionately large effect on that...)

[starman]

Yeah, they made good movies back then, before Armageddon ruined it for everyone.

I wouldn't put T2 in the "popcorn movie" category. That's generally for crap you need to turn your brain off for. T2 was far from that. A damn good film.

[brassplayersrock²]

No Summer Glau in this movie?

[nonhuman]

No

But at least Moon Bloodgood will be:

(I highly recommend a Google image search.)

[brassplayersrock²]

p.s.
I read her last name as: bloodwood

[Brien]

Looks better than T3.

This whole theme of the future changing from all the time travel seems pretty interesting.

[brassplayersrock²]

sorta kinda on topic, but mostly isn't:

Prosthesis: Bomb Victim Fitted With Cyborg Arm That Fuses With Her Own Skin and Bone

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Brien 

Looks better than T3.

This whole theme of the future changing from all the time travel seems pretty interesting.

They actually introduced that idea on the TV series too. Two people have come back from the future at different times, but they remember different things about it, so one of them is convinced the other is repressing his memories. Then finally he says, "Wait a minute, I'm not repressing my memories. Those things never happened to me. We're from different futures."

[Langdon]

Why was there a Transformer in the final scene in that trailer?

[nonhuman]

Most of the way through T3 now. Wow, this movie sucks. It's like a cartoony version of the first two.

[nonhuman]

Movie's over. Wow. Ended with a bang.

[CharlesS]

Originally Posted by Langdon 

Why was there a Transformer in the final scene in that trailer?

Wow, I can't believe someone would get this:



confused with this:



They don't even look the same!

[sdilley14]

Looks kinda cool...

[MallyMal]

I think he meant Transformer as in Optimus Prime referring to that big robot.

[CharlesS]

I guess I wouldn't know, because I've never been too into the terminator and transformer movies - I'm holding out for Capacitor 3. The first two of the trilogy really seemed to be building up energy, and I hear that this is going to be the one that finally lets it all loose.

[brassplayersrock²]

^ do NOT do a g.i.s on non filtered mode for capacitor 3!

[elrah]

T1 is a classic, T2 is a good popcorn movie... T3 is like a less good T2. I haven't bothered with the TV series because it doesn't get past my intuition for crappy tv series. I'm intrigued to see how Salvation turns out. Like a movie length version of Kyle's flashbacks from T1. I always wanted to see more of that future. Hope I won't regret watching it like I do the Star Wars PT, maybe some things were best left to my imagination.

[Eug]

I like the TV series. It's popcorn stuff only of course, but so are T2 and T3.

But yeah, that trailer looks like a cross between T2, Batman, and Transformers.

[brassplayersrock²]

damn this thread!

went out an bought T1($5) and T3 ($3) (had T2) and just finished the trilogy. *sigh* great, greater, meh

off to bed for me

[Langdon]

I am all for growing out the film franchise with new character/enemy elements but a giant robot is cliche. The film should have stayed true to the basic spirit of the original Terminator and kept the robots threatening but manageable. They had their drop ships and other miscellaneous motorized Skynet drones but to see a 5 story terminator clumsily stomping around ruins the premise for me.

And the Post Judgment Day world in this film looks like they poached the sets from the Resident Evil movie people.

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

^ do NOT do a g.i.s on non filtered mode for capacitor 3!

??!!!????!

After 10 pages of images to see what the heck you're warning about, I gave up...

[brassplayersrock²]

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[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by Uncle Skeleton 

What I really want is a light-hearted apocalypse,

So you want an apocalypso then?

[Brien]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

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[Chongo]

Originally Posted by nonhuman 

No

But at least Moon Bloodgood will be:

(I highly recommend a Google image search.)

Fixenated, and Hot Babes thread worthy

[ghporter]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

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[Stogieman]

You know Apple should really add binary to dashboard translator widget.

[Mac User #001]

Originally Posted by nonhuman 

No

But at least Moon Bloodgood will be:

(I highly recommend a Google image search.)

Looks faintly like Jessica Biel here, no?

[Don Pickett]

Looks craptastic. Also unfortunately looks like they're continuing the trajectory since T2, which is to substitute scary robots and explosions for writing.

The beauty of the original Terminator is that it wasn't sci-fi: it was a horror movie, which meant the focus was on atmosphere and suggestion. This is also true of Alien, which is why it's so good. The following movies have been big budget Hollywood explosionfests, which means the focus is on, well, explosions. This one looks the same. (And, for the record, I think T2 was was an abominably crappy movie, right down to Arnie's last scene where he's lowered into molten metal giving the thumbs up or whatever. Talk aboutcher crap.)

[starman]

Terminator wasn't a horror movie. WTF?

[nonhuman]

Originally Posted by Mac User #001 

Looks faintly like Jessica Biel here, no?

She kinda does. Never noticed that before.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by Mac User #001 

Looks faintly like Jessica Biel here, no?

She really doesn't look a thing like her normally, but I still think she'd pretty cute.

[elrah]

Originally Posted by Don Pickett 

Looks craptastic. Also unfortunately looks like they're continuing the trajectory since T2, which is to substitute scary robots and explosions for writing.

The beauty of the original Terminator is that it wasn't sci-fi: it was a horror movie, which meant the focus was on atmosphere and suggestion. This is also true of Alien, which is why it's so good. The following movies have been big budget Hollywood explosionfests, which means the focus is on, well, explosions. This one looks the same. (And, for the record, I think T2 was was an abominably crappy movie, right down to Arnie's last scene where he's lowered into molten metal giving the thumbs up or whatever. Talk aboutcher crap.)

Exactly right. Alien and Terminator seem to have suffered very similar fates. Both of the original films had strong cinematographic value, very well directed, stylish, etc. The sequels have successively reduced any element of subtlty from the films in favour of dumb effects. So its no surprise that the majority of people prefer AlienS and T2.

Originally Posted by starman 

Terminator wasn't a horror movie. WTF?

I think the film could be classified as a sci-fi/horror. There is more suspense than a standard action film, though the suspense has been diluted in the sequels as Don Picket says. And more frightening/menacing than a thriller, though I think this is a closer call.

[brassplayersrock²]

hopefully she'll go through a time bubble (whatever they're called) *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* a ha

[starman]

Sorry, but Aliens didn't suffer from explosions. In fact, I think there were only a handful of them in the whole film. T2 had good, new effects for its time but the writing was very good too. By your own logic, Alien 3 and T3 should have done just as well but they didn't because they lacked the effort put into the previous films.

Also, Alien came out at a time when movies were made differently. You couldn't make that kind of movie today, or Blade Runner for that matter. Also, Aliens and T2 both came out 7 years after their predecessors (1979-1986 and 1984-1991 respectively). Things change in seven years.

[Mac User #001]

Originally Posted by brassplayersrock² 

hopefully she'll go through a time bubble (whatever they're called) *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* a ha

Judging from the Google Image Search I was told to perform, that shouldn't be a problem

[elrah]

Originally Posted by starman 

Sorry, but Aliens didn't suffer from explosions. In fact, I think there were only a handful of them in the whole film. T2 had good, new effects for its time but the writing was very good too. By your own logic, Alien 3 and T3 should have done just as well but they didn't because they lacked the effort put into the previous films.

Aliens suffers from "dumb american syndrome". "Hey man lets kill 'em man, Yeah!" *machine gun noise* "Hooooo RAH!"

I like Aliens, but it planted the seed for the franchises demise.

Originally Posted by starman 

Also, Alien came out at a time when movies were made differently. You couldn't make that kind of movie today, or Blade Runner for that matter. Also, Aliens and T2 both came out 7 years after their predecessors (1979-1986 and 1984-1991 respectively). Things change in seven years.

Yeah, its a shame that film studios have lowered their expectations on audience intelligence.

[powerbook867]

Sorta looking forward to Salvation, but I am hesitant to say "Hooooo RAH!" just yet..

I am a huge Alien/Aliens/Alien3 junky... 2 changed the genre of the series significantly (which I still enjoyed), but the directors cut of Alien3 somewhat brought it back to the original concept. Resurrection was simply terrible. I died a little inside when I watched it.. uggh.

[starman]

Originally Posted by elrah 

Aliens suffers from "dumb american syndrome". "Hey man lets kill 'em man, Yeah!" *machine gun noise* "Hooooo RAH!"

I like Aliens, but it planted the seed for the franchises demise.

BUZZ! Sorry. I have to disagree here. What did you want? Another slow-paced film? Aliens was a great action flick because it gave audiences the chance to see how badass those things were by putting them up against a group of marines. It was awesome. Saw it on midnight opening night.