[Zimmerman]

http://www.wired.com/news/mac/0,2125...ory_page_prev2

Comment! I say

[paully dub]

funny stuff

[typoon]

Pretty funny article. I bet Bill isn't too happy about it.

[itistoday]

Originally posted by typoon:
Pretty funny article. I bet Bill isn't too happy about it.

And I bet Steve is having a ball

[ASIMO]

Originally posted by itistoday:
And I bet Steve is having a ball

Or two.

[DeathToWindows]

Someone punched billy-boy on the playground... wah!

[ReggieX]

Fifteen minutes later, the manager responded: "I don't know what I was thinking. I'm sure that Microsoft employees are not buying iPods, or Macs or PlayStations."

Internal memos telling employees what MP3 player they can use? Screw you, buddy.

[turtle777]

-t

[brapper]

I was just about to post this myself.
So funny.

[typoon]

I wonder if there will be a memo going out about the use of iPOds and people's employment at Microsoft. Not that they could do that but I wonder if it might happen.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by typoon:
I wonder if there will be a memo going out about the use of iPOds and people's employment at Microsoft. Not that they could do that but I wonder if it might happen.

Of course they could do that. What are you thinking ?
Employment at will means you can get fired for anything and nothing.

-t

[Eriamjh]

It's obvious that Microsoft should be talking to Apple about getting DRMd WMA to work on the iPod.

Then all music stores would work with the iPod. Although Apple probably doesn't want to lose iTunes Store sales to any other store, it is possible.

It won't happen though.

[OB1]

If I received a memo telling me what personal music player to use my blood would be boiling.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by OB1:
If I received a memo telling me what personal music player to use my blood would be boiling.

That would be the "normal" state of yours, working for M$ anyways...

-t

[voodoo]

Originally posted by ReggieX:

Internal memos telling employees what MP3 player they can use? Screw you, buddy.

Normally yes, but not if you're from the USA. Then you could be fired. No questions asked.

"John, you use an iPod right?"

"Yeah? What about it?"

"Clean up your desk and be gone by tomorrow. Thanks."

Yes land of the free indeed. Watch out people

[discotronic]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Normally yes, but not if you're from the USA. Then you could be fired. No questions asked.

"John, you use an iPod right?"

"Yeah? What about it?"

"Clean up your desk and be gone by tomorrow. Thanks."

Yes land of the free indeed. Watch out people

I can see the headlines now. "Microsoft Fires Employee for Owning an Apple iPod."

[Wiskedjak]

I don't see it so much as M$'s fault that M$ employees are purchasing iPods and not WMA players. The main reason they are favouring the iPod is because of it's industrial design and high usability; M$ does not have any impact on those factors in WMA players. Personally, I don't see that the iPod competes with any M$ products.

AAC, on the other hand, competes directly with WMA. I don't like WMA because it is too restrictive. I dislike AAC for exactly the same reason. All of my music is in MP3 format for maximum flexibility.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
AAC, on the other hand, competes directly with WMA. I don't like WMA because it is too restrictive. I dislike AAC for exactly the same reason. All of my music is in MP3 format for maximum flexibility.

Care to explain why and how a self-ripped ACC is more restrictive than MP3 ?

And yes, I know, your are probably talking about online purchases of music. So where are the stores where you can legally buy unrestricted MP3's ? Please don't come me with AllofMP3...

-t

[Big Mac]

I think he means that AAC is not playable on devices other than the iPod or software other than iTunes. That doesn't matter to me, but it may be a concern to some. But, back on topic, this article is gold. "It shows how their backs are against the wall.... Even though it's Microsoft, no one is interested in what we have to offer, even our own employees." How SWEET!

[OB1]

Originally posted by turtle777:
That would be the "normal" state of yours, working for M$ anyways...

-t

Luckily, I work for myself and only use Macs, so my blood is usually at normal temperature...

[OB1]

Originally posted by voodoo:
Normally yes, but not if you're from the USA. Then you could be fired. No questions asked.

"John, you use an iPod right?"

"Yeah? What about it?"

"Clean up your desk and be gone by tomorrow. Thanks."

Yes land of the free indeed. Watch out people

Please tell me this isn't true. Do people in the USA really work under these conditions? Can you really be fired on someone's whim like this??

[el chupacabra]

Originally posted by OB1:
If I received a memo telling me what personal music player to use my blood would be boiling.

they arn't telling you what player to use just what they don't want to see you using at work; which is in their right, it is after all their company, their property.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by OB1:
Please tell me this isn't true. Do people in the USA really work under these conditions? Can you really be fired on someone's whim like this??

Yes, it is true. Most are "employees-at-will", meaning that there is not contract, and that they can be fired for no or any reason. There are only a few things that would make a termination illegal, like firing someone for race, color, religion and so forth. But basically, as an employee, you have no or very limited rights.

But consider the advantages: many people get 10 or even 12 days paid vacation per year.
(As compared to skimpy 25-30, like in Germany )

-t

[OB1]

Originally posted by turtle777:
So where are the stores where you can legally buy unrestricted MP3's ? Please don't come me with AllofMP3...

-t

Bleep

[Big Mac]

Sure, you can be fired on the spot without much cause. The employer can make up an excuse. On the bright side they usually have to pay unemployment benefits for awhile. Employment is based on the exchange of a desired level of productivity for wages, and if an employer no longer desires that exchange he or she may fire as he pleases. If the employee is no longer satisfied, he or she may quit. One wonders what kinds of hoops English employers must jump through in order to exercise the same prerogative.

[OB1]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
they arn't telling you what player to use just what they don't want to see you using at work; which is in their right, it is after all their company, their property.

It's pathetic. Stand up!

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

"Note that the entire thing_is based on an interview with one �high-level [Microsoft] manager who asked to remain anonymous.� From this one source, we are able to calculate with confidence that 16,000 employees at Microsoft�s Redmond campus own iPods and that management is ready to send teams of security guards out to locate anyone wearing white earbuds and send them to a re-education camp.

Well, having spent a fair amount of time around Microsoft�s campus, I can tell you that this story is mostly � what�s the word I�m looking for here? Ah yes, ********. I have no doubt that lots of Microsoft employees own iPods. But taking an offhand remark from an unknown source (who may or may not have a hidden agenda and who may or may not know what he�s talking about) and extrapolating it to the entire campus is just silly."

http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000431.html

[OB1]

Originally posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker:
management is ready to send teams of security guards out to locate anyone wearing white earbuds and send them to a re-education camp.

Well, that's fair enough though isn't it?

[turtle777]

Originally posted by OB1:
Bleep

Don't have a lot of the older stuff.
There are only TWO (!!!) tracks from Kruder & Dorfmeister.
Seems like K7 doesn't want to sell their own stuff through bleep...

-t

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Care to explain why and how a self-ripped ACC is more restrictive than MP3 ?

And yes, I know, your are probably talking about online purchases of music. So where are the stores where you can legally buy unrestricted MP3's ? Please don't come me with AllofMP3...

-t

Originally posted by Big Mac:
I think he means that AAC is not playable on devices other than the iPod or software other than iTunes.

Both are what I mean. I use my music in my iPod, home stereo and car stereo. Two of the three don't read AAC.

I also don't purchase music online because of the inherent restrictions of doing so. All of my purchased music is done so in CD. Other music in my collection is acquired from close friends, coworkers and P2P (sharing music online in currently legal in Canada), or public library.

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by el chupacabra:
they arn't telling you what player to use just what they don't want to see you using at work; which is in their right, it is after all their company, their property.

Exactly. How many Ford sales people drive Chryslers to work? How many Microsoft ergonomic keyboards can be found in Apple's offices?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by turtle777:


Don't have a lot of the older stuff.
There are only TWO (!!!) tracks from Kruder & Dorfmeister.
Seems like K7 doesn't want to sell their own stuff through bleep...

-t

As opposed to the FOUR Kruder $ Dorfmeister tracks at ITMS?

[Goldfinger]

Originally posted by OB1:
Please tell me this isn't true. Do people in the USA really work under these conditions? Can you really be fired on someone's whim like this??

Sad, isn't it ?

[turtle777]

Originally posted by Wiskedjak:
As opposed to the FOUR Kruder $ Dorfmeister tracks at ITMS?

They have FIVE !
Hey, that's more than DOUBLE !

-t

[OB1]

Originally posted by Big Mac:
Sure, you can be fired on the spot without much cause. The employer can make up an excuse. On the bright side they usually have to pay unemployment benefits for awhile. Employment is based on the exchange of a desired level of productivity for wages, and if an employer no longer desires that exchange he or she may fire as he pleases. If the employee is no longer satisfied, he or she may quit. One wonders what kinds of hoops English employers must jump through in order to exercise the same prerogative.

I'm guessing you're an employer yourself? I've never heard too many complaints about the current state of our employment laws. They're more about protecting an individuals right not to have their lives played with. Imagine you moved your family across the country for a new job only to have someone take a dislike to your face on your first day?

[Wiskedjak]

Originally posted by turtle777:
They have FIVE !
Hey, that's more than DOUBLE !

-t

[NYCFarmboy]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Yes, it is true. Most are "employees-at-will", meaning that there is not contract, and that they can be fired for no or any reason. There are only a few things that would make a termination illegal, like firing someone for race, color, religion and so forth. But basically, as an employee, you have no or very limited rights.

But consider the advantages: many people get 10 or even 12 days paid vacation per year.
(As compared to skimpy 25-30, like in Germany )

-t

good luck finding a job in Germany..The German unemployment rate is over 12%.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=244012

[turtle777]

Originally posted by NYCFarmboy:
good luck finding a job in Germany..The German unemployment rate is over 12%.

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=244012

Ah, well. That just depends. I work for a large German company, so I could find a job with them back in Germany in a heartbeat. But in general, you are right...

-t

[Seattle]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Yes, it is true. Most are "employees-at-will", meaning that there is not contract, and that they can be fired for no or any reason. There are only a few things that would make a termination illegal, like firing someone for race, color, religion and so forth. But basically, as an employee, you have no or very limited rights.

But consider the advantages: many people get 10 or even 12 days paid vacation per year.
(As compared to skimpy 25-30, like in Germany )

-t

I think iPods are close to a religion.

[Apple Pro Underwear]

it's not cool to blow up a fellow iPod user's spot

[itistoday]

Originally posted by Seattle:
I think iPods are close to a religion.

I think someone wants an iPod...

[paully dub]

Originally posted by turtle777:
Ah, well. That just depends. I work for a large German company, so I could find a job with them back in Germany in a heartbeat. But in general, you are right...

-t

wait a minute - you actually work for a living?

[Seattle]

Originally posted by itistoday:
I think someone wants an iPod...

I got my shuffle last week. I think I will buy some more and give them to my friends that work at Microsoft.

[turtle777]

Originally posted by paully dub:
wait a minute - you actually work for a living?

Better than living for work

-t

[fhoubi]

Found on /., these are not mine, but quite hilarious:

Pic1
Pic2

[Mafia]

Originally posted by fhoubi:
Found on /., these are not mine, but quite hilarious:

Pic1
Pic2

man ir eally wish these pictures would just GO AWAY!!

[Eug Wanker]

[V12]

Steve Jobs: +1

[Buckaroo]

Here is an interesting comparison concerning the Napster service.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02...pster_go_away/