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Aug 16, 2017, 01:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by OreoCookie View Post
Are you really that weak that you get distracted by that and can't control yourself?
He didn't say that.

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If you can't do your job when an attractive woman (or even just parts of one) are around
He didn't say that.
     
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Aug 16, 2017, 01:48 PM
 
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We don't tend to ever say that though, do we? When was the last time you heard someone accused of weaponising something that wasn't either sex or a biological agent in a bad movie?
I weaponize my kind smile, firm handshake, and technical competence.
     
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Aug 16, 2017, 02:02 PM
 
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Who's the SJW now?
I've always said I support second wave feminism, where you been? Women, as men, should be allowed to dress how they like w/o being harassed or looked down upon for it. As weather permits, the more exposed breasts the better, IFAIC. Everyone's happier for it.
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Aug 16, 2017, 05:39 PM
 
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But it stands to reason that you will behave similarly in similar situations involving other women. I find it immature that you view the interaction between men and women through the lens of whether this person might be a potential mate. I know we are all wired this way, but our brains are computers and we can update our software. Once you achieve this, it really changes your life and especially the life of women you meet professionally.
This situation was dissimilar to the norm. Specifically, the entire length of our working relationship lasted under five hours.

We're this not the case, I'd have put in the effort.
     
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Aug 16, 2017, 07:13 PM
 
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I weaponize my kind smile, firm handshake, and technical competence.
So anything that helps you to succeed or advance your cause is something you've weaponised? Is all success necessarily characterised as a fight that requires (or is aided by) weapons?
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Aug 16, 2017, 09:48 PM
 
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... you're fine w/ nudity and don't relate it to sex, so you then boldly proclaim a particular woman can't be physically attractive to you, sight unseen, [...]
That's why I wrote “the woman you have described” rather than “the woman”.
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[...] because you've heard she has a proclivity to wear semi-open blouses and tight jeans on sales calls?
No, because of the $3k handbag – blingy women aren't my thing.
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Aug 16, 2017, 11:03 PM
 
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No, because of the $3k handbag – blingy women aren't my thing.
Is there truth to there rumor there's a teenage girl, old man, Louis Vuitton handbag thing in Japan?
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 02:33 AM
 
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Is there truth to there rumor there's a teenage girl, old man, Louis Vuitton handbag thing in Japan?
Yeah, but my wife isn't into that (fortunately for me and my wallet). She prefers tech stuff. (She wanted a new iPad Pro rather than a wedding band.)
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Aug 17, 2017, 03:44 AM
 
^^ That's what she said, but in reality she wanted both.
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Aug 17, 2017, 09:34 AM
 
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No, because of the $3k handbag – blingy women aren't my thing.
My impression is that there's a bell curve to these things. When they get kind of expensive they get blingy, so that poor people will see the bling and be impressed. See all of the Coach and MK purses with the huge gauche lettering. Once you get to a certain price point, the blingyness goes away and you're left with something that's extremely stylish and well-designed, but subtle, enough that only other rich people would recognize it.

A $3000 purse isn't necessarily blingy.
     
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Yeah, but my wife isn't into that (fortunately for me and my wallet). She prefers tech stuff. (She wanted a new iPad Pro rather than a wedding band.)
I'm also presuming your wife isn't a teenager.
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 10:49 AM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
Once you get to a certain price point, the blingyness goes away and you're left with something that's extremely stylish and well-designed, but subtle, enough that only other rich people would recognize it.

A $3000 purse isn't necessarily blingy.
I guess so, and I wouldn't be surprised if I couldn't tell the difference. (If it were Deuter backpacks on the other hand …) I was just going off CPT's cues and created a character in my head, and when he wrote $3k handbag, my mind pasted in something blingy.
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I'm also presuming your wife isn't a teenager.
Nope, we were both in our early 30s when we got married.
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Aug 17, 2017, 11:51 AM
 
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If you can't do your job when an attractive woman (or even just parts of one) are around, you make yourself sound like a horny teenager. You probably ought to be able to handle this sort of thing without alienating or offending anyone by now, don't you think?
I did do my job, though.

And of course I can handle it. Which is what I do when confronted with having to work with someone for more than a few hours.
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 01:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by Waragainstsleep View Post
We don't tend to ever say that though, do we? When was the last time you heard someone accused of weaponising something that wasn't either sex or a biological agent in a bad movie?
Just because we don't say it doesn't mean it's not there. Getting a job or moving up the chain in your current one requires you to compete with your peers. Any advantage you give yourself is "weaponizing" the attribute or factor that you manipulate to your advantage. Your peers, vying for the same job, do the same.
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 01:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
My impression is that there's a bell curve to these things. When they get kind of expensive they get blingy, so that poor people will see the bling and be impressed. See all of the Coach and MK purses with the huge gauche lettering. Once you get to a certain price point, the blingyness goes away and you're left with something that's extremely stylish and well-designed, but subtle, enough that only other rich people would recognize it.

A $3000 purse isn't necessarily blingy.
Correct. It isn't blingy, here's a link, so that everyone can get familiar with the subject, if necssary. It has a small Hermes logo, but otherwise looks understated. However, if you know what to look for you realize that it's quite expensive. Heck, they go up to $40k, or more, where they get slightly more blingy. So it's like a bell curve, but at the very tail end the bling factor starts to climb again.

I think it's silly, but then, I'm into European sports cars, so I can't call other people's tastes excessive, Lancia headrests are nearly as bad and are made of the same stuff.
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Aug 17, 2017, 02:44 PM
 
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Just because we don't say it doesn't mean it's not there. Getting a job or moving up the chain in your current one requires you to compete with your peers. Any advantage you give yourself is "weaponizing" the attribute or factor that you manipulate to your advantage. Your peers, vying for the same job, do the same.
But why do we only say it about women and their use of sex?
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 02:49 PM
 
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But why do we only say it about women and their use of sex?
Where is this going? I'm lost.
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 02:55 PM
 
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But why do we only say it about women and their use of sex?
A good question indeed. Perhaps because it's easier to identify or at least rightfully or wrongfully attribute to specific behavior?
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 06:38 PM
 
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Where is this going? I'm lost.
I guess I'm trying to work out if its a sexist thing to say or think or not.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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I guess I'm trying to work out if its a sexist thing to say or think or not.
Is it the name which is the objection?

I mean, is there a question sex is used to manipulate people?
     
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Aug 17, 2017, 10:21 PM
 
No, that definitely happens and its very much a one sided phenomenon. I guess "weaponising sex" sounds like a criticism of women using one of the few advantages they have always had over men in the workplace.
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Aug 17, 2017, 10:52 PM
 
Looking at it this way strikes me as at odds with the goal of equality.

That is, assuming we're not looking for separate but equal.
     
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I don't know if he's an idiot or just attention seeking.
     
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Sep 20, 2017, 08:07 PM
 
^^ Or you're so ideologically absorbed that you're unfit for contact with most other people? He's right, such titles, in a vacuum, are pretty entertaining. The fact you can't see that says more about you.
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In my mind, the title "Grand Wizard" is more appropriate for Gandalf than someone in the KKK.
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