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Feathers · 12:18 PM

Pretty self explanatory, I think!

Okay, I know I left out a "Laptop" option but the question really relates to whether when buying a desktop machine, you opted for an (expensive) Apple display or a third party device. I have provided the option for ticking more than one box though!

MilkmanDan · Nov 22, 2004, 12:06 PM

Missing option: Laptop LCD.

sideus · Nov 22, 2004, 12:07 PM

Laptop.

Eug Wanker · Nov 22, 2004, 12:10 PM

wdlove · Nov 22, 2004, 12:10 PM

I'm using an Apple 17" Cinema Display.

badidea · Nov 22, 2004, 12:26 PM

HP 21" - @home and @work

Cipher13 · Nov 22, 2004, 12:30 PM

Wow, Feathers - long time.

Welcome back to the fray.

I use a Graphite Apple 17" CRT on the G4 (the old-school graphite version of the smurf design), and a whole assortment of third party CRTs on the other machines... including an original old IBM that shipped with a PS/2 76.

I just use the built-in LCD on my iBook, no external.

Unfortunately, my 17" Graphite is starting to pop, so I may need a new monitor very soon... and I'm considering an LCD for the sake of my eyes (though I hate them... argh).

effgee · Nov 22, 2004, 12:39 PM

sony 18" x 2

Feathers · Nov 22, 2004, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Wow, Feathers - long time.

Welcome back to the fray.

Hey Cipher, over 10,000 posts? That's more than insane (or should I say "insasne"?)

GoGoReggieXPowars · Nov 22, 2004, 12:43 PM

I loves my 19" LaCie CRT at home.

Originally posted by Cipher13:
I'm considering an LCD for the sake of my eyes (though I hate them... argh).

Why do you hate LCDs? Just curious.

Sherwin · Nov 22, 2004, 12:49 PM

Cheapo 19" TFTs from Relisys, couple of iMacs, an eMac.

Feathers · Nov 22, 2004, 12:57 PM

I have:

iBook 800/G3 with "spanning" enabled.
Original Bondi-Blue iMac with Harmoni and Griffin iPort (mirroring but no spanning)
Formac ProNitron 22"/880 CRT (Still waiting for the G5 to connect it to)
7500/100 with a 13" Apple CRT Display
660AV with a 14" Apple CRT Display
2 x Classic II's 9" B&W CRT

Eriamjh · Nov 22, 2004, 12:59 PM

KDS VS-21e 21" CRT made in 1999, repaired in 2004 by me.

Zimphire · Nov 22, 2004, 01:11 PM

I still have my Mitzu 19" flatscreen CRT.

I love it .

Briareus · Nov 22, 2004, 01:14 PM

I picked up a 20" Cinema Display last week - upgrade from a 7 year old 17" Trinitron.

Rather nice upgrade

Luca Rescigno · Nov 22, 2004, 01:15 PM

Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
I loves my 19" LaCie CRT at home.

Why do you hate LCDs? Just curious.

Probably the same reasons as me... although I don't really HATE LCDs, I just don't think their advantages over CRTs are worth the price, especially given their numerous disadvantages.

They're sharper, easier on the eyes, and better for text. However, they have very poor contrast and color saturation compared to CRTs. They're getting better for sure - I used an older LCD a few days ago and it was far, far worse than the ones today. But they're still not as bright or contrasty as CRTs. If they cost the exact same as CRTs, maybe they'd be worth it, but they're a lot more expensive so I'll pass.

I use an NEC FE791SB, a 17" CRT, running at 1280x960 @ 85 Hz. It's a nice monitor but I'm feeling a bit cramped by it so I ordered an IBM C190 refurbished (thanks to Lateralus for pointing me to the $150 refurb deal!). I should be able to bump up the resolution a little on the new 19". At the very least it'll be more comfortable, even if I don't run it at a higher resolution.

mdc · Nov 22, 2004, 01:28 PM

15" powerbook

Timo · Nov 22, 2004, 01:43 PM

Originally posted by Cipher13:
Unfortunately, my 17" Graphite is starting to pop, so I may need a new monitor very soon... and I'm considering an LCD for the sake of my eyes (though I hate them... argh).

c'mon... try LCD ... you'll L O V E it ... give it a whirl ... your eyes will thank you ...
[/Mephistopheles]

Zimphire · Nov 22, 2004, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by Luca Rescigno:
Probably the same reasons as me... although I don't really HATE LCDs, I just don't think their advantages over CRTs are worth the price, especially given their numerous disadvantages.

They're sharper, easier on the eyes, and better for text. However, they have very poor contrast and color saturation compared to CRTs. They're getting better for sure - I used an older LCD a few days ago and it was far, far worse than the ones today. But they're still not as bright or contrasty as CRTs. If they cost the exact same as CRTs, maybe they'd be worth it, but they're a lot more expensive so I'll pass.

I use an NEC FE791SB, a 17" CRT, running at 1280x960 @ 85 Hz. It's a nice monitor but I'm feeling a bit cramped by it so I ordered an IBM C190 refurbished (thanks to Lateralus for pointing me to the $150 refurb deal!). I should be able to bump up the resolution a little on the new 19". At the very least it'll be more comfortable, even if I don't run it at a higher resolution.

Same reasons I am still using a CRT. LCD just isn't there yet. Esp for the price.

I have a FE950+ I run it at 1600x1200

Sherwin · Nov 22, 2004, 01:57 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
I have a FE950+ I run it at 1600x1200

Those are sweet things (I specced one for the old man). Pain in the butt doing the config on them though (one of two reasons why I like TFTs - the other being space and weight).

AlfaMunky · Nov 22, 2004, 02:01 PM

I got a huge (both in screen size and footprint)Sony Trinitron 21" CRT. Thinking of geting a decent 19" 1600x1200 LCD when the prices come down.

Randman · Nov 22, 2004, 02:37 PM

Who needs an external with a PB17?

Zimphire · Nov 22, 2004, 02:39 PM

Prepare to be tookinated.

phoenixboy70 · Nov 22, 2004, 02:43 PM

+

Webscreamer · Nov 22, 2004, 02:43 PM

Samsung SyncMaster 955DF. CRTs are great for graphic design.

...and in my budget.

Randman · Nov 22, 2004, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Prepare to be tookinated.

Nope, not this time.

While an interesting thread, I would think there's going to be a very high number of PowerBook and iBook users who can't vote.

dav · Nov 22, 2004, 02:49 PM

latest iteration of apple's 20" lcd.

PacHead · Nov 22, 2004, 02:56 PM

Powermac > Viewsonic 19" G90fb CRT
Pismo > laptop screen > JVC 32" TV

No LCD's for me, until I am able to get the 30" one that apple has.

LCD's used to have crappy latency, I hear that's been improving alot.

Xeo · Nov 22, 2004, 02:57 PM

iBook + 15" B&W Apple LCD. Spanning mode, of course.

Originally posted by PacHead:
LCD's used to have crappy latency, I hear that's been improving alot.

Latency issues? Since when?

chris v · Nov 22, 2004, 03:08 PM

Can't do critical color work on LCDs. I've gone all LaCie Electron Blue 19" for all my machines, except the Powerbook.

Feathers · Nov 22, 2004, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Randman:
While an interesting thread, I would think there's going to be a very high number of PowerBook and iBook users who can't vote.

That's kind of the point. I was interested in desktop display choice. The ole' CRT vs LCD debate and Apple vs third parties.

ajprice · Nov 22, 2004, 03:26 PM

Sony HMD-A220 17" CRT

At the time I bought my G4, the Apple options were the 17" CRT with the clear back and the moebus (sp?) loop base which was a bit over my budget, or a flat screen which was way over my budget. I went for the Sony because it was silver, like my G4

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Luca Rescigno · Nov 22, 2004, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by AlfaMunky:
Thinking of geting a decent 19" 1600x1200 LCD when the prices come down.

There's no such thing. All 19" LCDs are 1280x1024. If you want 1600x1200 you have to go 20". Dell actually makes a pair of really nice 20" LCDs, the 2001FP (1600x1200) and the 2005FPW (1680x1050). The 2001FP is sometimes on sale for as little as $599, which is an EXCELLENT deal. That's not too much more expensive than a high quality 21" CRT.

Link · Nov 22, 2004, 03:44 PM

I love it when people say they need *PERFECT* color to work with a cheap camera and a 20 year old printer for a newspaper that has a userbase of less than 50k.

I've got a 22" cinema display. -- used to have a trinitron and a few regular boob-tubes before that, pretty much all but 2 are gone now because they were wearing out, the good one my bro has and the crap 14" is on my p166 box.

No other monitors

dillerX · Nov 22, 2004, 06:09 PM

2X Apple 17" displays.

PacHead · Nov 22, 2004, 06:15 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
iBook + 15" B&W Apple LCD. Spanning mode, of course.

Latency issues? Since when?

I don't know how true it is, since I've never really had an LCD, besides the one I use on my powerbook, but I've heard alot about certain LCD's not being fast enough for games, if one is particularly picky.

Kenneth · Nov 22, 2004, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
I'm using an Apple 17" Cinema Display.

Same here.. Apple 17" Studio Display LCD with silver logo.

Lateralus · Nov 22, 2004, 06:24 PM

My IBM ThinkVision C190 CRT should be getting here tomorrow.

Meow...

SamuraiDL · Nov 22, 2004, 06:29 PM

apple brand LCD's are worth there weight in gold!

TailsToo · 11:09 AM

20" Cinema

best display ever!

scottiB · Nov 22, 2004, 07:51 PM

Feathers · Nov 23, 2004, 04:22 PM

This is a gratuitous +1 to get this poll back up the list!

Kilbey · Nov 24, 2004, 01:05 AM

Apple eMac CRT 17"

Buckaroo · Nov 24, 2004, 01:36 AM

LCD to the max.

http://home.earthlink.net/~spacebuck...s/desk4a2.JPEG

Xeo · Nov 24, 2004, 01:42 AM

Originally posted by Buckaroo:
LCD to the max.

http://home.earthlink.net/~spacebuck...s/desk4a2.JPEG

Coool. What do you do? Some kind of television something or other? Cable station?

Lancer409 · Nov 24, 2004, 01:54 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Coool. What do you do? Some kind of television something or other? Cable station?

He's recreating the Matrix Experience.

Mine - Fe991SB hope this pix isnt too big.

my setup

Buckaroo · Nov 24, 2004, 02:03 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Coool. What do you do? Some kind of television something or other? Cable station?

No, it's in my apartment. I am currently working on making aluminum panels to cover up the gaps. I bought some 1/8" thick aluminum sheet and I am machining it to cover the gaps. I'm going to add blinky LED's and switches to make it look really cool.

Sandbaggins · Nov 24, 2004, 06:45 AM

15" Powerbook and 15 inch LCD iMac.

Love both.

lil'babykitten · Nov 24, 2004, 08:30 AM

23" Apple LCD and 17" Apple CRT

Feathers · Nov 24, 2004, 03:45 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
23" Apple LCD and 17" Apple CRT

Sweet and neat!

I also notice that a lot of the Non-Apple displays (CRT & LCD) are NEC/Mitsubishi bearing in mind that Formac and LaCie also use NEC tubes. Those DiamondTrons are bright!