[cashsixT8]

Think of this: I move to Africa, and gain citizenship there. Live there for a few years, go to school, whatever. Then, I reapply for US citizenship.

Would I become an african american? I mean, technically, I would be, right? So would I be entitled to minority status and stuff?

Just wondering, cuz that would be awesome! I'd get all the benefits of being a minority in our society!

- Ca$h

PS: Is this possible?

[SpYn]

another gringo wanting to be black...

[jarends]

Don't you have an American birth certificate?

No go my friend.

[The Godfather]

That's the most creative thing I've heard in a long time.

You should consider not just Africa, but also China, Korea, Iraq and Afghanistan, and then GO FOR IT!!!

[parallax]

Ahem.

African American also Af-ri-can--A-mer-i-can (af'ri-ken-e-mer'i-ken)
n.

A Black American of African ancestry.

[CityGuy2003]

i wasnt aware that you had to be a certain race to be an african american....there are many white people from south africa, zimbabwe, etc who become american citizens....that would make them african american too!

[cashsixT8]

So if you're a black person from South America and you come to the US you aren't considered an african american?

See, if they'd just throw out all the politcally correct BULL****, and call black people BLACK PEOPLE and call white people WHITE PEOPLE, then people like me (smartasses) wouldn't come up with crazy schemes like this.

- Ca$h <---100% french-irish-german-polish-euro-american

[ort888]

Only a white kid from the suburbs would want "all the benefits" of being an African-American.

[cpatubo]

But who doesn't want to be... Afroken?



[ 08-13-2001: Message edited by: cpatubo ]

[scaught]

Originally posted by ort888:
<STRONG>Only a white kid from the suburbs would want "all the benefits" of being an African-American.</STRONG>

hahahha. well said.

[Kozmik]

Yeah right. UNCF, Affirmative Action... who the hell WOULDN'T want that kind of stuff just because of where their ancestors are traced back to, or something ridiculously superficial like the color of their skin?

[gumby5647]

have you been drinking again ca$h?

[cashsixT8]

Originally posted by Kozmik:
<STRONG>Yeah right. UNCF, Affirmative Action... who the hell WOULDN'T want that kind of stuff just because of where their ancestors are traced back to, or something ridiculously superficial like the color of their skin?</STRONG>

Exactly! Think about it! I could be doing a shitty job at whatever, have crappier grades, and just generally be DUMBER, and just because of the fact that I'd be a legit "african american" I'd be ahead of all you white ****ers!



That'd rule!

- Ca$h

[cpatubo]

Dude, that was totally uncool.

[Kozmik]

I actually think Affirmative Action and the similar crap is actually more racist than not having it. So because someone has a slightly darker shade of skin it means they're inferior? It must, because otherwise they would not need the help of Affirmative Action and whatnot. So now people who are white have to score higher on SATs, have to look harder to find financial aid, have to be more qualified than minority applicants to find jobs, and we call it racial equality.

Who knew the amount of melatonin in one's skin could make them so incredibly different from someone with a different amount of melatonin in their skin? I have black hair and brown eyes. I think I should get some kind of break on college tuition or be considered over others for jobs!

Sorry if this is a somewhat incoherent rant. I do have well-formed opinions, but I don't always get them across well. I sound racist in some ways only because I'm more of an advocate than most for true racial equality, in that no one should be favored over anyone else because of something superficial like the color of their skin. I mean, think about it. How ridiculous is it to judge people by the color of their skin? That is still what's happening, only differently. MLK Jr.'s famous quote about his children living in a nation where they're judged by the content of their character, not by the color of their skin, is not what is playing out in our society. MLK Jr.'s dream has not come true, and with the pride, ignorance, and general idiocy of the majority of the society in the United States, I don't think it ever will.

[Scott_H]

I have a simpler solution Ca$h.

I went to school in Virginia which has a lot of Historically Black Colleges (HBC). The rumor was that because the % of white kids as the HBC were so low that you could get finantial aid to go to school there. Because, after all, white kids are the minority there and god knows it the duty of the Government to promote "diversity". I don't know if this is true or anyone who did this but maybe you'll be the first.

So just apply to Howard (or any of the others). What's your GPA and SAT? I don't know if you can get in

[foobars]

Originally posted by Kozmik:
<STRONG>Who knew the amount of melatonin in one's skin could make them so incredibly different from someone with a different amount of melatonin in their skin? I have black hair and brown eyes. I think I should get some kind of break on college tuition or be considered over others for jobs!</STRONG>

The point of affirmative-action and programs like it is not to put under qualified minorities into places they don�t deserve to be. Rather, it is meant to provide opportunities to people who haven't had the benefit of being in the majority and are therefore subject to racism and other forms of xenophobia. If the standards for these people are slightly lower its because these programs are still relatively new and have not had a chance to effect the next-generation of minorities (children of the minorities benefiting). Once more people have had access to higher education and high-paying jobs their children will have the skills necessary to compete with white kids who have had the benefit of better schools and more money all along.

Kozmik makes a good point- benefits based on skin color is itself a form of racism but then again the diversity just isn't there in the higher paying jobs and upper ecilons of education. You gotta break some eggs to make an omelet.

[San Acoustic]

Screw it. What's the point.

[ 08-17-2001: Message edited by: San Acoustic ]

[Avenir]

afirmative action = 25% good intention / 75% bad result

[lothar56]

cash you're stupid

[cashsixT8]

I know you are but what am I? (this is the lamest response I could come up with, I found it suiting the equally lame response by Luther)

- Ca$h

[daimoni]

Originally posted by Kozmik:
<STRONG>
Who knew the amount of melatonin in one's skin could make them so incredibly different from someone with a different amount of melatonin in their skin? I have black hair and brown eyes. I think I should get some kind of break on college tuition or be considered over others for jobs!
</STRONG>

I'm sorry, but I want to make sure we're all talking about the right thing:

it's

mel�a�nin [m�llnin ] noun
brown skin pigment:� a dark brown or black pigment that is naturally present to varying degrees in the skin, hair, eyes, fur, or feathers of people and animals as well as in plants

not

mel�a�to�nin [m�l tnin ] noun
color-changing hormone:� a hormone derived from serotonin and secreted by the pineal gland that produces changes in the skin color of vertebrates, reptiles, and amphibians and is important in regulating biorhythms

which is from...

se�ro�to�nin [s�rr tnin ] noun
neurotransmitter chemical:� a chemical derived from the amino acid tryptophan, and widely distributed in tissues. It acts as a neurotransmitter, constricts blood vessels at injury sites, and may affect emotional states. �LSD and certain antidepressants work by interfering with serotonin in the brain.

Not that cashie has much of any of this stuff.

I would love to see him walk in to Howard University and ask for an application. If he could get in there, I think he would actually learn a little about the rest of the world.

[Xeo]

Originally posted by lothar56:
<STRONG>cash you're stupid</STRONG>

No really, Cash... you are.

[Demonhood]

hehe, good catch daimoni.

when I read Kozmik's post, i looked over at my bottle of melatonin* pills and started wondering why my skin hadn't gotten any darker

*melatonin plays a role in sleep, aging, and reproduction in mammals. people basically take the pills to help them sleep. they also make your dreams pretty interesting. i recommend them.

[AlbertWu]

so THAT's where you get the inspiration for your graphics design

(j/k)

[Kozmik]

Sorry daimoni... too many damn things sound the same. You know what I mean though.

[cashsixT8]

Originally posted by daimoni:
<STRONG>

I'm sorry, but I want to make sure we're all talking about the right thing:

it's

mel�a�nin [m�llnin ] noun
brown skin pigment:� a dark brown or black pigment that is naturally present to varying degrees in the skin, hair, eyes, fur, or feathers of people and animals as well as in plants

not

mel�a�to�nin [m�l tnin ] noun
color-changing hormone:� a hormone derived from serotonin and secreted by the pineal gland that produces changes in the skin color of vertebrates, reptiles, and amphibians and is important in regulating biorhythms

which is from...

se�ro�to�nin [s�rr tnin ] noun
neurotransmitter chemical:� a chemical derived from the amino acid tryptophan, and widely distributed in tissues. It acts as a neurotransmitter, constricts blood vessels at injury sites, and may affect emotional states. �LSD and certain antidepressants work by interfering with serotonin in the brain.

Not that cashie has much of any of this stuff.

I would love to see him walk in to Howard University and ask for an application. If he could get in there, I think he would actually learn a little about the rest of the world.</STRONG>

Exactly my point. I could be DUMBER than you, and if I was 'african american' I'd have a much better chance at getting in. That'd be sweet. FYI: I have an ACT of 29 (blah) and I score in the 99th and 98th percentile of every subject, except grammar. So, I'm not the moron you think I am.

- Ca$h

[Ruddigger]

I'm down as a hispanic on my birth certificate, but I'm the whitest looking mofo you'll ever meet. I guess I'm what Ca$h wants to be. White, with affirmative action on my side

[cashsixT8]

Originally posted by Ruddigger:
<STRONG>I'm down as a hispanic on my birth certificate, but I'm the whitest looking mofo you'll ever meet. I guess I'm what Ca$h wants to be. White, with affirmative action on my side </STRONG>

Bastard!

[Ruddigger]

Hehe, my sister won some scholastic award for hispanics, and she wouldn't go to the assebly to recieve it, cause she's white as a paper plate in a blizzard...