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MAC Mini Monitor Dell or Apple?
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Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I'm looking for a decent 20"+ monitor for my MAC mini and the Dell e228wfp is tempting at $299CAN. However one review I read from a user stated they look terrible on a MAC? Any feedback is much appreciated. I love the Apple 20" LCD but ... pretty pricey at $799CAN.
Many thanks to all.
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Posting Junkie
Join Date: Jun 2002
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It's unlikely that any monitor which looks good on a PC will look terrible on a Mac ... unless by "look" they mean aesthetics. If $'s are more important to you than aesthetics, get the Dell.
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I'd get a Dell...Keep an eye on the coupon sites. Dell sales stunk this year, so after Christmas sales are on the way. I've owned a 20.1" wide screen Dell for 2 years now...no dead pixels and no problems whatsoever. Screen is precise, but not as bright as an Apple product. But, you'll save $$$ with the Dell. Don't recommend a warranty longer than a 3 year. Why? These monitors are dropping so fast in price, if it breaks buy another...plus, today's 20" (pricewise) will be tomorrow's 30".
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Professional Poster
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Smallish town in Ohio
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It's Mac not MAC
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Antonio TX USA
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Go for features versus price. Remember that Apple does not create every component of ANY product it sells, and LCDs are a BIG area where almost nobody makes their own. Both Dell and Apple buy LCD screens and put them into their own cases with their own tweaks and drivers. As long as you don't get some way under spec'ed, low-resolution monitor, it won't look bad at all. I'd look at what my video card was capable of and get a monitor to match, and ignore the brand on the case.
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Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
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Clinically Insane
Join Date: Jun 2001
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Dell. No way the Apple monitor is worth the extra 500 bucks.
As long as you use DVI, you shouldn't see any big difference.
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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I would say get the DELL monitor and you won't regret the $$ you spent. I got the same monitor and it's awesome.
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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It seems that my low-key endorsement of Dell was too low key. Apple charges a premium for their displays, and often that extra cost is for cool styling. Given the limitations of my Dell FP171 (much lower resolution than my MBP), it looks fine when I plug the MBP into it. It's odd switching to a non-widescreen display, but it still looks good.
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Glenn -----OTR/L, MOT, Tx
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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The Dell 2007WFP is a rather awesome 20" widescreen if you ask me. Looks awesome and is only $359 right now! I wouldn't pay more for the Apple one.
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I have a Dell 24" that I have been quite happy with. I really like having the card reader slots on the side and use the extra USB ports too.
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I actually purchased the Dell e228wfp as a potential replacement for my Apple 20" Cinema Display. I was curious as to what you could get for under $300, and how well it would perform versus a monitor that costs more than twice as much. I connected the Dell e228wfp to my MacBook, which I believe has the Intel GMA 950 integrated graphics (I was also thinking about using the new Dell monitor on my Mac Mini).
After I setup the e228wfp on my MacBook, one thing became very apparent, the Dell is an inferior display when compared to the Cinema Display. Text/fonts were a bit fuzzy, color gradients were not pronounced, and frankly after spending half a day trying to adjust the display settings, I gave up and went back to the Cinema Display. This was not a huge surprise, but I frankly expected a bit more out of the e228wfp given that its specs are very similar to the Cinema Display.
The Dell was overly bright (I tried several adjustments based on recommendations I found on the web - use factory settings, change colors to 100% each, try Brightness Control from splasm, tried to calibrate myself, etc). Nothing seemed to get me close to the quality of the Cinema Display.
I then installed the Dell e228wfp on a PC running XP, and it looked great. the 23" widescreen looks really nice on PC. I don't want to paint an entirely negatively picture of the e228wfp on a Mac, as I would give the monitor a B- rating when compared to the Cineman Display. If your looking for a good (but not great monitor) for your Mac, then the Dell is a decent choice.
Happy hunting !
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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mossvine, basing an overall assessment of "Dell monitors" on ONE purchase is disingenuous. I have two Dells right now, and the one I'm looking at works great as an external monitor for my MacBook Pro. I have yet to see a "fuzzy" Dell monitor that was run at its native resolution. And most of what I read about the E228WFP is that it is an "entry" level widescreen monitor, hardly something to compare to Apple's Cinema Displays.
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Posting Junkie
Join Date: Oct 2005
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Are you using the e228wfp on DVI or VGA?
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The Dell monitor for the price is a great addition to the Mini.
However regardless of the brand, make sure you use DVI. An LCD without DVI is not worth the investment.
My personal experience is using the Dell 2405 with the Mini and I am very happy with the results.
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I was merely comparing the Dell e228wfp to the 20" Cinema Display (i buy tons of Dell - with Dell monitors - for my office ... )
I used the DVI cable to connect the MacBook to the e228wfp (did not try the VGA cable).
I ran across this review recently, and it's worth reading if you are in the market for a Mac Display,
http://www.anandtech.com/displays/showdoc.aspx?i=2400 . The review compares the 20" Cinema Display to the Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW (the latest rev at Dell is 2007FPW). They both use the same Phillips LCD panel, and the article does a good job of comparing the two, basically saying go with the Dell b/c it's cheaper (it's under $400). It's interesting in that the Apple Cinema Displays have less circuitry than the Dell, but are essentially twice the price.
I've offloaded the e228wfp to my brother, so it found a happy (Windows) home.
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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The Dell 20" and the Apple 20" use EXACTLY the same screen, and the Dell is wayyyyy cheaper. I'll let you decide...
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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I upgraded my Apple 20" to a Dell 24" for about the same price (sold the Apple on ebay, and the difference was like $20) and it's great - I just don't look down at the bezel too much.
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if the Mac Cinema Display uses the same screen why are the specs different?
response time, dot pitch, contrast ratio, etc.
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Join Date: May 1999
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I have a 1.8ghz intel mini as " getting my feet wet" into intel mac. I look at umpteen # of 20+" monitor and decided on ACD 20" for the following reasons:
1) It is made for mac.
2) Extra fw ports which you will need for your mini. ( only one fw port and can not take expansion card)
3) Shop around and find the difference for that quality 1680x1050 diplay is <$100.
4) It simply looks great.
5) my 8 yo 23" ACD still in perfect condition.
6) DVI is the future not VGA or related crap.
Go with ACD you will not regret it.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jan 2005
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I'm rocking a few year old Dell UltraSharp 2001fp.
I don't get the widescreen love, but 1600x1200 is still cool.
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