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Tom C · Apr 15, 2005, 03:11 PM

Can you use Core Image's Image Units when running iPhoto '05 under Tiger?

(If you're not familiar with Image Units, see here:
http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/coreimage/
)

If not, I'm assuming that the main selling point of iLife '06/iPhoto '06 will be the ability to use Image Units...another excuse to get $70 out of us.

Chuckit · Apr 15, 2005, 03:17 PM

You do not use Image Units; programs do. If you're asking whether iPhoto '05 will gain the ability to do arbitrary transforms on Tiger: I doubt it. Though there's always hope for iPhoto '05.1, I guess.

mchladek · Apr 15, 2005, 03:18 PM

It will probably depend on how much Apple wants to alienate Adobe. Yes, iPhoto will probably never be a Photoshop-killer, but with the introduction of core image it could be a Photoshop Elements-killer. I don't know how popular Photoshop Elements is (I have it and really like it). But if it is a substantial portion of Adobe's income, Apple may not want to jeopardize their relationship.

On the other hand, until Apple implements layers into iPhoto, Adobe may have nothing to worry about.

Core image implementation with iPhoto would be neat.

Tom C · Apr 15, 2005, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

You do not use Image Units; programs do.

The various Image Units sounds a lot like plug-ins to me...halftones, blurs, etc. You may need a program to access the IUs, but it seems to me that they're meant to be used within a program just like a Photoshop plug-in...highlight the area to which you want to apply it, then select a plug-in (oops I mean IU) from the menu.

Chuckit · Apr 15, 2005, 03:26 PM

Even with the inclusion of filters in iPhoto, that's still not half of what Photoshop Elements does, is it?

azdude · Apr 15, 2005, 04:25 PM

I actually wouldn't be surprised if it's already in there.

iPhoto (editing especially) is terribly slow... perhaps there's unoptimized code in there for Panther (or non-core image) users now, and dormant CoreImage code in there ready for Tiger.

iPhoto's editing mode, with all its sliders and such, just seems to perfect a demo for core image to wait for the next version of iLife.

Someone watch MWSF '05 again (or WWDC '04?)... I *vaguely* recall a side comment about iPhoto & core image...

loren s · Apr 15, 2005, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by mchladek

It will probably depend on how much Apple wants to alienate Adobe. Yes, iPhoto will probably never be a Photoshop-killer, but with the introduction of core image it could be a Photoshop Elements-killer. I don't know how popular Photoshop Elements is (I have it and really like it). But if it is a substantial portion of Adobe's income, Apple may not want to jeopardize their relationship.

On the other hand, until Apple implements layers into iPhoto, Adobe may have nothing to worry about.

Core image implementation with iPhoto would be neat.

screw photoshop

if someone Apple or anyone can use core image to build a super fast photoshop killer more power to them! Apps have gotta get faster ideas flow way to fast to have to sit and wait for stupid old tech programs and destructive filters to render

Chuckit · Apr 15, 2005, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by Tom C

The various Image Units sounds a lot like plug-ins to me...halftones, blurs, etc. You may need a program to access the IUs, but it seems to me that they're meant to be used within a program just like a Photoshop plug-in...highlight the area to which you want to apply it, then select a plug-in (oops I mean IU) from the menu.

Image Units are plugins. They are meant to be used however programs want to use them. Manual image editing is one application. All the purdy Dashboard effects are another. To say they're "meant" for one of these uses and not others is a little short-sighted.

drissa · Nov 29, 2005, 12:02 PM

I just want to be able to scroll through more than 300 images on a Dual 2 with 2.5GB without iPhoto freezing!

JKT · Nov 29, 2005, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by mchladek

On the other hand, until Apple implements layers into iPhoto, Adobe may have nothing to worry about.

With Core Image, it isn't necessary to have layers. You can switch the various filters on and off at will - i.e. if you apply three filters in a sequence you can disable any one of the three without having to first disable the others. The filters are non-destructive until you save the final image. Have a play with Core Image Fun House (part of the developer tools) to see the potential.

What I doubt you will be able to do in iPhoto is copy and paste other images into a photo, select outlines and remove other image data etc, so a basic Photoshop it will never be.

Slightly OT, but another feature I would love to see added to iPhoto is the ability to stitch panoramas together.

Eug Wanker · Nov 29, 2005, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by mchladek

Core image implementation with iPhoto would be neat.

iPhoto already has Core Image-like functionality. iPhoto '06 is sure to get more of it too.

Mind you, iPhoto's competition is something like a cross between Adobe Photoshop Album and Adobe Photoshop Elements, not Photoshop.

And Aperture is built to work with Photoshop. It's not a competitor to Photoshop either.