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bOOzo · Nov 24, 2004, 07:44 AM

I'm making an update to Milk and I've sort of stumbled into a new direction.
There are a few buttons that really needs a good way to reflect a toggled state, like in iTunes when you press the Loop or Shuffle button, they start to glow blue. In the current version of Milk, the toggled state is reflected by the pressed buttons becoming darker and looking a bit more pressed in.
So what I've stumbled upon is the idea of adding a baby blue color as a selection/toggle color for Milk. The inspiration for this is Apple's iPod photo banner:

I'm not sure if this would go over well with Milk users, since Milk has always been white and gray. Although the theme would mostly still be white, and since the theme is a good match for the iPod look otherwise I thought it might be cool to have this baby blue color in it.
Or maybe the regular Milk and Milk Chrome versions could use this baby blue color and that the chocolate versions could use a black/grey selection.

Tell me what you think!

siMac · Nov 24, 2004, 07:55 AM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
Or maybe the regular Milk and Milk Chrome versions could use this baby blue color and that the chocolate versions could use a black/grey selection.

This is good news!

DigitalEl · Nov 24, 2004, 07:57 AM

I think it's your theme, Max and you should do what you deem best. You've earned that kind of respect.

That being said, thanks for asking. Your plan sounds great to me.

esXXI · Nov 24, 2004, 07:57 AM

I'm 99% sure it'd look gorgeous, one problem I had with milk is that it seemed very.. Well.. Very white. Even though that sounds daft, you have to tailor your icons and such to make it all fit. I think a splash a colour, even just as an option would be great and liven it all up..

Can we have a quick example? Can we? Huh, Mr. Rudberg?

bOOzo · Nov 24, 2004, 08:05 AM

Originally posted by esXXI:
Can we have a quick example? Can we? Huh, Mr. Rudberg?

Ok, sure.

I made this color a bit darker than in the banner, because the white text is a little hard to read otherwise.
This would be used for selection in lists, the sidebar selection, item info in the finder (the menus) and as a toggle color.

MacShodan · Nov 24, 2004, 08:08 AM

That looks absolutely awesome Max!

My 2 cents, go for it!!! :d

nooon · Nov 24, 2004, 08:45 AM

I'm pretty sure I'll be using the chocolate versions, so you can pretty much do what you want with the regular versions.

Looks good, though.

CreepingDeth · Nov 24, 2004, 09:06 AM

As long as it's a different flavor, like�I don't know�what would you call that flavor of milk? Cream?

Anyways, it looks great. Milk needs color like I need money.

Dave-o� · Nov 24, 2004, 09:21 AM

I think it's a well thought idea Max. I'm glad to see you looking at things for visual reference for your themes, this in my mind has always been one of your greatest strengths to your themes. I'll second the thought that you have earned the respect of most Apple users and you should proceed as you see fit.

Randman · Nov 24, 2004, 10:20 AM

It looks good, but it shouldn't be too blue as we already have Swiz' blue white-and-blue theme.

ARENA · Nov 24, 2004, 11:27 AM

(Y) I like baby blue!

Komisar · Nov 24, 2004, 11:45 AM

go for it max!

eyevaan · Nov 24, 2004, 11:53 AM

that is sweet the baby blue is nice and the bevels are clean. Nice changes.

I love the Milk themes but they were replaced by the 3nzo MOD because of my unhealthy attachment to the color blue. I suppose if you wanted to set the milk apart from other themes using bright colors for highlighting -

Use muted colors - like they had milk added to them...

But I have to agree with DigitalEl comments. Your work is awesome. We trust your creative edge.

silencedge · Nov 24, 2004, 11:57 AM

That's an awfully sweet combination. I'm sure to wait till this comes through.

Fusion · Nov 24, 2004, 12:39 PM

I love the white and gray though as well. Is it possible for you to update and just give it another version, say, iPod edition?

TheGUiTom · Nov 24, 2004, 12:50 PM

Oh, and Max, another idea.
I've always not-liked (

) the chrome Apple in the upperleft corner.
Maybe it's an idea to make it like the Milk buttons?

Jaos · Nov 24, 2004, 03:44 PM

That blue = awesome

gautch · Nov 24, 2004, 04:08 PM

I was trying to think of a name.. so i googled Blue Milk, and o got this: http://bluemilk.com/

I thought it was kinda funny.

haley · Nov 24, 2004, 05:31 PM

Wow, looks gorgeous

Maybe Skim Milk? Dunno...

That blue is the perfect color though. Kind of reminds me of some kind of birthday cupcake whipped icing or something. Frosty without being cold.

FB Eye · Nov 24, 2004, 09:03 PM

Why is it still being discussed and not released yet?

Just kidding Max, we missed you around here. Glad to see you back in action!!!

Btw, are you gonna be updating or enhancing Eylo anytime soon? People have talked about a dark/black variation of it, any chance on that?

Thanks!!! Looking forward to the Milk update

Makki · Nov 24, 2004, 09:11 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
Ok, sure.

I made this color a bit darker than in the banner, because the white text is a little hard to read otherwise.
This would be used for selection in lists, the sidebar selection, item info in the finder (the menus) and as a toggle color.

Max that is categoriclly amazing

I personally like that blue touch it looks really cool. I hope this is way it looks when you release it.

take care man

Makki

wigglywoo · Nov 25, 2004, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by Komisar:
go for it max!

Very nice.

Fonzie · Nov 25, 2004, 10:53 AM

Cool idea Max. Blue is the right color for this project.

TheSpaz · Nov 25, 2004, 11:44 AM

Sounds great Max! Glad to see you back!

bOOzo · Nov 25, 2004, 03:22 PM

Thanks for all the input people

I'm not exactly sure how I will go about it with variations, but there will be baby blue in the theme.

Originally posted by TheGUiTom:
Oh, and Max, another idea.
I've always not-liked () the chrome Apple in the upperleft corner.
Maybe it's an idea to make it like the Milk buttons?

Hmm.. I'll think about it.

Originally posted by FB Eye:
[snip]Btw, are you gonna be updating or enhancing Eylo anytime soon? People have talked about a dark/black variation of it, any chance on that?[snip]

I don't know, I haven't gotten that far yet. I'm going to update the themes sometime, but my pace is pretty slow. I thought about remaking EYLO based on the new HUD in Halo 2, but I'm not sure about that.

Makki · Nov 25, 2004, 03:29 PM

Thanks for the news Max you big themerholic you hehe

Makki

jwill · Nov 25, 2004, 11:09 PM

It's looking pretty good, Max :-)

mrfrost · Nov 26, 2004, 06:10 AM

As a fulltime milk user I can tell you that I love it!

nooon · Nov 26, 2004, 12:29 PM

BTW Max, I just discovered a bug in the old Milk-version.

I don't know if this has been reported before, but the problem occurs in the dropdown-menus in the Word 2004 preferences. The dropdowns just stay empty no matter what you choose.

I've tried with different themes, and this only happens in Milk.

Milk:

Aqua Extreme:

bOOzo · Nov 27, 2004, 08:24 AM

Originally posted by nooon:
BTW Max, I just discovered a bug in the old Milk-version.

I don't know if this has been reported before, but the problem occurs in the dropdown-menus in the Word 2004 preferences. The dropdowns just stay empty no matter what you choose.

I've tried with different themes, and this only happens in Milk.

Milk:

Aqua Extreme:

Thanks for the headsup, just checked that in my build and it's fixed already. Must be because I redid the text colors.

renn · Nov 27, 2004, 08:36 AM

a suggestion...

what goes really well and would seem to me like a nice update and renewal to the milk theme, which is amazing ofcourse, is something that the line of iMacs and iBooks went thorugh: they made em a bit glossier. I'd would personally love to see that so it can go really really well with an ibook g4 or an imac g5, or hell even the emac.

i found these buttons on the apple site that contain a similar milky yet glossy style:

click to make it bigger

cheers and good luck on the theme

MacMan4000 · Nov 27, 2004, 02:54 PM

Woah! I can't beleive this thread has been here so long and I never saw it!

I say Do It!

codywalton · Nov 27, 2004, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
I thought about remaking EYLO based on the new HUD in Halo 2, but I'm not sure about that.

Yes, yes please make that you're next project. EYLO2 would be awesome!

nooon · Dec 7, 2004, 09:53 AM

two weeks later..

any new reports on this?

bOOzo · Dec 7, 2004, 05:04 PM

It's almost finished, I only got the chocolate menus left to do. Then there is the possibility of making more variations, or not. However, I have my final driving test on thursday, and I'm really nervous and I find it hard to focus on something else right now.. So this will have to wait a bit longer.

nooon · Dec 8, 2004, 07:56 AM

Hehe. Ofcourse you must prioritize your driving test! It sucks to flunk a test you've paid alot of money to take.

Good luck tomorrow, man!

Seph · Dec 8, 2004, 02:15 PM

hehehe, i remember buying my drivers license in Colombia

Good luck

Gerrit Vanoppen · Dec 8, 2004, 02:45 PM

Max, in fact it's rather simple : just drive like you're making themes and all will be fine

bOOzo · Dec 10, 2004, 06:02 AM

Yeah, well, I flunked it. I did pretty good though and I'd like to try again as soon as possible, but now it seems there are no new times available until the 11th of January :/

I'm gonna see if I can finish the Milk update this weekend.

wagmedia · Dec 10, 2004, 11:57 AM

Originally posted by bOOzo:
Yeah, well, I flunked it. I did pretty good though and I'd like to try again as soon as possible, but now it seems there are no new times available until the 11th of January :/

I'm gonna see if I can finish the Milk update this weekend.

I failed it my first time too. Don't worry about it...you'll pass soon enough.