[djohnson]

Since Apple will be releasing new Macs soon and I am in the market to pickup one of the new machines, I would like peoples reaction from using a 2Ghz machine. Right now I am on a 466Mhz Beige G3... I need to know how the overall reaction of the GUI will "feel". While in Safari and I click on a tab, it takes a few seconds to switch, especially when loading pages. Now I know the dual machine will scream, but how fast does it really feel?

BTW, I am hoping for at least 2.4Ghz in the mid range!

[Altix]

It'll be much faster, far more responsive too. Safari though, and some other apps don't always seem to give the impression they are running under a G5.

You'll feel the difference though, for the better.

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Stepping out of character for a moment...

The benefits of a dual machine aren't that you will have mind blowing performance gains, but instead that you will be able to throw more concurrent tasks at your computer without feeling any slowdown.

While a Dual 2Ghz G5 is an effective 4Ghz combined, you won't get performance like that of a 4Ghz G5, you will instead get the performance of a 2Ghz G5, times two. So for any task that hits a ceiling at the 2Ghz marker, you can simply load more tasks like that with two processors, instead of one.

I'm hoping that makes sense.

And, stepping back into character: XENU IS NOT PLEASED.

[djohnson]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
Stepping out of character for a moment...

The benefits of a dual machine aren't that you will have mind blowing performance gains, but instead that you will be able to throw more concurrent tasks at your computer without feeling any slowdown.

While a Dual 2Ghz G5 is an effective 4Ghz combined, you won't get performance like that of a 4Ghz G5, you will instead get the performance of a 2Ghz G5, times two. So for any task that hits a ceiling at the 2Ghz marker, you can simply load more tasks like that with two processors, instead of one.

I'm hoping that makes sense.

And, stepping back into character: XENU IS NOT PLEASED.

Oh I know that it wont be a 4Ghz machine. I tend to run many things at the same time, including whatever is my latest project compiling in the background... I guess a better question would be:

When I have a project compiling in the background, seti@home running, dnetc running, Mail open, Safari open, Fire open, a handful of useful programs running, will the GUI still feel responsive?

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by djohnson:
When I have a project compiling in the background, seti@home running, dnetc running, Mail open, Safari open, Fire open, a handful of useful programs running, will the GUI still feel responsive?

A resounding yes.

As with any OS X machine, just make sure it has enough RAM in it.

[djohnson]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
A resounding yes.

As with any OS X machine, just make sure it has enough RAM in it.

I plan on starting with 1 gig and adding another gig within 3-6 months, depending on prices.

[itai195]

How will it feel?

snappy

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by itai195:
stupid gimmick that is way past it's shelflife

Oh really, thanks.

[chris_h]

Originally posted by itai195:
How will it feel?

snappy

that's up to you, actually... on Caracho you can find a disk image of Panther with the G5 Debug code removed... look for 4K78.dmg

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
that's up to you, actually... on Caracho you can find a disk image of Panther with the G5 Debug code removed... look for 4K78.dmg

omg r u serius?

[starman]

If I can encode a video in FCP 4 and video chat with philzilla at the same time while also downloading software from work, my answer would be yes.

Mike

[chris_h]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
omg r u serius?

look, i have proof... ... from the INTERNET

If you listen to much of the mac-buzz on the net, in the forums and IRC etc., you will see that many people seem sure that Mac OS X Build 4k78 (Sent to developers under the moniker "Release Candidate") is the build that was declared GM and released to manufacturing. I do not share this opinion. While I have no proof of this, I do have a few points to support this belief.

1) January 25, 2001 MacCentral reported that Shelia Annis, Apple's Mac OS product manager told them, "We have more surprises planned for the final version. "There is nothing that would really fall under that category in build 4k78 that we didn't already see at MacWorld San Francisco... And there has to be something new for Steve to demo at the Apple Event launching Mac OS X on March 21st.

2) 4k78 has programs ("Dock Extras") you put in the dock that act like control strip modules. There is one for adjusting monitor resolution and color depth, one that is a battery monitor and one that measures airport connection strength. It seems to me that a final release ought to at least have an easy way to adjust sound volume. Not to mention network settings, quick audio CD control, printer selection, microphone selection etc.

3) Build 4k78 lacks so many of the features of OS 9 and is so much slower than OS 9 that I can't imagine Steve would try to release the OS we have had to wait so long to get, the release he has been promising fixes everything that is wrong with Mac OS 8/9, in as incomplete a state as 4k78 is in. It is rumored that the 4k series of builds were designed strictly to give to their main developers. We know Steve Jobs hates it when his surprises get spoiled, and we know that prerelease versions of almost any Apple software get leaked all the time, primarily by Apple's 3rd party devs. It would seem a clever solution to the problem. Sure they still have the leaks, but are the leaks really showing anybody anything that Apple hasn't shown us already?

4) It seems unlikely Apple would leave a build number in the about this mac box in the final release. The final release ought just say either 1.0 or 10.0.

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
look, i have proof... ... from the INTERNET

SURELY YOU JEST!

oh, sup kosmo?

[chris_h]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
SURELY YOU JEST!

oh, sup kosmo?

nm dude, just hangin out listenin to linkin park (i'm totally about to break too, i completely relate to their art)
what about you? how's the wife and crotchfruit?

p.s. who's kozmo?

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
nm dude, just hangin out listenin to linkin park (i'm totally about to break too, i completely relate to their art)
what about you? how's the wife and crotchfruit?

p.s. who's kozmo?

Not much here. Still dead.

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
omg r u serius?

Okay, that is an obvious joke, people.

[chris_h]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
Not much here. Still dead.

oh hey ive been meaning to ask... how were those volcanoes way back when located on hawaii, when hawaii wouldn't have existed?

pls respond in the form of a haiku or, barring that, at the top of your lungs.

[chris_h]

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Okay, that is an obvious joke, people.

Hey Big C! whats up dude?

your software saved my ass the other day

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
oh hey ive been meaning to ask... how were those volcanoes way back when located on hawaii, when hawaii wouldn't have existed?

pls respond in the form of a haiku or, barring that, at the top of your lungs.

volcanos are bad
xenu was a drunken prick
it's all a big joke

[chris_h]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
volcanos are bad
xenu was a drunken prick
it's all a big joke

I dropped 50 grand on your church you dick.

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
I dropped 50 grand on your church you dick.

It's okay, I just dispatched a squadron of thetans to attack Mr. Heber Jentzch's body.

Consider the debt repaid.

[chris_h]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
It's okay, I just dispatched a squadron of thetans to attack Mr. Heber Jentzch's body.

Consider the debt repaid.

sweet... hey would you autograph my penis for another 10 grand?
money order made out to cash, per usual?

[CharlesS]

Originally posted by chris_h:
Hey Big C! whats up dude?

your software saved my ass the other day

Great to hear that my software was able to help you.

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by chris_h:
sweet... hey would you autograph my penis for another 10 grand?
money order made out to cash, per usual?

I sent Kelly Preston to your place.

It's the best I can do.

[starman]

I see banned people

[itai195]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
Oh really, thanks.

You laughed. Don't try to hide it.

[Lateralus]

Originally posted by starman:
I see banned people

I hear the whoosh of the Ban Hammer.

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by itai195:
You laughed. Don't try to hide it.

How can I laugh? I'm dead. Hell, how can I hide for that matter?

[Gankdawg]

+1

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by Gankdawg:
+1

Once I am in charge of this place, that will be a bannable phrase.

[starman]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
Once I am in charge of this place, that will be a bannable phrase.

Meaning, that won't happen anytime soon .

Mike

[L. Ron Hubbard]

Originally posted by starman:
Meaning, that won't happen anytime soon .

Mike

The power of Scientology will overtake this place with the intention of eradicating all thetans.

[djohnson]

Talk about getting OT... +1

[starman]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
The power of Scientology will overtake this place with the intention of eradicating all thetans.

Battlefield Earth sucked.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by chris_h:
on Caracho you can find a disk image of Panther with the G5 Debug code removed...

Downloading 2GBs of data over 1KB/sec would take a while.

[olePigeon]

Originally posted by L. Ron Hubbard:
The power of Scientology will overtake this place with the intention of eradicating all thetans.

So we'll all have a better understanding of the thought pocess of car salesmen?