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Oct 13, 2012, 12:40 PM
 
Its starting to look like Obama is going to throw Hillary under the bus.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/49396559/Kudlow_Obama_to_Pin_Libya_on_Hillary_Clinton
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Oct 13, 2012, 02:17 PM
 
It's looking like Obama is going to throw Clinton under the bus because "Biden said something like we were unaware"?
     
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Oct 13, 2012, 02:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
It shouldn't be too hard, especially after he asked defense contrators to violate the WARN act. Anyway U of C Boulder election model has Romney winning.
Analysis of election factors points to Romney win, University of Colorado study says
So this model has Obama winning Nevada, which he is currently only a hair-thin favorite in AND which has the highest unemployment in the nation, and losing Pennsylvania, where he is currently a 90% favorite to win? It has him winning Iowa, similarly a tossup, but losing solidly blue Minnesota?
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Oct 14, 2012, 07:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
So this model has Obama winning Nevada, which he is currently only a hair-thin favorite in AND which has the highest unemployment in the nation, and losing Pennsylvania, where he is currently a 90% favorite to win? It has him winning Iowa, similarly a tossup, but losing solidly blue Minnesota?
Umm...

Romney is statistically tied with Obama in Pennsylvania. Not sure exactly where you're getting the idea that Obama is a 90% favorite to win.

Minnesota? Ignoring the fact that this is also the home of Michelle Bachmann, the Minnesota statewide average is 48% Obama to 44% Romney; very near the +/- 3 margin of error for a statistical dead-heat, especially when considering the consistent over-sampling of Democrats in the polling data and the fact that Romney has achieved a net-gain of 8 percentage points in Minnesota over the past 9 months.

In fact, I'll go so far as to retract my former pessimism that Romney would assuredly lose in November.
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Oct 14, 2012, 12:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by ebuddy View Post
Umm...
Romney is statistically tied with Obama in Pennsylvania. Not sure exactly where you're getting the idea that Obama is a 90% favorite to win.
Nate Silver's model is currently predicting 90% chance of Obama winning PA.
     
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Oct 15, 2012, 05:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
It's looking like Obama is going to throw Clinton under the bus because "Biden said something like we were unaware"?
Joe Klein went on to say if you listen to the language used by Joe Biden in the debate closely – Bill Clinton's move may be more than simply precautionary.

“Biden said something like we were unaware – nobody told us. What does that say? The only person who did know is Hillary Clinton,” explained Klein.

“This is exactly what Bill Clinton was afraid of,” he added. The administration is going to pin the whole thing on Hillary.
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Oct 17, 2012, 02:45 PM
 
Does anyone know if the filmmaker is still in US custody?
     
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Oct 18, 2012, 06:04 AM
 
That's a good question.
     
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Oct 18, 2012, 04:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by finboy View Post
Does anyone know if the filmmaker is still in US custody?
If I were him I'd beg to stay there.
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Oct 19, 2012, 07:25 AM
 
Obama must have been channeling Biden.


President Barack Obama, during an interview shown on Comedy Central, has responded to a question about his administration's confused communication after the Benghazi attack, by saying: 'If four Americans get killed, it’s not optimal.'
Obama was speaking to Jon Stewart of The Daily Show for a programme that was broadcast last night. Stewart, a liberal whose young audience is full of potential voters prized by the Obama campaign, asked the president about his handling of the aftermath of the Benghazi attack.
But Obama's response sparked outrage among Republican commentators including the website Breitbart and prompted a vicious backlash from the Twitter community.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2219867/President-Barack-Obama-Benghazi-attack-If-4-Americans-killed-OPTIMAL.html#ixzz29l7BnwKD
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Oct 19, 2012, 11:02 AM
 
That's a bit of a stretch.
     
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Oct 24, 2012, 06:42 AM
 
Perhaps this is why Romney did not press Libya in the last debate:White House told of militant claim two hours after Libya attack: emails


(Reuters) - Officials at the White House and State Department were advised two hours after attackers assaulted the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi, Libya, on September 11 that an Islamic militant group had claimed credit for the attack, official emails show.

The emails, obtained by Reuters from government sources not connected with U.S. spy agencies or the State Department and who requested anonymity, specifically mention that the Libyan group called Ansar al-Sharia had asserted responsibility for the attacks. The brief emails also show how U.S. diplomats described the attack, even as it was still under way, to Washington.
While some information identifying recipients of this message was redacted from copies of the messages obtained by Reuters, a government source said that one of the addresses to which the message was sent was the White House Situation Room, the president's secure command post.

Other addressees included intelligence and military units as well as one used by the FBI command center, the source said.
If these emails are legit, look for them in a barrage of new ads in the last weeks of the campaign.
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Oct 26, 2012, 08:06 AM
 
EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say

Fox News has learned from sources who were on the ground in Benghazi that an urgent request from the CIA annex for military back-up during the attack on the U.S. Consulate and subsequent attack several hours later was denied by officials in the CIA chain of command -- who also told the CIA operators twice to "stand down" rather than help the ambassador's team when shots were heard at approximately 9:40 p.m. in Benghazi on Sept. 11.

Former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty were part of a small team who were at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. Consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When they heard the shots fired, they radioed to inform their higher-ups to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to "stand down," according to sources familiar with the exchange. An hour later, they called again to headquarters and were again told to "stand down."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/cia-operators-were-denied-request-for-help-during-benghazi-attack-sources-say/#ixzz2AQDEpdEO
This gets worse as more details emerge
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Oct 26, 2012, 11:02 AM
 
That article is way unclear.

The CIA annex was denied a request for backup. Okay... so what? Was there backup available to them? From whom?

In a situation where they feel the need to request backup, they are further denied the request to investigate. Well, duh. If you need backup at the CIA annex, why would you tell the SEALs who are at the annex to leave and go somewhere else?
     
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Nov 5, 2012, 01:19 PM
 

PROOF: OBAMA REFUSED TO CALL BENGHAZI 'TERROR,' CBS COVERED UP

Better late than never. Candy Cane Crowley need a copy of this transcript.
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Nov 5, 2012, 01:29 PM
 
A link from FoxNews and a link from Breitbart? I'll rather gargle ground glass.
     
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Nov 5, 2012, 01:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
PROOF: OBAMA REFUSED TO CALL BENGHAZI 'TERROR,' CBS COVERED UP
Better late than never. Candy Cane Crowley need a copy of this transcript.
This is just the most retarded "nontroversy" ....

Originally Posted by President Obama
Well it’s too early to tell exactly how this came about, what group was involved, but obviously it was an attack on Americans. And we are going to be working with the Libyan government to make sure that we bring these folks to justice, one way or the other.
An American President being circumspect while an intelligence assessment was ongoing. Oh no ... that'll never do.

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Nov 5, 2012, 01:41 PM
 
Like I said, I don't know crap about this subject, but how does the CIA released timeline fit into all this. Somewhat surprised it didn't get an ounce of play considering I'd think it'd be relevant and perhaps enlightening (unless of course it propaganda or something)
     
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Nov 5, 2012, 06:36 PM
 
The CIA is covering their collective ass because someone told Woods and Doherty to stand down, twice.
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Nov 14, 2012, 04:21 AM
 
Why was the stand down ordered? Did they know it would result in the death of the ambassador? Was that part of the plan? Who was supposed to be 'in charge' ?
     
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Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 AM
 
What is this plan it could be part of?
     
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Nov 14, 2012, 05:02 AM
 
PERHAPS.......

Petraeus and Broadwell have got the goods on Obama and Co. and they know it. Ask yourself: Why would Paula Broadwell's North Carolina home be raided by the FBI, and boxes of her belongings taken out? Then the very next day, her driver's license is suddenly "found" by a "jogger" in Washington D.C.'s Rock Creek Park? That's a clear message to her and Petraeus: SHUT THE EFF UP OR YOU'LL WIND UP LIKE CHANDRA LEVY AND VINCE FOSTER.

The problem for the White House is, there is no stopping the information about Benghazi from getting out. It may have been spread around to others. If Petraeus was smart, he might turn the tables and take them all down.

I used to think the murder of Ambassador Stevens at BENGHAZI was merely a cover-up for a Syrian gun-running scheme hatched by the Obama administration - reason enough to bring the administration up on criminal charges. But I think it goes far, far deeper. The White House would not go to these lengths - in broad daylight - to keep people quiet if it wasn't something HUGE, involving many, many officials.
     
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Nov 14, 2012, 05:05 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
What is this plan it could be part of?
The killing of an American Ambassador.


Why the order to stand down?
Why did it take the FBI so long to get their after the incident?
Did they have to wait until a 'cleaner' went over everything and took away the incriminating stuff?

Something stinks here.
     
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Nov 14, 2012, 05:16 AM
 
Aren't there quieter ways to kill someone?
     
 
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