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DeepDish · Jun 23, 2003, 07:54 PM

In the past I have found places where people actually uploaded stand alone, non-streaming files of past MWs and WWDCs keynotes.

I know it it is stream right now as we speak.

But anybody have any ideas where I can find a stand alone, downloadable version.

And yes I know Apple does not approve of these files, but I want to burn a dvd of it for a pc friend who refuses to install QT on his computer.

Oneota · Jun 23, 2003, 10:41 PM

The last few Keynotes, Apple's been using RTSP streams, which are difficult to capture and near-impossible to just simply download. So the likeliest way to get a standalone version is for someone who recorded it off of the C-Band satellite broadcast to digitize it to MPEG-4 and host it for the rest of us.

(*Hint* *Hint*)

jcarr · Jun 24, 2003, 08:05 AM

Ahh, someone beat me to the obligitory 'download keynote' thread for WWDC.

Actually, all of the keynote and special event webcasts have been RTSP streams. This diference of late is that there have not been parallel HTTP downloads available.

The HTTP downloads may still be available, but it's become MUCH harder to decipher the correct URLs to download the files from the Akamai servers.

Anyone else have any luck?

jcarr · Jun 24, 2003, 08:13 AM

I got the ref movie, and it redirects to an .sdp file. The .sdp file is simply text.

Can anyone make heads or tails of this:

v=0
o=apple 3259904956 3259904956 IN IP4 192.168.43.205
s=WWDC 2003 Keynote 250k
i=visit us at www.apple.com
c=IN IP4 216.148.237.129
t=0 0
a=x-qt-text-nam:WWDC 2003 Keynote 250k
a=x-qt-text-cpy:Copyright 2003-All rights reserved
a=x-qt-text-aut:Apple Computer, Inc.
a=x-qt-text-inf:visit us at www.apple.com
m=audio 30184 RTP/AVP 96
a=rtpmap:96 mpeg4-generic/22050/1
a=fmtp:96 profile-level-id=1;mode=AAC-hbr;sizelength=13;indexlength=3;indexdeltalength=3 ;config=1388
m=video 30186 RTP/AVP 97
a=rtpmap:97 MP4V-ES
a=cliprect:0,0,168,224
a=fmtp:97 profile-level-id=1;config=000001B0F3000001B50EE040C0CF0000010000 000120008440FA283820A8A31F

coolmacdude · Jun 24, 2003, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by jcarr:
Ahh, someone beat me to the obligitory 'download keynote' thread for WWDC.

Actually, all of the keynote and special event webcasts have been RTSP streams. This diference of late is that there have not been parallel HTTP downloads available.

The HTTP downloads may still be available, but it's become MUCH harder to decipher the correct URLs to download the files from the Akamai servers.

Anyone else have any luck?

Here is an http link, dont know if this helps.

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/j...100_56_ref.mov

jcarr · Jun 24, 2003, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by coolmacdude:
Here is an http link, dont know if this helps.

http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/j...100_56_ref.mov

This link only downlaods the reference movie (about 660 bytes). Not the full keynote video.

DeepDish · Jun 24, 2003, 01:16 PM

I use to collect http versions of the speeches (not the streaming or reference files) but the actual huge mov files of them. It has been about a year since I have been able to get one.

I would love to get a real mov version of this wwdc. I would love to burn it to dvd for some of my pc friends. and yes, they are friends, but just not dear friends.

SinikalB*tch · Jun 24, 2003, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by DeepDish:
I would love to burn it to dvd for some of my pc friends. and yes, they are friends, but just not dear friends.

Maybe it's time to get new friends...

hehehe

tullamore · Jun 24, 2003, 02:21 PM

Here is the location of the movie:

rtsp://a1517.v14244.c1424.g.vq.akama...2/wwdc_300.mov

jcarr · Jun 24, 2003, 02:53 PM

Originally posted by tullamore:
Here is the location of the movie:

rtsp://a1517.v14244.c1424.g.vq.akama...2/wwdc_300.mov

This is an RTSP link, not a downloadable HTTP link.

Kenneth · Jun 24, 2003, 07:34 PM

Originally posted by tullamore:
Here is the location of the movie:

rtsp://a1517.v14244.c1424.g.vq.akama...2/wwdc_300.mov

Link doesn't work with StreamBoxVCR (PC).

Oneota · Jun 24, 2003, 10:28 PM

That link has a "< br / >" in it; which may be affecting StreamBoxVCR (I assume it isn't supposed to be there).

Kenneth · Jun 24, 2003, 11:04 PM

Well.. thanks for the correction..
but the link it now a dead link.... 404

tkmd · Jun 25, 2003, 12:35 AM

has anyone been able to get the stream to play? For me QT locks up after a couple of seconds of play. I have to force quit it. WTF? I have tried to re-install QT6.3, trash its prefs and even do a permissions reset but its a no go....

Any sugestions?

djerbee · Jun 26, 2003, 03:14 AM

Only we can do is:

�_Capture it with Snapz Pro.
�_Save as movie file.

I tried this but I couldn't capture the entire keynote, dunnno why.

Then, I tried to capture separately, like 10min + 10min + 10min... this works for me.

But I didn't capture the entire keynote yet b/c I don't have enough time and disk space now.

Does anyone want to try this?

No, please try this!

BTW, why don't Apple sell their keynote address? If they sell it, I'll buy it, seriously.

DeepDish · Jun 26, 2003, 07:29 AM

Why doesn't Apple hand out for one month after each Steve keynote a version on DVD at each CompUSA/Best Buy/Apple Store.

Steve is the best person at selling Macs.

Most pc people don't even know that Steve gives keynotes.

If pc people don't see his keynotes, they will never hear him give the best sells pitch out there.

Give his speechs away on DVD to pc people like AOL give away install CDs.

Flood the world with his speechs.

the_glassman · Jun 26, 2003, 11:55 AM

You can find it and download it using BitTorrent.

JLFanboy · Jun 26, 2003, 12:02 PM

Why doesn't Apple hand out for one month after each Steve keynote a version on DVD at each CompUSA/Best Buy/Apple Store.

Steve is the best person at selling Macs.

Most pc people don't even know that Steve gives keynotes.

If pc people don't see his keynotes, they will never hear him give the best sells pitch out there.

Give his speechs away on DVD to pc people like AOL give away install CDs.

Flood the world with his speechs.

That's...that's a damn good idea.

It'll never happen, though.

typoon · Jun 27, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by DeepDish:
Why doesn't Apple hand out for one month after each Steve keynote a version on DVD at each CompUSA/Best Buy/Apple Store.

Steve is the best person at selling Macs.

Most pc people don't even know that Steve gives keynotes.

If pc people don't see his keynotes, they will never hear him give the best sells pitch out there.

Give his speechs away on DVD to pc people like AOL give away install CDs.

Flood the world with his speechs.

Not only that but in Speech class in school they should teach by using his keynotes. Jobs is probably one of the most dynamic and charismatic speakers out there. No matter how bit the RDF is you must admit that he is both of those and would make for one great lesson in speech class. Hell I bet Jobs could sell an icebox to an eskimo.

bradoesch · Jun 27, 2003, 09:57 AM

Originally posted by the_glassman:
You can find it and download it using BitTorrent.

Where's a good place to search for it?

Gene Jockey · Jun 27, 2003, 10:17 AM

Originally posted by tkmd:
has anyone been able to get the stream to play? For me QT locks up after a couple of seconds of play. I have to force quit it. WTF? I have tried to re-install QT6.3, trash its prefs and even do a permissions reset but its a no go....

Any sugestions?

You need to update your 3ivx component. It hoses mpeg4 streams. Either get the new (D4 4.0.4) component or remove the old while you watch the keynote. Cheers...

Oh, and does anyone have a link to a .torrent for the keynote? Googling for a while turned up plenty of Panther links, but no keynote...

--Josh

DeepDish · Jun 27, 2003, 08:58 PM

I keep seeing a file called a ".torrent" on emule/edonkey whenever I search for wwdc.

what is a .torrent?

OwlBoy · Jun 27, 2003, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by DeepDish:
I keep seeing a file called a ".torrent" on emule/edonkey whenever I search for wwdc.

what is a .torrent?

http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/18286

And the file you see, is prolly panther...

-Owl

Oneota · Jun 27, 2003, 10:04 PM

Ya; it's probably Panther itself, not they keynote. But -- if someone has a .torrent for the keynote, link it here, by all means!

Xeo · Jun 28, 2003, 02:37 PM

I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.

Let me know.

blackbird_1.0 · Jun 28, 2003, 11:23 PM

yes please

Kenneth · Jun 28, 2003, 11:38 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.

Let me know.

I love you.

Zeno C · Jun 29, 2003, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.
Let me know.

YEAH PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!

:-)

Logic · Jun 29, 2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.

Let me know.

Yes, please

Hawkeye_a · Jun 29, 2003, 01:11 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.

Let me know.

yes, please. very very tasty... how do we get it ? ftp ?

Mac Write · Jun 29, 2003, 03:39 PM

Please make it 320x240 MP4 or even hiugher 480x360x or even 640x480.

Who cares if it's a 1.2GB file send it to a few people and it will be hosted.

Logic · Jun 29, 2003, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by Mac Write:
Who cares if it's a 1.2GB file send it to a few people and it will be hosted.

Well, I care. I can only d/l 500MB from abroad a month, and then I have to pay extra for every MB after that

sniffer · Jun 29, 2003, 05:41 PM

This would have been a good task for BitTorrent.

(.. The thread about BitTorrent in software fora got closed.. )

DeepDish · Jun 29, 2003, 09:40 PM

you da man.

I would love to download your copy.

Any idea where/how you will make it availble.

maybe break into pieces and put it on a.b.m?

hope the quality is high enough to burn a dvd.

still wish some sneaky person can find the original apple .mov version.

Pretzel · Jun 30, 2003, 04:02 AM

Xeo:
I have the keynote taped. If anyone is still interested, I can digitize it and convert it to mp4. I won't be able to do it until Monday.

Let me know.

As a matter of interest how and from where did you tape it -

How big was it prior to converting to mp4?

willed · Jun 30, 2003, 05:33 AM

Would you guys seriously sit through the whole speech again?? I would think that after the first time it would lose its appeal! Plus, these PC 'friends' of yours are too stubborn even to install QT; what makes you think they'd want to sit through an hour and a half of Apple propaganda?

Just wondering

DeepDish · Jun 30, 2003, 08:30 AM

Since I was the one who started this thread.

I do have two pc friends I have in mind I wanted to watch this keynote.

In the past I was able to find the actuall huge .mov of the keynotes.

but now I can't.

So, yes, I do plan on putting it on a DVD for them to watch on tv rather than on thier computers.

And, yes, I do think they will enjoy it.

Steve Jobs can be quite hypnotic to watch.

dav · Jun 30, 2003, 10:50 AM

yes, please host. i haven't seen it yet and i can't watch a two hour presentation at work. my fastest connection at home is 26.4k so streaming is beyond terrible. i download trailers, updates, etc. at work and watch/install at home.

Hawkeye_a · 02:55 AM

people be reasonable. just take the MPEG4 (less than 700MB preferably) or MPEG1 and put it on a VCD or use video out to get it on TV. it seems kinda rediculious to host a 1.5+hour MPEG2 video let alone have a connection that can handle several mac-fanatics (like myself

) downloading it at the same time. be glad someone has offered. i recommend an MPEG4 file (320*240) and no more than 600-700MB in size.

Then if you want to burn DVDs/VCDs/whatever, encode the video urself.This way everyone gets a good quality vid thats reasonable in size and can do whatever they want with it.

Cheers.

Apfhex · Jun 30, 2003, 09:33 PM

And if a Torrent can be made, ooh, ideal! I didn't get to watch the live broadcast, and I'd really like to be able to see they keynote.

Since EBCDIC · Jun 30, 2003, 09:42 PM

I'm leaving on a summer vacation tomorrow morning!

Someone PLEASE make WWDC available before I go!

I'll leave my BitTorrent window open until the shuttle van comes to pick me up...

Hawkeye_a · Jul 1, 2003, 02:57 AM

any update on the wwdc video avilibility ?

Logic · Jul 2, 2003, 07:42 AM

Originally posted by Hawkeye_a:
any update on the wwdc video avilibility ?

what he said

SSebeny · 09:38 AM

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Xeo · Jul 2, 2003, 01:02 PM

Man, I haven't been checking this thread. Last time I check I had no replies but that was the day after my post. Sorry. Yes. I will digitize it. I'll let you guys know a link later.

Logic · Jul 2, 2003, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Man, I haven't been checking this thread. Last time I check I had no replies but that was the day after my post. Sorry. Yes. I will digitize it. I'll let you guys know a link later.

Thanks

ironknee · Jul 2, 2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Man, I haven't been checking this thread. Last time I check I had no replies but that was the day after my post. Sorry. Yes. I will digitize it. I'll let you guys know a link later.

thx

Xeo · Jul 2, 2003, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by Pretzel:
As a matter of interest how and from where did you tape it -

How big was it prior to converting to mp4?

Taped it from the satellite feed when it was being broadcast. Taking the VHS (yuk) and bringing it into DV, then taking the DV and compressing it to MP4.

I haven't done the digitizing yet. I'm working on it. I will have to do it in pieces as I don't have the hard drive space to take all 2 hours into DV in one shot. I wish I had an empty 120 gig available. I tried using Quicktime broadcaster to take it right to mp4 format but it's looking like crap so I don't want to go with that.

I'll let you all know when I'm done.

For the guy who wants a DVD, e-mail me (xeo -at- mac -dot- com). Maybe we can work something out while I have the DV around.

Xeo · 06:04 PM

Damn, I just grabbed it into DV and found out that the tape ran out before it finished. I didn't know this until just now since I had to go back to work that day before the keynote finished. I left the tape recording but I guess 2 hours didn't cut it.

It stopped part way through the "G5 intro" video that you can download from Apple's website. It cut during Peebler's talk about how stunning it is. I can cut just before Catmull's talk. It seems like a good ending. Or, I can cut before the G5 intro video all together, I'm not sure where the best place is. I'm downloading the G5 intro video again just to see how much got cut off. [edit: downloaded and now I see I lost the last 1/3 of that. I might be able to use the one I downloaded in place of the one on the keynote so it actually finishes that video.]

Could someone please tell me if there is anything after that part that I missed?

(The part that bothers me most is that I started recording when the video feed started coming down so I have about 10 minutes of "looking at the crowd" before the keynote actually starts. If I had known it would go longer than 2 hours I would have started taping closer to the actual keynote.)

SSebeny · 09:39 AM

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