[CIA]

Downloading now! Check software update!

Install notes from the download:

The 10.4.1 Update delivers overall improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.4 and is recommended for all users. It includes improvements for:

file sharing using AFP and SMB/CIFS network file services
using DHCP in wireless networks
user login when accessing LDAP and Active Directory servers
core graphics including updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
synchronization with .Mac
Address Book, iCal, Font Book, Mail, and Preview applications
Dashboard widgets: Address Book, Flight Tracker, Phone Book, and World Clock
creating and burning disk images using Disk Utility
compatibility with third party applications and devices
For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n301517

[bfurtado]

Just about to post this too, but I posted at ehmac.ca first!

The 10.4.1 Update delivers overall improved reliability for Mac OS X v10.4 and is recommended for all users. It includes improvements for:

file sharing using AFP and SMB/CIFS network file services
using DHCP in wireless networks
user login when accessing LDAP and Active Directory servers
core graphics including updated ATI and NVIDIA graphics drivers
synchronization with .Mac
Address Book, iCal, Font Book, Mail, and Preview applications
Dashboard widgets: Address Book, Flight Tracker, Phone Book, and World Clock
creating and burning disk images using Disk Utility
compatibility with third party applications and devices
For detailed information on this Update, please visit this website: http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n301517


Brian

[Big Mac]

Yay! I'll just proceed to install this over 10.3.9. . . Oh wait. Gotta make time for that upgrade now, one of these days.

[CaptainHaddock]

Originally Posted by Big Mac

Yay! I'll just proceed to install this over 10.3.9. . . Oh wait. Gotta make time for that upgrade now, one of these days.

Surely you can spare half an hour? All I did was pop in the Tiger disk, hit "continue" a few times, and go for a walk. I came back to a Tiger desktop.

Of course, you'll have to spend an hour or so doing light tasks like reading MacNN while Spotlight finishes its indexing.

[Briareus]

Cool. At least now my Software Update actually shows something

DL'ing. Ahh, the bleeding edge...

[jdiddy]

Just finished installing it. Powerbook is restarting wohooo.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Any obvious bugs that were were all bitching about fixed?

[Spook E]

Yay!! It finally fixed my problem of spotlight not searching iPhoto HOORAY FOR APPLE!!

the other thing that springs to mind is that URLs that can't be found no longer have that nice little page, just a standard 404 message, I'm going to miss that Safari page

[cc_foo]

Is it snappier?

[CIA]

After digging a little deeper with the Apple Kbase doc, nice that iSync no longer initially takes data from the computer and dumps it into the phone. I lost almost 140 contacts out of my phone the first time I sync'd up. Pain in the ass.

Says "Core graphics improvements" How can I check to see if QE2D is on?
Minor testing, but things do seem a little more snappy graphically....

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by CIA

Says "Core graphics improvements" How can I check to see if QE2D is on?

Look in Quartz Debug under the Tools menu. It won't be.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by CIA

How can I check to see if QE2D is on?

Q2DX is not turned on for me.

[mdc]

1.25 15" powerbook working fine after install.

[Spook E]

Originally Posted by cc_foo

Is it snappier?

mouse moves quicker!

have noticed that the spotlight icon has a different background to the rest of the menu bar ie. its dull whereas the rest of the menu bar is glossy, didnt notice this before but its buggin the hell outta me now.

[ashtoash]

lol, it's obvious your system is hacked up. This error IS not the one that safari shows, when it can't connect to a site.

404 errors are for when you reached a site, but the page was missing. That's handled on the server side.

Stop spreading mis-information.

Originally Posted by Spook E

Yay!! It finally fixed my problem of spotlight not searching iPhoto HOORAY FOR APPLE!!

the other thing that springs to mind is that URLs that can't be found no longer have that nice little page, just a standard 404 message, I'm going to miss that Safari page

[Big Mac]

Originally Posted by CatOne

I just used a plunger to force a turd down my toilet. Funny thing, it looked kinda like you, and smelled kinda like your jokes.

A bit harsh, CatOne. cc_foo isn't the only one to use that phrase. Did he kick your dog or something?

[kman42]

1) widget auto-install removed?

2) can you share address books with non-.mac members?

[Big Mac]

If open safe files is left on in Safari, it will now notify the user that there is an application being downloaded, just as it does when .dmgs are downloded. See piracy's last comment in the widget vulnerability thread.

[Spook E]

Originally Posted by ashtoash

Stop spreading mis-information.

Stop being a jerk, Im telling you what its doing thats all.

Before I installed the update it was working, after the update it was not, 404 error or whatever you want to call it i dont know, but it hasn't appeared since and i tried the same site just to prove it.

[kcmac]

Big Mac's right about Dashboard.

The address book sharing with .mac users only is a feature. I don't care for it much myself since it would be nice to be able to share the AB with users on the same computer in your home.

The update feels good so far. Then again, I really didn't find much at fault with the original.

[Ambassadeur]

April 29 to May 16. Now that was a quick one.
How long did first minor updates "normally" take?

Originally Posted by cc_foo

Is it snappier?

That just had to come. So we finally have that out of our system now, don't we?

[piracy]

Originally Posted by kman42

1) widget auto-install removed?

No.

But widgets are now added to the standard prompting process when "Open 'safe' files after downloading" is enabled. The user is explicitly prompted to download, and as such, this (relatively) minor issue is now a non-issue.

[ManOfSteal]

Originally Posted by Ambassadeur

How long did first minor updates "normally" take?

~ 3 weeks.

[piracy]

Originally Posted by Ambassadeur

April 29 to May 16. Now that was a quick one.
How long did first minor updates "normally" take?

Actually, Mac OS X 10.4 8A428 was completely on March 26 and declared GM on March 28, so 10.4.1 has been in the works for over 6 weeks, which is a perfectly regular amount of time for a point update.

[Webscreamer]

My 2 annoyances are still there: "Library" file in Network Finder window and mach files showing when the hard drive is control-clicked in the Dock.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Well it doesn't fix the buggy asses Image Capture any

[Footy]

Still can't connect to my online banking with Safari. Not that I really expected this update to clear the issue up. Firefox is working just fine for me at any rate.

[MacGallant]

The freakin' MDD Audio Bug from the Mac OSX 10.3.6 Panther is still present in Mac OSX 10.4.1 Tiger!

Also the scrollbar graphic anomaly that appears while surfing in some forums and websites is still present.

Get your act together Apple!

[piracy]

Originally Posted by MacGallant

The freakin' MDD Audio Bug from the Mac OSX 10.3.6 Panther is still present in Mac OSX 10.4.1 Tiger!

Also the scrollbar graphic anomaly that appears while surfing in some forums and websites is still present.

Get your act together Apple!

Did you ever specifically, properly, and reproducibly report these to http://bugreport.apple.com/ ?

[fisherKing]

but when is 10.4.2 due????

[neilio]

Can someone post the build number?

(Apple Menu > About This Mac > click on "Version 10.4.1" and post back what the build # says).

Thanks!

[ManOfSteal]

8B15.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Ok so image capture is still buggy as well as that Scroll bar problem with safari. nuts.

[MacGallant]

Originally Posted by piracy

Did you ever specifically, properly, and reproducibly report these to http://bugreport.apple.com/ ?

Yeah, I reported the well know MDD bug twice during the Panther days. Apple closed my case around the time Mac OSX 10.3.9 Panther Update came out. Other MDD owners spoke about this problem in other mac related forums on the net and like me, they looked forward for Apple to fix it with the next OSX update, but Apple didn't.

As for the Scrollbar graphic anomaly in Safari for a few websites and forums(the scrollbar leaving trail of bits of itself) a few people here at MacNN and MacAddict also experienced it but I myself didn't file a bug report on this yet. I think, Me and some other guy talked about this in a Mac OSX Tiger bug thread here, a short while ago.

[Eug Wanker]

10.4.1 deleted almost all of my 3rd party widgets. They were missing both from the common Widget folder and my own account's Widget folder. Thus, they weren't in my Widget bar either.

The weird part is one of the Widgets was still active.

[Mr. Blur]

One thing that 10.4.1 has broken is the SpamCop mail.bundle...it worked fine under 10.4.0 but upon launch you get a message that it is no longer compatible and gets moved to a bundles (disabled) folder.

just tried to install the JunkMatcher bundle and 10.4.1 does not like that either.....

[David Thompson]

It appears that I still can't drag to reorder items in the Accountslogin items list.

[echosphere]

Is there a link to the Combo update?

[striker100]

TransparentDock doesn't work with 10.4.1.

[echosphere]

Originally Posted by striker100

TransparentDock doesn't work with 10.4.1.

Fast thinking, I just downloaded, but this makes me pause... I assume you installed it prior. Does it default back? Or just not install after the update?

[striker100]

The TransparentDock 10.4 update doesn't work with 10.4.1. Even if you try to change the settings it doesn't work. Funny that my dock is still pinned to the right bottom corner but it won't make the dock transparent. Guess I'll have to wiat for an update.

[MacMan4000]

Can anyone print to a shared printer on their network? I can't...
10.3.9 broke it...
10.4.0 fixed it again...
10.4.1 murdered it slowly and painfully.

when i click Print (on press +P) I am met by a spinning beachball for at least 30 seconds before I get the print dialog, then when I click "print" I get another large helping of beachball spinning, followed by a generic printing error. And it does the same thing for "save as PDF" too... so it might not be just network printing. i think the whole print dialog was castrated.

Anyone else suffering?

[Fusion]

Originally Posted by striker100

TransparentDock doesn't work with 10.4.1.

Yeah, I just got an email from Kevin that he updated it, downloaded it, used it, was happy.

Noticed 10.4.1 was out 5 minutes later, downloaded it, used it, was happy.

Fired up TD again, didn't work. Bummer. I emailed him back, hopefully he'll have it soon.

[MrNo]

Originally Posted by MacMan4000

Can anyone print to a shared printer on there network? I can't...
10.3.9 broke it...
10.4.0 fixed it again...
10.4.1 murdered it slowly and painfully.

when i click Print (on press +P) I am met by a spinning beachball for at least 30 seconds before I get the print dialog, then when I click "print" I get another large helping of beachball spinning, followed by a generic printing error. And it does the same thing for "save as PDF" too... so it might not be just network printing. i think the whole print dialog was castrated.

Anyone else suffering?

I have no problems printing to a shared Windows printer, or printing to a regular networked printer (JetDirect).

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blur

One thing that 10.4.1 has broken is the SpamCop mail.bundle...it worked fine under 10.4.0 but upon launch you get a message that it is no longer compatible and gets moved to a bundles (disabled) folder.

just tried to install the JunkMatcher bundle and 10.4.1 does not like that either.....

It has not broken. It has been disabled: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301584

[TheSpaz]

10.4.1 set my PowerBook on FIRE!!!

Just kidding... but seriously... I don't notice hardly any differences with the update. Exposé feels a little faster and smoother. But here are my annoyances that didn't make the fix.

Menu item selections are still slow and sluggish.
Snap to grid in the Finder has a jerky look to it.
Desktop icon name hilights are still clipped off on the ends (where it's supposed to be round)
Safari still can't remember where the heck I want my window to stay
Quicktime 7 movies open in the far left upper corner up against the menu bar and side of the screen... that's terrible looking.
Finder preferences open the same way as Quicktime movies... up against the menu bar and side.
Finder scrolling (dragging the scroll thumb) is still slightly sluggish and not silky smooth.

I think that's pretty much it. Yes I know they are such little bugs... but, I'm a perfectionist and I notice the small details and it's sad to see that Panther was overall smoother when it came to menus and icon snap to grid and Finder scrolling... it's just really sad to see that Tiger has taken on it's own personallity... I mean... what was wrong with Panther's cosmetics... why do they always change it for the worse.

I'm buying a PC... wait... *throws up* oh yeah... Apple's good enough I guess.

[LightWaver-67]

FYI: 10.4.1 does NOT fix the Address Book Widget bug where after multiple uses and clicking on phone numbers, the text entry field fails to accept text... just returns system error beeps w/ each keystroke.

- discuss -

[jasong]

Working great for me, in fact it seems to be hitting the VM a little less now. Of course I already ordered more RAM, so I've got a real solution to that problem on its way.

[:dragonflypro:]

Originally Posted by TETENAL

It has not broken. It has been disabled: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301584

Making a new Bundles Folder and replacing the .mailbundle does not work, therefore they are broke.

T

[bit.shiftr]

Seems like a good patch to me. No major problems and printing is okay. Thanks Apple!