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Is LinuxPPC dead?
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Join Date: Jul 1999
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Well is it?There still 4th Q 2000 Rev of there
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Originally posted by natro301:
<STRONG>Well is it?There still 4th Q 2000 Rev of there </STRONG>
as far as i know people working on the project abanddoned it...so i think it is dead...Q4 was the latest release...but i am not sure about it
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The company that made LinuxPPC disbaned and is trying to reform as a not-for-profit firm that will help fund and over see Linux development on all PPC platforms.
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How much of a market exists for Linux on the Mac? It there an active user community? With OS X, the Unix jones is filled, and Linux has always been much better supported on x86.
Please don't take this as a criticism of the movement or it's users, but Linux on Mac was always a bit fringe, and with OS X in full swing, I think it begining to really sputter.
Thought?
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Join Date: May 1999
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Yellodog seems to be surviving so far. They have some cool stuff.. their black lab dist. computing setup is popular in universities etc. I think.
I just downloaded the latest LinuxPPC image but the burned disk doesn't seem to boot.
Any suggestions?
thanks
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It really does seem that linux on the mac has lost a lot of it's appeal with the advent of Mac OSX. I used to dual boot OS9/Linux on my laptop, being a graduate student in a primarily x86 linux research lab. I really wanted linux there to be able to do some light development work (plus I just love the command line), but I certainly didn't need to do any heavy duty development, and dual-booting was just a real pain. OSX is the ideal OS for me, unix with all the good mac stuff to, and I'm certainly not the only person that feels this way. None of us who use Macintoshes run linux anymore, it just really doesn't seem to have much to offer that OSX doesn't.
Maybe that's a good question, what can linux offer that OSX cannot?
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Although LinuxPPC is no more, there's nothing to miss at all. There are many other Linux distributions out there for the Mac, which are all much better than LinuxPPC. I would recommend either Debian or YDL for first time users.
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We've just put Yello Dog on a couple of RevA iBooks - just don't ask why! The installation itself was nowhere near as straightforward as it should've been.
Boondoggle - had the a similar problem, but we couldn't even get the iso image to burn properly. Then it did burn but wouldn't boot. Eventually got it to work by using another Linux system (I forget, it was a colleagues home system) to burn the discs.
First couple of times, we selected the graphical installer and it hung consistantly at about 70% complete. Re-ran the installer in text mode and again it hung at about 65% this time. Reformatted the drive and the install went sweet as anything. Going to put OS9 back onto the drive again as we need the machines to be dual-bootable.
But with the advent of OSX, two words spring to mind - never again!
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Originally posted by agentz:
<STRONG>But with the advent of OSX, two words spring to mind - never again!</STRONG>
True, but for those Linux freaks out there like me, Linux still needs to be there. It may also be UNIX like Mac OS X, but it's an entirely different kernel.
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The real appeal of Linux on PPC to me is running it on old hardware. We ran our entire domain including email, web server, and DNS on a Powermac 6100/66 running LinuxPPC for 2 years with about 6 months between reboots. It's now on a couple of G4s running OSX, but it does show that Linux on PPC has a viable role. You can't put OSX on a 6100 (maybe darwin, who knows?)
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I like Yellow Dog. It works really well on my G4/400. The thing about about Mac OS X's Darwin core is it is non-standard even by BSD standards (Hello? NetInfo) which makes porting more challenging than it should be.
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Its interesting to know that "big" PC Linux distros have offered their distributions for the PowerPC as well. Debian, Mandrake, SuSE, and TurboLinux among others have made PPC distributions of Linux.
I've tried LinuxPPC 2K/Q4, YDL 2.1, MDK8-PPC, and DebianPPC, and so far I've given YDL2.1 and MDK8-PPC as my favorites. Debian is nice in that it has apt, which makes maintaining programs a little bit easier. I've always had problems "managing" applications though, and sometimes Linux on the Mac doesn't "feel" as comfortable as on the PC.
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Well YDL is the best distro towards the PPC platform in my opinion, i never had any problem buring YDL images... when it comes to LinuxPPC images some of them are not in iso format, but toast images, it is mentioned in the readme files.
I also use Linux more frequent than OSX, due to the fact that Apple has decided not to provide accelerated drivers for 99 Powerbook (Lombard).
Furthermore the Terminal application in OSX has some limitations, for instance when it comes to remote scrollback, (Im unable to use GLTerm for some reason). //
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Are they officially dead? I can't seem to connect to either <a href="http://www.linuxppc.org/>linuxppc.org</a> or <a href="http://www.linuxppc.com/">linuxppc.com</a>.
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If I were building a box to run Linux on, I go x86 for sure.
Hmm.... maybe Linux would be a good idea for my G3 Beige carcass(needs drives and a keyboard, stole the ADB keyboard for my B&W) I've got shoved under my bed
You know you're a geek when you have a dead G3 Beige, an Amiga 500, and a big-a$$ PC-AT shoved under your bed.
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