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Oct 31, 2014, 12:27 PM
 
It's just one of those things where it gets worse and worse the longer you look...sort of like Sarah Jessica Parker, but not nearly as likely to be surprisingly charming on Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee
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I wanna know what photographer was like, "Scream when you fire the gun. More. All of you! It's only natural!"
     
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"What's my motivation?"

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Originally Posted by subego View Post
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Oct 31, 2014, 05:03 PM
 
In page 1 of this thread, if you scroll up and down fast enough, the Terminator blinks.
     
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
Boston Legal is your favourite TV show. You're very, very wrong.
Boston Legal was awesome.

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Nov 1, 2014, 08:55 AM
 
The Terminator timeline is complicated, and this is going to bend it a load more. Up to now, my understanding was that T3 and Sarah Connor Chronicles are alternate timelines, so if you follow SCC, then T3 (and Salvation) didn't happen. I still can't work out where Jennysis fits into or is an alternate timeline to, or what it cancels out or hrrrrfgggppfft! Brain farted.

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Nov 1, 2014, 09:53 AM
 
"Money: the ultimate alternate timeline"
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Nov 3, 2014, 10:13 AM
 
Originally Posted by ort888 View Post
It was clearly stated in the first movie that the humans had won and the robots sent the T-800 as a last ditch hail mary... so where the hell does the T-1000 come from?
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Or they're from different branches, in that the T-800 changed the timeline enough to improve Skynet's fortunes so it could make the T-1000.
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...That created a 2nd future, where Reese was sent back. Which changed the future to a 3rd version.

I thought it was pretty clear from the movie itself that the discovery of Arnie's CPU and fore-arm is what allowed the machines to advance faster than in the old timeline (not actions taken by Reese or by Arnie while operational). That was why there was a whole diversion of the narrative in T2 to visit Cyberdyne, collect those artifacts, and melt them in the steel factory.
     
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
"Money: the ultimate alternate timeline"
Thats the one where a Terminator goes back in time with a copy of Grey's Sports Almanac right?
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Nov 5, 2014, 11:18 AM
 
Just to make things interesting, once the Jennysis trilogy is done, if it gets that far, James Cameron wants in again.

James Cameron May Totally Re-Invent Terminator Series With Legal Loophole | TheTerminatorFans.com

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Trailer dropped. Jai Courtney has a giant head.
     
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Cautiously optimistic here.
     
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Dec 5, 2014, 12:39 AM
 
I just don't know how the "old" Terminator fits in.

He apparently raised Sarah, but in the original timeline, Sarah's mother was alive. So, if this new Terminator was (as far as we know) the ONLY change in the timeline, how did he raise her, and why? What happened to her mother?

It's like the 2009 Star Trek film - Neo coming into the timeline shouldn't have affected some things, but it did. Sloppy storytelling.

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Dec 5, 2014, 03:44 AM
 
No sign of Matt Smith in the trailer. I've watched it a couple of times now, I don't think it's Terminator 2 level good, but it didn't look Terminator 3 level bad.

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Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
Cautiously optimistic here.
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Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
Cautiously optimistic here.
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No sign of Matt Smith in the trailer. I've watched it a couple of times now, I don't think it's Terminator 2 level good, but it didn't look Terminator 3 level bad.
I...I just...I just don't know how any person could watch that trailer and then come to these conclusions.
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Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton View Post
I...I just...I just don't know how any person could watch that trailer and then come to these conclusions.
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Dec 5, 2014, 04:28 PM
 
that trailer looked ok. new sarah connor is pretty good too.
     
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Dec 5, 2014, 04:58 PM
 
I liked it more when we got to the present, and that there are (potentially) fun alternate time streams happening.

The color palette of the grim, dark future is pretty ridonk.
     
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Dec 5, 2014, 06:37 PM
 
Looks like it will be something good to zone out for a couple of hours with a bucket of popcorn if nothing else. Not sure if I'll see it at the theater or wait till it hits the Apple TV. But I'll definitely watch it.

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Well at least they haven't ruined Jingle All The Way.
     
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Dec 9, 2014, 06:54 PM
 
Did anyone hear they are looking to reboot Highlander now?

Highlander reboot: Tom Cruise targeted to co-star | Den of Geek
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Tom? no. Pierce Brosnan as the old Highlander.

(darn, irish not scottish, I know... )
     
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In a "What do you mean Walter White is the dad from Malcolm In The Middle!!" type moment, I only realised this week that Sarah Connor in this is the same actress as Daenerys the dragon woman in Game Of Thrones.

In my defence all I've seen of GoT are clips, pictures and a few Youtube videos.

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I have yet to watch GoT as well, but I figure her unbleached eyebrows would be a dead giveaway.

Why don't they bleach her eyebrows?!
     
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Dec 10, 2014, 11:25 AM
 
Looks like the Back to the Future 2 of Terminator movies. Also looks terrible.

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I have yet to watch GoT as well, but I figure her unbleached eyebrows would be a dead giveaway.

Why don't they bleach her eyebrows?!
She's supposed to look a bit alien and not quite human (because she is, which you know if you've seen the ending of season 1), but in the show they only went with the bleached hair for some reason.
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I've read the first three books, but that detail must have been lost on me.
     
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He doesn't spell it out, because that scene is supposed to come as a surprise, but...

The Targayens fled to Westeros from a collapsing empire (Valyria), and brought the dragons. Only they could control the dragons, and though it is not spelled out how, they seem to have genetically modified themselves (one of the novellas in particular states that it is hereditary at least), adding some sort of control gene and confering immunity to fire as well. This is why they kept marrying in the family, to keep those genes alive - and as a side effect keeping the insanity around. During the first book, the reasons for the breeding program have been forgotten, but Daenerys pretty much reasons it out - hence here comment about her brother's death, if he had been "a true dragon" he would have survived being dunked in molten gold.
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Tom? no. Pierce Brosnan as the old Highlander.

(darn, irish not scottish, I know... )
The Scottish Connery in the original was playing an Egyptian in the employ of the King of Spain, not a Highlander.
The Highlander was played by the Swiss-French-American Christopher Lambert.

Its obvious when you think about it.

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You can tell how desperate Hollywood is by the popularity of the series they trying to remake. Highlander has cult status at best.
     
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What?

It had a 6 year run on TV. That's beyond cult.
     
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What?

It had a 6 year run on TV. That's beyond cult.
Good point, I forgotten about that.

To me, that's grounds for a new series, though, not a movie. The movies were never that successful.
     
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The first one was awesome though.

Couple of references to it in this weeks Forever.
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Though I liked the movie, I was ultimately more a fan of the show. At least for a few seasons, it definitely jumped the shark.

Christopher Lambert, while he looks awesome, isn't a very engaging actor. Adrian Paul on the other hand, is pretty decent.

WRT Dakar's point about a TV show reboot, it does have the built in "immortal of the week" setup, but I don't know if you could fit it into today's TV business model without having a movie to pull in new fans.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Christopher Lambert, while he looks awesome, isn't a very engaging actor. Adrian Paul on the other hand, is pretty decent.
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What?

It had a 6 year run on TV. That's beyond cult.
Does USA even really count as television? That's a whole network whose primary demographic are people too stoned or too fat to find their remote control.

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Lambert's voice, though it never "fit" the character (a Scottish Frenchman?), somehow made the character at the same time. There was just something about it that was so wrong yet so right.

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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Christopher Lambert, while he looks awesome, isn't a very engaging actor. Adrian Paul on the other hand, is pretty decent.
My first take on Adrian Paul was that he was an atrocious actor. By the end of the series, my opinion was that he was actually a very good actor but that he didn't look or sound like he could be.

Its difficult to put your finger on exactly, but maybe he lacks a certain gravitas or character but he looks like an American soap star and has the voice of an English villain from an American soap too. Its unfortunate for him really.
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
I have yet to watch GoT as well, but I figure her unbleached eyebrows would be a dead giveaway.

Why don't they bleach her eyebrows?!
They can't catch them.

     
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