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Oct 12, 2007, 03:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by mdc View Post
Not enjoying them, or the fact that Nikki is back.
I think Nikki dies soon. Look at who she just went to visit...
     
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Originally Posted by mdc View Post
I guess the Season 1 Candice read the script, realized she was going to die during the third episode, and signed on to do Reaper.
I liked that when Candice died she was fat. In the first season they hinted towards the fact that she wasn't pretty, and that she was using her powers to make everyone see her as pretty.
The comics give her whole origin story. She was quite the fat and ugly angry teen. I'm glad to see they brought that up in the show. Though I still think its all an illusion. The company wouldn't leave an idiot with sylar. Its so damned obvious that he would kill her the moment he found out she had powers.
     
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Oct 13, 2007, 02:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by mdc View Post
Maya and Alejandro seem like Nikki and DL part 2.
Eh, I find them interesting so far. I liked in the last episode that she intentionally killed the two cops — it's a nice bit of moral ambiguity on a show where good and evil and normally represented by Peter (pure as the driven snow) and Sylar (eeevil).

Then again, I thought Nikki seemed interesting at first too, and boy was I wrong.
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Oct 15, 2007, 09:21 PM
 
I hope Nissan realizes that I will never buy a Rogue because I'm sick of seeing those freaking commercials during Heroes. It's over the top.
     
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Oct 15, 2007, 10:33 PM
 
haha yeah... how about the ending to today's show... that would be horrible my freakin nightmare... stuck inside my body unable to get out with some scary dude trying to get me.
     
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Oct 15, 2007, 10:43 PM
 
Much better episode.
     
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Oct 15, 2007, 10:46 PM
 
Definitely. I actually have to see the next episode. First time that's happened so far.
     
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Oct 15, 2007, 10:52 PM
 
I was satisfied with the episode. First one I'm fine with this season.
     
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Oct 15, 2007, 11:49 PM
 
Wow!

this just keeps getting better and better...so much new stuff in this one, they didn't even have time for hiro or peter
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 01:21 AM
 
The show is so much better without Hero.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 03:03 AM
 
I think this episode proves two hypotheses I've had for a while now:

1. The more content is related to Nikki, the more it will suck.

2. The more an episode features Sylar, the more it will be awesome. (I loved that part where the guy tells him that Maya and Whatshisface are killers, and Sylar goes, "Golly, are you sure?")

I loved the whole episode except for the New Orleans bullshit with "Southerners" who say "you guys."
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Oct 16, 2007, 07:00 AM
 
Man, I thought this one sucked pretty bad, too. Glad "you guys" liked it, though.
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
That's why he's gonna kill us. So we got to beat it. Yeah. Before he let's loose the marmosets on us."
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Oct 16, 2007, 01:39 PM
 
I am still curious to know why Sylar killed that Derek dude.
     
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Originally Posted by JansaNova View Post
I am still curious to know why Sylar killed that Derek dude.
Because the guy was going to call the cops on them?
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Oct 16, 2007, 01:42 PM
 
So apparently the writers ran out of superpower and they have to have repeats, like flying and being able to learn quickly?
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 01:43 PM
 
He wants to kill Maya and her brother and decided to get rid of Derek ahead of time.

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Oct 16, 2007, 02:15 PM
 
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So apparently the writers ran out of superpower and they have to have repeats, like flying and being able to learn quickly?
That's a strange assumption. (Also, mimicking was not Charlie's power. Flying and invulnerability are the only repeats we've seen so far.)
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Oct 16, 2007, 02:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
That's a strange assumption. (Also, mimicking was not Charlie's power. Flying and invulnerability are the only repeats we've seen so far.)
I suppose they are basically different, but they do appear to be very similar. Charlie was able to learn or pick up on new things quickly, usually by hearing or reading. Ms. Ghetto-fabulous can learn visually. Either method produces the same results though: acquiring new abilities without having to try.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 02:30 PM
 
Question: Why was Derek going to call the cops? Wasn't he just saying that the border police would be looking for "all of us"?

Oh, it was Sylar that killed Derek? I thought maybe it was leakage from Maya.
As far as we know, Sylar is still "disabled", though, right?
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 02:34 PM
 
Maya never got out of the car, and there was a brick next to his body.

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Oct 16, 2007, 02:34 PM
 
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Question: Why was Derek going to call the cops? Wasn't he just saying that the border police would be looking for "all of us"?
He probably thought they were in for some small reason, not murder.

Oh, it was Sylar that killed Derek? I thought maybe it was leakage from Maya.
As far as we know, Sylar is still "disabled", though, right?
There was a bloody brick on the ground next to him. No need for powers.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 02:54 PM
 
Ah, thanks. That's what I get for watching furtively in a smooshed little window at work.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 03:18 PM
 
Anyone notice the cockroach crawling on the Derek-killing brick? The same cockroach crawling down the drain with Sylar's blood at the end of Season 1?
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 03:20 PM
 
Yes.
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
That's why he's gonna kill us. So we got to beat it. Yeah. Before he let's loose the marmosets on us."
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Oct 16, 2007, 03:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
I suppose they are basically different, but they do appear to be very similar. Charlie was able to learn or pick up on new things quickly, usually by hearing or reading. Ms. Ghetto-fabulous can learn visually. Either method produces the same results though: acquiring new abilities without having to try.
As far as I can tell, Charlie couldn't actually intuit how to do new things — she just never forgot anything. Ghetto Girl can apparently acquire skills just by seeing somebody use them. I don't think Charlie could have acquired that leaping kick by reading a book where somebody did it. Ghetto Girl's power is more similar to Peter's than Charlie's if you ask me.
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Oct 16, 2007, 04:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by adamfishercox View Post
Anyone notice the cockroach crawling on the Derek-killing brick? The same cockroach crawling down the drain with Sylar's blood at the end of Season 1?
I saw it, but didn't think of it as the same one.

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As far as I can tell, Charlie couldn't actually intuit how to do new things — she just never forgot anything. Ghetto Girl can apparently acquire skills just by seeing somebody use them. I don't think Charlie could have acquired that leaping kick by reading a book where somebody did it. Ghetto Girl's power is more similar to Peter's than Charlie's if you ask me.
Okay, that makes sense.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 06:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by adamfishercox View Post
Anyone notice the cockroach crawling on the Derek-killing brick? The same cockroach crawling down the drain with Sylar's blood at the end of Season 1?
Yep, that's the Sylar cockroach. I believe we've seen it a few more times.

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Oct 16, 2007, 07:56 PM
 
I think Ghetto girl needs to be watching some Bruce Lee in her spare time.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 07:58 PM
 
FTR, her name is Monica. They don't appear to live in the ghetto.

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Oct 16, 2007, 08:27 PM
 
She (Monica) has the most interesting power so far. I also thought it was a lot like Peter's, but just for normal skills. I'm also interested to see if Nathan Petrelli's sons have any powers. I know kung fu. Sylar is becoming too evil to be interesting.
     
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Oct 16, 2007, 09:57 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit View Post
Because the guy was going to call the cops on them?
Well, Sylar insisted for him to. I wonder if Sylar did it so he could eventually obtain both Maya and Alejandro's abilities...
     
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Oct 17, 2007, 07:02 PM
 
I skipped the last episode and didn't miss it. If something starts to happen, I'll watch but not impressed with this season at all.

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Oct 17, 2007, 07:06 PM
 
the last episode was the only one worth watching so far
     
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Oct 22, 2007, 10:03 PM
 
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Oct 22, 2007, 10:20 PM
 
Haha. yeah, that was the only good storyline this episode.
     
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Oct 22, 2007, 10:31 PM
 
Damn it, why doesn't stupid NBC.com post the episodes immediately? What is this "next morning" garbage? Don't they realize that we live in an age of instant gratification?
     
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Oct 22, 2007, 10:32 PM
 
You COULD watch it when it comes on.... instantly...
     
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Oct 22, 2007, 10:37 PM
 
This second season seems to pick up the pace after all. It's getting interesting at last. It also looks like Peter Petrelli is coming to my hometown of Montreal in next week episode. Hi did a "vision of the future" painting showing the corner of Blvd. St-Laurent and St-Jacques street. Surprisingly enough, it's an actual street corner in Old Montreal. I saw so many American movies that have scenes happening in Montreal where they have geographical nonsense. This one looked right for once.
     
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I think Ghetto girl needs to be watching some Bruce Lee in her spare time.
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That's exactly what I was thinking. I was laughing out loud when she watched and tried some Bruce Lee moves.
     
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Oct 23, 2007, 05:17 AM
 
Except it wasn't really Bruce Lee. It was Jason Scott Lee portraying Bruce Lee in Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story.
     
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Oct 23, 2007, 09:18 AM
 
What if Monica can only learn from TV? That'd be awesome!
She'd end up with a rather eclectic set of skills -- gourmet cooking, forensic pathology, and pole-dancing, for starters.
     
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Originally Posted by Mithras View Post
What if Monica can only learn from TV?
She learned the piano from sitting next to Micah. She also learned double dutch from watching the girls on the street.
     
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Oct 23, 2007, 09:32 AM
 
Yeah, that should have been in the subjunctive: What if Monica could only learn from TV?
     
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Oct 23, 2007, 11:44 AM
 
Loved the episode... The Monica thing was kind of cheap, they definetly took the easy way out. I was excited to see her to a kickflip or a dunk, but she "double-dutched" which I'm sure she already knew how to do.

Other than that, liked everything else... I can't believe Suresh took Molly to the company. Bad move. I also can't believe Parkmans dad! I wonder if it is a seperate power he has, or if it really is an extension of Matt's power. It seemed more like (insert name of girl that Sylar just killed and could make illusions)'s power than anything else though.
     
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Originally Posted by Nodnarb View Post
I wonder if it is a seperate power he has, or if it really is an extension of Matt's power. It seemed more like (insert name of girl that Sylar just killed and could make illusions)'s power than anything else though.
Candice's power was creating illusions visible by anyone around. This seems simillar, but I believe it's all in the mind of the individual victim to the power.
     
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Oct 23, 2007, 12:07 PM
 
Not to mention her double-dutching wasn't exactly mind-blowing. I mean, couldn't she at least have worked in one of her Bruce Lee flips into the routine?

And, uh, Micah is a little young for her, right? Despite that funny glow he gets on his face when he watches her?
     
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Originally Posted by dlefebvre View Post
Candice's power was creating illusions visible by anyone around. This seems simillar, but I believe it's all in the mind of the individual victim to the power.
Good point, that didn't click for me. You're right, Candice's power changed to one illusion for anyone she wanted. Parkman's dad seems as if it's in the mind (that's how he got to molly), and it also seems like it's that particular persons worst fear. I would say they're sleeping while they're in his nightmare (as it appears with molly) but that wouldn't work because parkman and nathan were physically fighting eachother while they were in their own respective nightmares, but in the same room. hmm...
     
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Except it wasn't really Bruce Lee. It was Jason Scott Lee portraying Bruce Lee in Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story.
I laughed about that too, good episode.

Also, JSL knew absolutely zip about martial arts before doing that film, pretty surprising considering how well he did.
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