[gregpins]

Wondering about things like Adobe CS, MS Office, etc. Are they already Tiger-ready or are updates needed?

[polendo]

They better be darn ready.. i already lost SPSS to Panther on my G3 iBook.

[Millennium]

Originally posted by gregpins:
Wondering about things like Adobe CS, MS Office, etc. Are they already Tiger-ready or are updates needed?

Few application vendors have said anything one way or the other. It is usually safe to assume that most apps are Tiger-ready unless the vendor has stated otherwise. Although Tiger has many new features for developers, the existing features haven't changed very much (from a developer's standpoint, anyway). Most big-name apps don't pull very many low-level tricks, so they should be able to just go straight across.

The one class of apps where I would not make this assumption would be those apps which attempt to modify a running system. Haxies are obviously in this category, as are anything which uses mach_inject (like QuicKeys) or SIMBL plugins (like PithHelmet). Check with the makers of these apps if you use them. In most cases, if an app such as these needs an update then that update has already been released. You can apply those updates now, so that you won't have to worry about them when Tiger is released.

[BZ]

I am concerned with the Palm syncing which always seems to have trouble with an OS upgrade.

BZ

[Angus_D]

Softpress has released an update for Freeway.

[jlazo]

Colorbyte has mentioned to some customers that they are unsure of compatibility with Panther and v6. Bummer, we run the RIP for two wide format printers from Macs.

[Camali]

If your worried about Palm Desktop, I switched over to Missing Sync just recently, and its soo much better.

[BZ]

Originally posted by Camali:
If your worried about Palm Desktop, I switched over to Missing Sync just recently, and its soo much better.

Ahh.. but $$$..

After buying Tiger Family I am out of money.

BZ

[RayK]

What about FCP 4.5? I am a lowly college student and have not the funds to invest in FCP 5, but I do want and have pre-ordered Tiger.

[Don Pickett]

What about Aquamon? I needs my Aquamon.

[goMac]

Originally posted by gregpins:
Wondering about things like Adobe CS, MS Office, etc. Are they already Tiger-ready or are updates needed?

Everything major works just fine. Minor apps have show stopper problems all across the board.

[lookmark]

Well, most everything major.

http://www.macminute.com/2005/04/12/mac-bu/

But that's OK, in just 2-3 months there'll be an update!

[RayK]

Originally posted by lookmark:

But that's OK, in just 2-3 months there'll be an update!

That's exactly what I thought. Two to three months to fix problems with something that has been in Dev hands in some form since last July? What crap.... Too bad I use this crap...

[JHromadka]

Originally posted by lookmark:
Well, most everything major.

http://www.macminute.com/2005/04/12/mac-bu/

But that's OK, in just 2-3 months there'll be an update!

I just hope that Office X works ok -- haven't found a need for 2004's features yet.

[MartiNZ]

Originally posted by JHromadka:
I just hope that Office X works ok -- haven't found a need for 2004's features yet.

Office v.X looks nicer; 2004 is a bit better compatibility-wise, but you have to turn off so many 'features' to get just what you want, that I can see why you'd hang back. All that said, I don't see why it wouldn't work.

[Mafia]

does anyone know if desktop manager works on tiger. i dunno what i would do without multiple desktops.

[goMac]

Originally posted by Mafia:
does anyone know if desktop manager works on tiger. i dunno what i would do without multiple desktops.

Which one? I heard You Control Desktops (I think) is broken.

[Randman]

I rarely use VPC so I can wait for a fix on any problems. But I'm glad to hear that Office will work fine.

And it sounds as if the unsanity stuff and gui area is also going to be right along.

Here's a question. Will Konfabulator work with Tiger, or will the Dashboard widgets supercede Konfab? I haven't followed DB much since I never had a beta of Tiger. Are most of the Konfab widgets going to have duplicates in Tiger?

[Geobunny]

Originally posted by goMac:
Which one? I heard You Control Desktops (I think) is broken.

I suspect he's talking about this one http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/ I sincerely hope it does work, because it's amazing and I'd be lost without it. Any devs here with more money than I who can enlighten us?

[Edit: I'm a grammar nazi]

[MallyMal]

My list of apps that HAVE to work for me...

1. Macromedia MX Suite (not MX 2004)

2. Photoshop 7

3. Transmit 3.0.2

4. Firefox

5. VNC Dimension

[cc_foo]

My list:

1. Bittorrent
2. Bittorrent
3. VLC

[RevEvs]

Originally posted by Geobunny:
I suspect he's talking about this one http://wsmanager.sourceforge.net/ I sincerely hope it does work, because it's amazing and I'd be lost without it. Any devs here with more money than I who can enlighten us?

[Edit: I'm a grammar nazi]

Just FYI, as wsmanager is not updated much, some peeps have gone and thrown together Virtue - even nicer than wsmanager!

see here : http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/

[georgeacrump]

I thought I heard that the CISCO VPN clinet will not work. Can anyone confirm or deny?

[Geobunny]

Originally posted by RevEvs:
Just FYI, as wsmanager is not updated much, some peeps have gone and thrown together Virtue - even nicer than wsmanager!
see here : http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/

Thanks for the heads-up, I'll go take a look.

BTW, nice sig!

[MaxPower]

Originally posted by Randman:
... Here's a question. Will Konfabulator work with Tiger, or will the Dashboard widgets supercede Konfab? I haven't followed DB much since I never had a beta of Tiger. Are most of the Konfab widgets going to have duplicates in Tiger?

I would assume that as soon as its in the hands of web monkeys everywhere, we'll see a glut of dashboard widgets. Dashboard has some clear advantages:

1) memory and performance
2) free with Tiger
3) each dashboard widget is a safari page.
4) anything that can be done inside safari (javascript, plugins, XMLHttpRequest, flash, etc)

Check out this daringfireball entry for a pretty good essay on both DB and Konfab, written right about the time everybody was freaking out that Apple ripped of Konfabulator. daringfireball article

[ThisGuy]

diskwarrior?

[goMac]

Originally posted by MallyMal:
My list of apps that HAVE to work for me...

1. Macromedia MX Suite (not MX 2004)

2. Photoshop 7

3. Transmit 3.0.2

4. Firefox

5. VNC Dimension

Those should all work fine.

[philcozz]

Originally Posted by polendo

They better be darn ready.. i already lost SPSS to Panther on my G3 iBook.

I've had no problem with SPSS and Panther on my PowerBook, but I really hope it continues to work with Tiger.

Anybody know?

[UnixMac]

This isn't really a major app, but what about QuickSilver? Should I uninstall it?

[wtmcgee]

I'm curious as to whether or not I'll even need quicksilver with spotlight... can't wait to try it and find out.

[The DJ]

There is an issue with VLC in Tiger. Some of the menu's don't update properly. The upcoming version of VLC will fix it. With 0.8.1 you can circumvent by opening the Help menu and then going to other menu's, (keeping the menu open).

[bernt]

Originally Posted by philcozz

I've had no problem with SPSS and Panther on my PowerBook, but I really hope it continues to work with Tiger.

Anybody know?

For SPSS to work with Panther and G3, you have to upgrade to SPSS 11.0.3. When it comes to SPSS and 10.4, it is unfortunately a no-go...

erlend

[CharlesS]

Originally Posted by ThisGuy

diskwarrior?

It'll still work from a Panther boot CD, so this wouldn't really be something I'd be worried about.

[philcozz]

Originally Posted by bernt

For SPSS to work with Panther and G3, you have to upgrade to SPSS 11.0.3. When it comes to SPSS and 10.4, it is unfortunately a no-go...

erlend

That is very bad news. Hopefully a fix will come soon after Tiger hits.

[bernt]

Originally Posted by philcozz

That is very bad news. Hopefully a fix will come soon after Tiger hits.

I would not bet on it, the fix for Panther did not come until this January...

erlend

[Laurence]

Well, I don't know about the official client, but Azureus should run better with the new Java 1.5 core.

Originally Posted by cc_foo

My list:

1. Bittorrent
2. Bittorrent
3. VLC

[ThisGuy]

Originally Posted by CharlesS

It'll still work from a Panther boot CD, so this wouldn't really be something I'd be worried about.

true, but i run it from my mac to diagnose other machines in target mode.

[Moose]

Originally Posted by Laurence

Well, I don't know about the official client, but Azureus should run better with the new Java 1.5 core.

"Better."

[philcozz]

Originally Posted by bernt

I would not bet on it, the fix for Panther did not come until this January...

erlend

So, in order to keep running SPSS (which I need) and ALSO move into Tiger, I should be able to partition my 30GB PowerBook into 3 drives; 1 with Tiger, 1 small one with 10.3.8 (and SPSS), and 1 really small one with OS9 for the RARE classic requirement, right? This way, to use SPSS I'd just have to change my start-up drive.

[Geobunny]

Originally Posted by philcozz

So, in order to keep running SPSS (which I need) and ALSO move into Tiger, I should be able to partition my 30GB PowerBook into 3 drives

Yes, but backup and be very careful when you do this. In order to partition your drive, you need to completely erase what's on it - unfortunately, on the Mac, there's no way (that I know of) to partition a drive and keep its contents intact. Linux can do it, as can windoze, but not the Mac

Sorry if you already knew that, but not everyone does.

[philcozz]

Originally Posted by Geobunny

Yes, but backup and be very careful when you do this. In order to partition your drive, you need to completely erase what's on it - unfortunately, on the Mac, there's no way (that I know of) to partition a drive and keep its contents intact. Linux can do it, as can windoze, but not the Mac

Sorry if you already knew that, but not everyone does.

Thanks for the advice...

Yeah, I was going to do a clean install of Tiger, relying on my external LaCie for back-up.

Thanks again for the heads-up.

[- - e r i k - -]

As of A393 StuffitExpander 7.0.1 didn't work. Which led me to wonder why people still use that POS to distribute software.

[bernt]

Originally Posted by philcozz

So, in order to keep running SPSS (which I need) and ALSO move into Tiger, I should be able to partition my 30GB PowerBook into 3 drives; 1 with Tiger, 1 small one with 10.3.8 (and SPSS), and 1 really small one with OS9 for the RARE classic requirement, right? This way, to use SPSS I'd just have to change my start-up drive.

Yes, that is what I'm planning to do, expect that OS9 partition.

erlend

[bernt]

Originally Posted by Geobunny

Yes, but backup and be very careful when you do this. In order to partition your drive, you need to completely erase what's on it - unfortunately, on the Mac, there's no way (that I know of) to partition a drive and keep its contents intact. Linux can do it, as can windoze, but not the Mac

Sorry if you already knew that, but not everyone does.

You are not quite right there. Do a google search on iPartition. Haven't tested it myself, but it is supposed to do exactly what you're looking for.

erlend

[MrForgetable]

i need:

adium x
quicksilver

i'm still debating whether or not tiger is worth the upgrade. 70 dollars for a high school student is a lot after he just went backrupt for buying the computer ..

[CaptainHaddock]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

As of A393 StuffitExpander 7.0.1 didn't work. Which led me to wonder why people still use that POS to distribute software.

That sucks. I use StuffitExpander to zip files without hidden resource forks for Windows-based clients.

[JLL]

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

As of A393 StuffitExpander 7.0.1 didn't work. Which led me to wonder why people still use that POS to distribute software.

7.0.1? That's a pretty old version anyway unless it's a typo.

Btw. SE expands compressed files - it can't be used to compress and distribute files

[Sharky K.]

Originally Posted by JLL

7.0.1? That's a pretty old version anyway unless it's a typo.

Btw. SE expands compressed files - it can't be used to compress and distribute files

I hope Apple stops shipping the os with stuffit expander soon.

[CharlesS]

Originally Posted by Sharky K.

I hope Apple stops shipping the os with stuffit expander soon.

Given how many apps are distributed in .sit format, I don't see how they could do that and not cause a hell of a lot of confusion for new users.

Not to mention the fact that there's no GUI utility that comes with the OS that can decompress .tgz, .tbz, and many other formats...

[theolein]

Originally Posted by jlazo

Colorbyte has mentioned to some customers that they are unsure of compatibility with Panther and v6. Bummer, we run the RIP for two wide format printers from Macs.

If you use your machines for production purposes it pays to be conservative and simply wait until all known compatibility and other bugs in the new OS have been guinea pigged by others and ironed out. It's never a good idea to jump to the newest of the new when you're doing production.