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Since EBCDIC · Jun 24, 2002, 07:23 PM

C'mon, someone had to do it :-)

Now that OmniWeb 4.1 is finally out (<a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003899" target="_blank">discuss amongst yourselves</a>) it's time to look forward to 5.0.

Of course I'm guessing that it'll be a bit until we see little sp droppings, but it'll be soooooo good.

Rickster, et alia, thanks so much for the 4.1sp family and we're excited about seeing 5.0sp1 hit the doors! YGFR!

starfleetX · Jun 24, 2002, 07:40 PM

hot DAMN 5.0 sp 1 is already out!

And this thing as fast as hell! No more slow table rendering! I'm amazed at what you guys have done!
It's very crash prone and leaking memory like no tomorrow, but it shows incredible potential.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

tojo · Jun 24, 2002, 08:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by starfleetX:
hot DAMN 5.0 sp 1 is already out!

And this thing as fast as hell! No more slow table rendering! I'm amazed at what you guys have done!
It's very crash prone and leaking memory like no tomorrow, but it shows incredible potential.

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Ok, I know.. stupid question, but...

Where do I get 5.0 sp1 ?

--
tojo

frawgz · Jun 24, 2002, 08:32 PM

<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/</a>

Developer · Jun 24, 2002, 08:36 PM

It was funny the first time:

<a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377" target="_blank">http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377</a>

chris v · Jun 24, 2002, 08:38 PM

The CSS/Javascript/popup/rollovers on my bank's secure page don't align correctly in OW 5 SP 1! This app is CR@P! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Seriously, can't we give it a 10 minute break?

OTOH, if we start now, we can get this thread up to 1655 posts by the time 5.0 final is out.

CV

frawgz · Jun 24, 2002, 08:41 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Developer:
It was funny the first time:

<a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377" target="_blank">http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377</a><hr /></blockquote>That one wasn't for reals <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Guy Incognito · Jun 24, 2002, 10:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Developer:
It was funny the first time:

<a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377" target="_blank">http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=37;t=003377</a><hr /></blockquote>No...apparently it wasn't even funny the first time.

Since EBCDIC · Jun 25, 2002, 12:22 AM

Wow, who peed in your corn flakes this morning?

[I know Guy is annoyed because OW keeps blowing up on his machine, but did everyone else take a downer today? Between the sun outside, gardening, my kids, and OW 4.1, it's been a great day!]

I started this thread so we'd have a home as 5.0 became reality, not as a joke thread. (Actually I didn't see the other thread, or I wouldn't have started this one.)

I'm slowly going through my list of broken sites and when I find one that doesn't work in 4.1 I'll post it here, and hopefully as 5.0 sps appear I'll (we'll) be able to check them off. I see others have started to do the same here.

Didn't anyone ever mention that if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem? I know there's great power in aimlessly bitching and whining, but you guys overdo it, even for the Internet. Sheesh!

Jerommeke · Jun 25, 2002, 03:38 AM

I guess it will have a better icon.

Gul Banana · Jun 25, 2002, 08:53 AM

I don't think there will be _any_ world ills it won't cure. If only 4.1 can hold off the marauding forces of Mozilla/Chimera for long enough...

Since EBCDIC · Jun 25, 2002, 11:30 AM

Okay, here's another <a href="http://www.worldtravelcenter.com/eng/information/travelex/tx_travel/qq_travel.cfm" target="_blank">page</a> [worldtravelcenter.com] which doesn't work in 4.1. The day-of-month pull-down seems to always return to 1 (for me at least).

Oh, and I've noticed lots of broken image icons while surfing through MacNN, something I didn't see in 4.1sp91.

KidRed · Jun 25, 2002, 11:35 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Since EBCDIC:
Wow, who peed in your corn flakes this morning?

[I know Guy is annoyed because OW keeps blowing up on his machine, but did everyone else take a downer today? Between the sun outside, gardening, my kids, and OW 4.1, it's been a great day!]

I started this thread so we'd have a home as 5.0 became reality, not as a joke thread. (Actually I didn't see the other thread, or I wouldn't have started this one.)

I'm slowly going through my list of broken sites and when I find one that doesn't work in 4.1 I'll post it here, and hopefully as 5.0 sps appear I'll (we'll) be able to check them off. I see others have started to do the same here.

Didn't anyone ever mention that if you're not part of the solution then you're part of the problem? I know there's great power in aimlessly bitching and whining, but you guys overdo it, even for the Internet. Sheesh!<hr /></blockquote>You'll get use to it eventually. You'll also know which ones usually start the whine and which ones are really rude. You understand that some are young, some are immature and some are braver behind a computer screen.

All in all, we all love macs (well, except for Kelly and a few others)

ambush · Jun 25, 2002, 12:07 PM

In the mean time, just use mozilla cause it rocks 4.1 , really.
Tabbed browsing !!!! fast!!!! standards!!! css!!!

FLAME!!!!!

MrBS · Jun 25, 2002, 08:18 PM

While it's going to be a long time before we see any sneaky peeks, and hopefully a week or two before they buckle down again, here's one little thing I hope they include in 5.0.

A priority lightning bolt. A few different levels might be good, but even just one different priority would be nice. I, and by reading the boards, lots of other people use the "check for updates" for lots of daily sites. Be they news, comics or something else, they're stuff that's updated pretty much every day. OW makes it really easy to keep abreast of those sites. What would be nice if you could check a little box in the bookmark prefs to have it be a "blue lightning" check for updates. Basically, if one of those sites were updated the lightning bolt in the dock would be blue. That would tip you off that a special site (probably one that didn't regularly update) had updated. You get kind of desensitized to the green bolt when the daily sites keep it up around 20. So instead of having to click and hold on the dock icon and scan through all the listed sites periodically it would be nice if the bolt just changed colors.
~BS

MrBS · Jun 25, 2002, 08:20 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ambush:
In the mean time, just use mozilla cause it rocks 4.1 , really.
Tabbed browsing !!!! fast!!!! standards!!! css!!!

FLAME!!!!!<hr /></blockquote>UGLY!!! BLOATED!!! NO SERVICES!!!

~BS

Gul Banana · Jun 25, 2002, 08:27 PM

Yes, *prefers a 3 MB download to a 17.5 one*.

MrBS · Jun 25, 2002, 08:44 PM

I think everyone really underestimates the value of having a browser (or any application) designed specifically for OS X. It adds so many small things that add up to a good experience. Not to mention, OW is multi-threaded. Sitting here at work on a (Dude! You're Getting a) Dell it makes me cry when the whole machine stops responding (can't even move the mouse) when I open up a thread on these forums.
~BS

bmedina · Jun 25, 2002, 09:40 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />UGLY!!!<hr /></blockquote>THEMEABLE!!! Try one of the nice OS X themes that are available.
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> BLOATED!!! <hr /></blockquote>And how does said bloat affect you personally? If you say it uses too much of you computer's resources, tell me: did you run the OmniWeb sneaky peeks when they had the memory leaks?
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> NO SERVICES!!! <hr /></blockquote>Well, you've got me on that one.

<blockquote>quote:<hr /> I think everyone really underestimates the value of having a browser (or any application) designed specifically for OS X. <hr /></blockquote>No, not even the Mozilla developers themselves. That's why some of them have started work on Chimera.
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> OW is multi-threaded. Sitting here at work on a (Dude! You're Getting a) Dell it makes me cry when the whole machine stops responding (can't even move the mouse) when I open up a thread on these forums. <hr /></blockquote>If the whole machine locks up, that's more indicative of a poor implementation of multitasking on the OS level, not a poorly-threaded browser.

Guy Incognito · Jun 25, 2002, 10:18 PM

Hey, you guys wanna know something!??! I just farted! Thought I'd let you know.

Spirit_VW · Jun 25, 2002, 10:32 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by bmedina:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />UGLY!!!<hr /></blockquote>THEMEABLE!!! Try one of the nice OS X themes that are available.
<blockquote>quote:<hr /> BLOATED!!! <hr /></blockquote>And how does said bloat affect you personally? If you say it uses too much of you computer's resources, tell me: did you run the OmniWeb sneaky peeks when they had the memory leaks?
<hr /></blockquote>It doesn't matter which OS X theme I use - I've tried them all, and Mozilla still doesn't feel right.

As far as bloat goes, I'm on a 56k modem - and a 3.something megabyte download for OmniWeb sounds a lot better to me than a 17.something megabyte one for Mozilla.

I like the Gecko engine of Mozilla, just not the interface. I hold hope for Chimera, but it's got a ways to go before I can use it day-to-day.

Guy Incognito · Jun 25, 2002, 11:43 PM

Can you smell it?

dont.wanna.tell · Jun 26, 2002, 10:43 AM

Uuuuuhhgg....

*holding my nose in Berlin*

;-)

Gee4orce · Jun 26, 2002, 11:39 AM

Wow - 23 posts in this thread and absolutely no content whatsoever

chris v · Jun 26, 2002, 01:17 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gee4orce:
Wow - 23 posts in this thread and absolutely no content whatsoever<hr /></blockquote>We gotta get it to 1655 before the final release somehow!

CV

hew · Jun 27, 2002, 01:12 AM

Well since no one really knows anything about it, it's kind of hard to have any content.

Gul Banana · Jun 27, 2002, 04:01 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by chris v:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gee4orce:
Wow - 23 posts in this thread and absolutely no content whatsoever<hr /></blockquote>We gotta get it to 1655 before the final release somehow!

CV<hr /></blockquote>Oh, I don't think that we'll have any problems with that... bear in mind, the 4.1 sp thread got to 1655 from the time of the release of the first sneakypeek to the time of the release of 4.1final; that time is likely to be larger for 5.0, and in addition it will be ages before any start showing up at all.

JKT · Jun 27, 2002, 05:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gul Banana:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by chris v:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gee4orce:
Wow - 23 posts in this thread and absolutely no content whatsoever<hr /></blockquote>We gotta get it to 1655 before the final release somehow!

CV<hr /></blockquote>Oh, I don't think that we'll have any problems with that... bear in mind, the 4.1 sp thread got to 1655 from the time of the release of the first sneakypeek to the time of the release of 4.1final; that time is likely to be larger for 5.0, and in addition it will be ages before any start showing up at all.<hr /></blockquote>Actually, that was just the second 4.1 sp thread (which started at sp28 or 29) - the first one was somewhere between 800 and 900 posts long... so we'd have to get to the region of 2500 posts to match 4.1 <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

[ 06-27-2002, 05:58 AM: Message edited by: JKT ]

Gul Banana · Jun 27, 2002, 11:07 PM

Gosh. Better do my bit, then.