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Sep 29, 2011, 12:13 PM
 
Should Apple release iTunes for Android? Why let a competitor marketplace develop when they already control the ideal music store experience? —Just wondering...
     
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Sep 29, 2011, 01:30 PM
 
No. The reason to not port iTunes is to use iTunes as a selling point...kind of like those exclusive games that only come out on one gaming console.
     
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Sep 29, 2011, 04:13 PM
 
Apple doesn't make money on iTunes. They barely break even - the point is that it sells hardware. Why help sell Android phones?
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Sep 29, 2011, 08:39 PM
 
I was just wondering...
     
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Sep 30, 2011, 06:31 PM
 
Apple likes the idea that when you switch from your iPhone to an Android device you loose all your movies, TV shows and some of your music. Basically a large part of your media investment gets erased the minute you buy a competitors product.
     
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Sep 30, 2011, 10:59 PM
 
Not only that, but you lose your movies, TV shows, and some of your music too.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 04:34 AM
 
https://market.android.com/details?i...yncr4Mac&hl=en

They have a Wi-Fi add-on too, which is nice.

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Oct 1, 2011, 09:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by chabig View Post
Not only that, but you lose your movies, TV shows, and some of your music too.
Yeah, all part of the plan everyone uses to lock the user base in to their platform.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 11:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by chabig View Post
Not only that, but you lose your movies, TV shows, and some of your music too.
Restrictions on music have been loosened, though, so you don't lose that.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 11:23 AM
 
And the movies are DRM'd because the content owners require it.

Besides, given the user satisfaction rates for iOS and the high level of repurchase, lock-in doesn't seem like a huge problem for Apple.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 11:36 AM
 
for Apple's customers.

That it's not a problem for Apple would seem to be fundamental to their business model.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 11:57 AM
 
Yeah but I was trying to make the point that Apple's customers don't want to leave the ecosystem in general, so iTunes cross-compatibility is not necessary a huge concern right now, so most people aren't "locked in" until they realize they want to leave, which is low.
     
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Oct 1, 2011, 03:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by cgc View Post
No. The reason to not port iTunes is to use iTunes as a selling point...kind of like those exclusive games that only come out on one gaming console.
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Apple doesn't make money on iTunes. They barely break even - the point is that it sells hardware. Why help sell Android phones?
But there is a PC version, so aren't they "helping" Microsoft sell Windows PCs?
     
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Originally Posted by CalMark View Post
But there is a PC version, so aren't they "helping" Microsoft sell Windows PCs?
a) Microsoft doesn't sell PCs.

b) Apple sells iPhones, iPads, and iPods. Up until Tuesday, you need iTunes to operate them.



Which is more important to their bottom line: NOT helping to sell Windows PCs, or actually selling iPads, iPhones, iPods, and iTunes content to Windows users?
     
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Oct 2, 2011, 07:58 AM
 
It's not a bad question to asked if you're not otherwise informed on the topic. Android could really use an iTunes like media management system. The short answer is, Apple has nearly zero incentive to make iTunes compatible with Android hardware - it would only help Android sales and add precious little to Apple's bottom line while eliminating potential future Apple hardware sales.

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Oct 2, 2011, 08:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by CalMark View Post
But there is a PC version, so aren't they "helping" Microsoft sell Windows PCs?
Only by making it easier for iPod users to buy a PC (iTunes Windows existed long before the iPhone). Since Windows had a ninety-something percent market share at that point, the number of Windows users who might buy an iPod must have been way larger than the number of iPod Mac users who stayed on the Mac only for the sake of iTunes.

Note that the iPod was Mac exclusive at first - a selling point for the Mac, as it were - but Apple changed their mind and found it more important to sell iPods than Macs.
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Oct 2, 2011, 08:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
Only by making it easier for iPod users to buy a PC (iTunes Windows existed long before the iPhone). Since Windows had a ninety-something percent market share at that point, the number of Windows users who might buy an iPod must have been way larger than the number of iPod Mac users who stayed on the Mac only for the sake of iTunes.

Note that the iPod was Mac exclusive at first - a selling point for the Mac, as it were - but Apple changed their mind and found it more important to sell iPods than Macs.
We saw Apple change their focus from computers to electronics when they changed the name of their company from "Apple Computers" to "Apple".
     
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Oct 2, 2011, 11:51 AM
 
That didn't happen until long after the iPod had exploded, though.
     
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Oct 2, 2011, 05:01 PM
 
Right, I didn't say it happened overnight, but it was a sign Apple's focus had changed from computers to cool gadgets that people buy a lot more often.
     
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Oct 2, 2011, 05:17 PM
 
Ah, yes, agreed. It was in January 2007, btw - when Jobs first demoed the iPhone.

Take a look at the graph above to see what happened next.
     
   
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