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View Poll Results: Tim Tebow: Your Opinions on the Mile High Messiah
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He's the real deal. Great QB in the making. Mile High Messiah! 3 votes (9.09%)
He's an okay QB, but too limited for a long-term solution. 9 votes (27.27%)
He's a terrible QB. This stupid streak can't go on much longer. 7 votes (21.21%)
He's a genuine Christian and great guy. 7 votes (21.21%)
He's another Christian fraud. I don't buy the nice guy act. 1 votes (3.03%)
He's just a naive kid. Give him a few years. 2 votes (6.06%)
I really, really like him. It's a borderline crush. 1 votes (3.03%)
I like him, partially because of the people that hate him. 5 votes (15.15%)
I don't care about him. It's ultimately a non-story. 9 votes (27.27%)
I don't care about him. The conservative Christians pushing his story. 5 votes (15.15%)
I hate him. Loathe him. Despise him. 1 votes (3.03%)
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Dec 12, 2011, 12:56 PM
 
Only a few sports stories from the past ten years come to mind when I think of what could possibly compare to the Tebow phenomenon: the 2004 Red Sox, LeBron James' move to Miami, and Tiger Woods' reverse Thanksgiving parade.



So what are the thoughts of the 'NN denizens? Is Tebow the genuine article? I've provided plenty of options on the poll, and made them multiple choice to allow for certain combinations, but if they still don't cover your opinion, please comment with your thoughts.

Is he a great guy and genuine Christian whose play is somehow galvanizing his team? Is this a case of crazy divine intervention? Is it dumb luck? Is Tebow just another fraud, both personally and professionally? Is he too limited as a quarterback? Will this all end next week against Tom Brady and the Patriots?
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 01:10 PM
 
He's gotten lucky, and this pattern of 4th quarter success is not sustainable (to use a baseball analogy, it would be like a guy had a crazy high batting average with runners in scoring position). But by all accounts he's a very nice guy.

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Dec 12, 2011, 01:18 PM
 
Mediocre QB but getting a little better I think. Will to win is tremendous but it can't be denied that much of the luck has come in the form of bad luck/decisions by the other team, or great plays by teammates - i.e. not from his doing.

As for the Christian thing - good for him, and great role model if he can keep it up. I generally tend to feel that pro atheletes' extraordinary pressure of readily available sex with incredibly hot and willing women is too much for any man to bear and he must inevitably succumb in spectacular fashion, but...he's made it this far. Impressive all around.
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Dec 12, 2011, 01:23 PM
 
He's the Second Coming all right... of Ryan Leaf!
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 01:28 PM
 
I respect his lifestyle, especially the apparently-lifelong commitment to the Philippines, and I think he's a tremendous story, but I'm reserving my judgment concerning his QB abilities until 2012 and 2013.

One thing to remember: quarterbacks benefit tremendously from their first true off-season, and Tebow was robbed of that this year. I read today that John Elway is going to be working with after the season's over, focusing primarily on his footwork and delivery.

Fix the footwork, improve the arm, and find yourself a winning QB. He might never be an MVP, but I think he can win 9, 10, 11 games a season and keep the Broncos in the playoff mix for years to come, especially with their defense. Von Miller is amazing.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 01:31 PM
 
I have no idea what this is all on about, but since the gentleman holding that ball in the picture provided doesn't appear to be Troy Aikman, I'm going to say "no".
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Dec 12, 2011, 02:14 PM
 
Where is the option for not caring about American football?

He was at my church on Saturday and everyone was mobbing him. Insane.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 02:27 PM
 
I figured abstaining from voting counted.

No kidding. They have him speak or anything?
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:05 PM
 
Here's the best take so far:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...g-our-country/

Gotta be better than all the dwarves and dwarfettes on that one side of the equation...
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
I figured abstaining from voting counted.

No kidding. They have him speak or anything?
He was just attending the Christmas program. He's spoken a few times for various ministry's events though.
     
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Originally Posted by amazing View Post
Here's the best take so far:

Tebow for President? Quarterbacking Our Country - ABC News

Gotta be better than all the dwarves and dwarfettes on that one side of the equation...
Really nice.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:23 PM
 
His will to win is unbelievably strong, and if you combine that with faith you have a combination that's almost unheard of.

That aside, he's a good QB with bad mechanics, but he'll get better. Why? Because he won't quit. He doesn't know how to quit. That's why he's successful now, nothing can destroy his belief in himself.
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:25 PM
 
Look at his stats: terrible. His defense keeps him in a position to win; give this defense to any of the premier quarterbacks and they would be an unstoppable team. Broncos will lose to the Patriots next Sunday.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:26 PM
 
Footwork is teachable. Throwing mechanics are generally harder to unlearn. I'm not totally sure where Tebow's deficiencies are, specifically, or if its just general lack of (relative) "athleticness." I'm guessing Tebow probably has Mark Sanchez upside, not much more. That's still pretty decent.

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Dec 12, 2011, 04:49 PM
 
Tebow manages to keep both offense and defense inspired inspite of all the ragged offensive performance through the first 3 quarters.

That is a gift--or a skill.

But when you've got a team with a fourth-quarter quarterback, you're in for a lot of heartburn.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:53 PM
 
Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
His will to win is unbelievably strong, and if you combine that with faith you have a combination that's almost unheard of.
That made me think of this:

Pale Rider - 1 Preacher.avi - YouTube
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Dec 12, 2011, 04:57 PM
 
He's a pretty bad QB in general that has had a great run of luck and the help of a great defense and special teams. His throwing mechanic is ugly as sin and his stats back that up. That said, I don't hate the guy, nor really care about him strongly enough to form any solid opinion.

As for losing to the Patriots I'll believe it when I see it. Patriots secondary is AWFUL and the Broncos have a good enough defense to give Brady plenty of headaches. The only upside I can think of is that seeing Tebow and Brady side-by-side will at least give a nice backdrop of just how mediocre and ugly Tebows performance usually is.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 05:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by boy8cookie View Post
Look at his stats: terrible. His defense keeps him in a position to win; give this defense to any of the premier quarterbacks and they would be an unstoppable team. Broncos will lose to the Patriots next Sunday.
Yesterday he went 21/40 for 236 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. I heard an analyst say he should've been 27/40 with 300+, 2 TDs and 1 INT due to the dropped passes by his receivers, one a guaranteed TD. Those aren't poor stats. He does need to keep his completion percentage above 60%, but he doesn't have a lot of weapons in his receiving core.

He's getting better, game by game. All Denver needs to do is secure two good receivers for next year, and Denver actually has a chance at causing some serious damage.

Look through his list of current receivers -- they're terrible.
     
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Dec 12, 2011, 07:07 PM
 
Wait there's no, "he should have been aborted" option?
what an incomplete worthless poll

He's an okay QB who needs to get his mechanics in order if he wants a long standing career in the NFL. Right now he's surrounded by a lot of hype and news churn that will end just as suddenly as it began as soon as they lose. If they make it to the playoffs he's going to be beaten to a pulp by the top tier teams. His winning streak is made up of beating incomplete teams missing key players and dumb luck.

Yesterday for instance Tebow had very little to do with their win. Bears errors leaving them in excellent field position and a good kicker was the keys to Denver's success. Tebow had one TD and more 3 and outs than i can recall.

Personally I'd be happy for him if he could keep his sanctimonious bible thumping confined to himself and his church. Its one thing to do a token praise jesus but when its the only thing that comes out of a players mouth it becomes trite and annoying. It would be hilarious is his whole family was killed by a drunk driver celebrating a Bronco's win.... I wonder where he would think his "god" was then.

Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Only a few sports stories from the past ten years come to mind when I think of what could possibly compare to the Tebow phenomenon: the 2004 Red Sox, LeBron James' move to Miami, and Tiger Woods' reverse Thanksgiving parade.
Eh... you have poor sports history memory. Halladay , Bartman, Beane and the Packers road to the SB last year were more interesting stories. One of your examples didn't even involve anything that happened on the playing field. If that's the bar you are setting you may as well throw in Vick

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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
It would be hilarious is his whole family was killed by a drunk driver celebrating a Bronco's win.... I wonder where he would think his "god" was then.
Seriously? I don't care who you are, that's not funny. At all.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Yesterday he went 21/40 for 236 yards with 1 TD and 1 INT. I heard an analyst say he should've been 27/40 with 300+, 2 TDs and 1 INT due to the dropped passes by his receivers, one a guaranteed TD. Those aren't poor stats. He does need to keep his completion percentage above 60%, but he doesn't have a lot of weapons in his receiving core.

He's getting better, game by game. All Denver needs to do is secure two good receivers for next year, and Denver actually has a chance at causing some serious damage.

Look through his list of current receivers -- they're terrible.
That's barely 50% completion percentage, and up until the fourth quarter, he had a total of 4 completions. He's not a good quarterback.
     
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Originally Posted by imitchellg5 View Post
Seriously? I don't care who you are, that's not funny. At all.
Don't mind him, he tries way to hard to be disagreeable.
     
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Originally Posted by sek929 View Post
Don't mind him, he tries way to hard to be disagreeable.
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Dec 12, 2011, 09:04 PM
 
No one would be talking about this guy if it weren't for the religious angle. Some people are calling his performances "miracles". There's nothing miraculous about his QB skills. Those who put aside the religious aspects usually say he's a poor QB. Its only when you say that his luck is divine intervention where this whole thing becomes interesting at all. Sure he's got "the will to win" (and so does 90% of NFL players), and he's a positive player to have on your team. But he has a long ways to go before we can even start to talk about him being a premier QB in the NFL. I don't doubt he's done good things and will continue to do good things for Denver. But this season may have well been just preseason for him. Lackluster overall performances, bad mechanics, bad decision making, but squeaked out a few wins in the end. Fun if you're a Broncos fan, but nothing much more than that if you're a fan of good football.

Lets come back in a couple years and see where he's at.
     
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Originally Posted by Chongo View Post
That made me think of this:

Pale Rider - 1 Preacher.avi - YouTube
"You let Tebow into Carbon Canyon?!?"

lol
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Originally Posted by Captain Obvious View Post
Eh... you have poor sports history memory. Halladay , Bartman, Beane and the Packers road to the SB last year were more interesting stories. One of your examples didn't even involve anything that happened on the playing field. If that's the bar you are setting you may as well throw in Vick
Hallady? The Packers? Really? Maybe those stories were interesting to dedicated sporting enthusiasts, but I'm referring to large-scale public attention.

The Bartman story is the only one you listed that remotely comes close, and even then it was really only baseball fans that cared.

Tebow, Woods, and the Red Sox. Those are the only stories that are coming to mind that drew in everyone, whether they were invested in the related sport or not.

Actually, now that you mention it, Vick's dog-fighting incident qualifies.
I still can't believe you tried to throw Halladay in there.
     
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I can't read Bartman without thinking


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Ditto. I'm sure the guy was in junior high about the time Bartman made his first appearance. Must've been tough.
     
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Good dude, humble, mediocre passer, good runner, on a team with a great defense and a GREAT, game saving kicker, hasn't played against any of the top tier teams in the league yet and it's still way too early to form an accurate opinion on him. If they beat a team like the Pats, Saints, Packers, Niners...then we can start giving him some real credit. I feel bad for the guy. He didn't ask for this type of attention and the media has just beaten this subject to death to the point that its making people hate him just because it's ALL they hear about.
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Tebow's luck just ran out.
     
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Nah, I think it just moved on to the Cardinals!
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Dec 18, 2011, 11:31 PM
 
Almost no one was saying that the Broncos should beat the Patriots. It was always speculated about by asking, "What if the Broncos beat the Pats?" Everyone saw this week coming a mile away.

Meanwhile, Dallas won (and New York didn't), so I'm a happy man.
     
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Only so much the offense can do, the Bronco's D folded up like a big mile-high lawn chair.
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Dec 19, 2011, 01:01 AM
 
Here's Saturday Night Live's Tebow skit:

Tim Tebow SNL Skit Saturday Night Live - YouTube

Interesting take??? but can't help but wonder why they threw in the Mormonism bit at the end...
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54 View Post
Almost no one was saying that the Broncos should beat the Patriots. It was always speculated about by asking, "What if the Broncos beat the Pats?" Everyone saw this week coming a mile away.
Hahaha, you're right. It was actually an interesting win-win fallback position for closet Tebow fans, though. If they had beaten the Pats, it would (almost literally) have been the second coming of Hay-zeus. If they had come close, it would have been some sort of validation that Tebow is actually legit - he's still learning, yadda yadda. And if they got blown out and he again doesn't play particularly well, like what happened, then everyone just shrugs and says "heyyyy....we expected that."

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They would have come close, if the defense hadn't imploded.
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Dec 19, 2011, 04:26 PM
 
I still doubt the Broncos can stop a Pats/Packers/Saints team that's firing on all cylinders. They're still several pieces away.

My most-hoped-for Super Bowl scenarios, in order of preference:

- Brady vs. Romo
- Brady vs. Brees
- Brady vs. Rodgers

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IMO, you'll see Brady vs. Rodgers this year. And, yes, Brady will get spanked, hard.
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Dec 19, 2011, 04:34 PM
 
Seems like it would be a toss-up. Neither team has a defense to speak of.

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Yrah, but the Pats' D is worser and the Pack's O is betterer.
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Originally Posted by Shaddim View Post
They would have come close, if the defense hadn't imploded.
Defense imploded or the best offense in the league simply started to get its legs under it? If another team starts to double up Welker, Brady throws to Gronk, when they start to double up Gronk Brady has Hernandez. Given time in the pocket Brady and his receivers can do magical things to any defense.

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Yrah, but the Pats' D is worser and the Pack's O is betterer.
Pats D is awful, there is no question about that, but Packers offense better? That's debatable. If the two teams were to meet in the super bowl I don't think Brady would so much get spanked as it would be the Patriots defense that would get spanked. That said, I highly doubt we will see the Pats in the superbowl, their defense is simply to weak.
     
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Originally Posted by Lateralus View Post
Nah, I think it just moved on to the Cardinals!
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You're all going to have to tell me how well Tebow does, because the game vs. Buffalo is blacked out here.
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It looks like the Bills managed to beat the Broncos and Tebow. Where was this Bills team two months ago?
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Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno View Post
John Skelton.
4-1 as a starter this year.
All of his wins were thanks to 4th quarter comebacks.
Two overtime victories.
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Whoops, spoke too soon there.

Looks like Skelton and Tebow are both regressing to the mean.

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Tim Tebow has wet dreams about Cam Newton.
     
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Denver is now in the 4th quarter against Kansas--and boy! they do not look good. The problem is that Kansas doesn't look good either. If only someone would put Denver out of the embarassing position of going to the playoffs with such a dismal offense.

The dilemma: Oakland is also losing which means that Denver would be in the playoffs regardless of whether they win...

The bottom line: all the teams have seen enough tape to know exactly how to stop Denver.
     
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Jan 1, 2012, 09:28 PM
 
When you have an overrated QB, you don't need a formula. Luck runs out eventually. The guy has a few games under his belt where he can't throw for more yardage than his shoe size, with a connect percentage as low as a finance rate.
     
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Wow. Tebow SUCKS. That is all.


Can't believe Denver is in the playoffs. They suck too.
     
 
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