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halimedia
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Originally Posted by Fourth Horseman View Post
Did you see my thread about doing this very same upgrade?
http://forums.macnn.com/72/team-macn...e-time-crunch/
Excellent, thanx! No worries then - glad about that. Will try to elevate the mini to reduce these temps a bit...

/ron

Edit: elevating the mini off the surface it was standing on by about 6 mm caused an almost immediate CPU temperature drop of approx. 4 °C. Nice!
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Feb 9, 2007, 03:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by zombie67 View Post
It seems to have hit the ceiling at about 5300 RAC.
Seemed to have hit another ceiling of about 5600.
     
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Feb 13, 2007, 04:41 AM
 
Climbing again..
     
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Originally Posted by E.T from tellus View Post
Climbing again..
Just passed 6000! w00t!
     
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Feb 15, 2007, 12:09 AM
 
Hopefully I will be able to get a nice screamer eventually!!
     
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Feb 16, 2007, 05:32 PM
 
alexkan,

I see that the chicken folks just released v2.2 for windows & linux. Anything new coming up for Macs?
     
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Originally Posted by zombie67 View Post
I see that the chicken folks just released v2.2 for windows & linux. Anything new coming up for Macs?
Yep, I have changes in the works to relieve memory bandwidth pressure. I believe this will help real-world performance on multiprocessor Macs, but I'll need to verify this on other machines besides my own. (I cannot confirm or deny other Core2-specific goodies in the works. ) I'm still tuning some functions and working out some FLOP-counting kinks, though.
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Feb 17, 2007, 01:36 PM
 
great to hear your still applying your skills on our behalf, cheers alex

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Feb 17, 2007, 02:13 PM
 
E.T. is first with 6,390.36 leading by little more than 450 RAC!
     
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Feb 17, 2007, 11:18 PM
 
I am now running KWSN 2.2 on both of my PC's, looking forward to seeing what other stuff Alex can come up with for my old eMac.
     
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Feb 20, 2007, 06:27 PM
 
Hi alex,

great effort with the Chicken 2.2. However, as a side-effect the Windows client is now almost as quick as the 7.1-G5 client. My P4 3.0 GHz takes exactly the same amount of time as my G5 Dual 2.7 GHz machine. Hope you will "correct" this soon
     
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Feb 21, 2007, 02:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by E.T from tellus View Post
Climbing again..
E.T from tellus: I've been watching the climb with interest. Do you have any idea of the Gigaflop rating of your computer?

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Originally Posted by beadman View Post
E.T from tellus: I've been watching the climb with interest. Do you have any idea of the Gigaflop rating of your computer?

beadman
Oops! Just found out the answer, I think to my own question. Looks like it's running 41.8 MFlops vs the "standard" MacPro's 24.5 MFlops.
http://www.hardmac.com/articles/72/page3/

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Feb 22, 2007, 02:31 AM
 
halimedia: Congratulations on making the "Top 100" in the World S@H list.
     
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Originally Posted by Gecko_r7 View Post
halimedia: Congratulations on making the "Top 100" in the World S@H list.
Thanx, Gecko_r7! Who would have thought... In S@H Classic, I was struggling to stay among the top 10'000.

BTW, those minis have really helped with this regard. Of particular interest may be my Core 2 Duo-modded mini, which is about to break the 2'000 RAC barrier.
     
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Feb 27, 2007, 04:36 AM
 
If you are the owner of a Mac Pro and would like to collect numbers for a prerelease app, please send me a PM with contact info. Dual-core C2D Intel owners, I already have a machine to test on. Have patience, it shouldn't be more than a couple of days before this app will be ready for you guys, too.

PPC and CD owners, you may have to wait a bit longer, as I have some backporting and testing to do.

E.T, I'm especially interested in seeing how this app performs on your modded Mac Pro...
     
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Feb 27, 2007, 12:42 PM
 
It's because of you, Alexkan, that I couldn't find my stats today. Why? Because my row changed colour from white to orange. Why? Because your optimized application boosted my daily output tremendously. Thanks for that.

May I suggest that there be a prominent link on the front page of Team MacNN pointing to your applications and instructions for installation. There are several new members here who are not using your apps. I wonder if they just don't know about them or can't locate them.
     
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Do you all have access to the S@H pages? I can't get any of them to load since hours.
     
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Feb 28, 2007, 12:23 PM
 
No problem here.
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Loading fine here too.
     
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Originally Posted by Bad to the bone View Post
Do you all have access to the S@H pages? I can't get any of them to load since hours.
Yeah, I was trying to read the forums around 6:30 AM PST, and it was molasses. By the time I got to work everything was fine again.
     
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Feb 28, 2007, 11:16 PM
 
Looks like they are still working on updating the hardware and something came undone again.
     
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Mar 1, 2007, 02:36 PM
 
I see E.T is hovering around the 6800 mark and is #1, but I also noticed today that Bad to the Bone has busted the 5000 barrier today with his quad MacPro! Congratulations to both of you!!

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Mar 3, 2007, 03:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by E.T from tellus View Post
Climbing again..
7016 @ 11:20 PM PST March 2nd.

     
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Mar 4, 2007, 11:44 AM
 
My friend essentially built a x86 machine with two of the quad
core chips and is now running the chicken of angmar's optimized
client on it, these are the 1.6 ghz chips.

See:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_...hostid=3131492

We'll see how he does - he's got 4 gigs of ram in the thing and
his cpu stats reads:

"Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5310 @ 1.60GHz [EM64T Family 6 Model 15 Stepping 7] [fpu tsc pae sse sse2 mmx]"

We'll see if he gets in ET from Tellus neighborhood with it.

His G5 2.0 dualcore is doing fantastically, he's at RAC 1324.39,
better than my dual CPU G5 2.5 which only seems to hit 1300
or above when I go on vacation and run no other apps on it.

I gotta gets me some of that x86 beastliness I think.
     
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Mar 4, 2007, 05:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by Todd Madson View Post
My friend essentially built a x86 machine with two of the quad
core chips and is now running the chicken of angmar's optimized
client on it, these are the 1.6 ghz chips.

See:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_...hostid=3131492
Hmmm... Currently, his WU-times are far worse than those on a 1.42 GHz G4 mini. What gives?
     
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Mar 4, 2007, 06:53 PM
 
Weird. His RAC on his G5 went up considerably after he installed
6.5 gigs of ram in the box (up from 2.5 gigs) a couple of days ago.

Not sure what's going on regarding his WU times on the
big x86 monster - sometimes a work unit completes in 20 minutes,
then some of the others (probably angle units) take longer.

He is running the 64-bit version of Windows XP if that helps
anyone figure it out.

So the x86 Xeon x8 has 2 gigs of ram, the G5 2.0 dual core
has 6.5 gigs of ram.

Interesting.
     
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Mar 4, 2007, 10:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by halimedia View Post
Hmmm... Currently, his WU-times are far worse than those on a 1.42 GHz G4 mini. What gives?
I would be willing to bet he doesn't have his DIMMs in sets of 4. If he has only 2 DIMMs (regardless of size), performance will be *way* down.
     
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Mar 5, 2007, 02:12 PM
 
Passing that information to my friend...

His G5 2.0 DC now is hitting about 1350 rac, better than my G5 2.5 DP.

Impressive. Amazing what adding ram did on an already robust machine.
     
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Mar 6, 2007, 08:21 AM
 
Update: he's ordered more ram. Thanks for the information he says.
     
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Mar 16, 2007, 10:35 AM
 
E.T.: Your dual quad's RAC has dropped from 7200 to 6200. What's up? You don't want to let who? take #1 away, do you?
     
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Originally Posted by zombie67 View Post
E.T.: Your dual quad's RAC has dropped from 7200 to 6200. What's up? You don't want to let who? take #1 away, do you?
Back in business again, i need to do some "real" work a while
     
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Mar 20, 2007, 11:05 AM
 
My friends machine is now 82 in the world:
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Weirdly, right above it is a G5 of some ilk running a different client than Alex's. It says
"Power Macintosh - Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac11,2] [AltiVec]"
where mine just says "Power Macintosh - PowerMac7,3". I wonder if that's a diffferent
client?

After my G5 blew up my RAC dropped like a rock, now that it's back I think I'm going
to have to run the FFT app to generate a new wisdom file because it doesn't seem to
be doing as well as before and the RAC is in the 800s where it was 1200-1300 before.

New CPUs/Motherboard/Power Supply/Cooling unit. Stay tuned.
     
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Originally Posted by Todd Madson View Post
Weirdly, right above it is a G5 of some ilk running a different client than Alex's. It says
"Power Macintosh - Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac11,2] [AltiVec]"
where mine just says "Power Macintosh - PowerMac7,3". I wonder if that's a diffferent
client?
I think you are confusing client and application. alexkan's application has nothing to do with what is displayed on that list. The information on that list comes from the BOINC client. The newer versions of the client show more information about the CPU. If you were to upgrade, they would look similar.

After my G5 blew up my RAC dropped like a rock, now that it's back I think I'm going
to have to run the FFT app to generate a new wisdom file because it doesn't seem to
be doing as well as before and the RAC is in the 800s where it was 1200-1300 before.
I thought Wisdom files were no longer a factor with the later applications from alexkan.
     
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Originally Posted by Todd Madson View Post
Weirdly, right above it is a G5 of some ilk running a different client than Alex's. It says
"Power Macintosh - Power Macintosh [Power Macintosh Model PowerMac11,2] [AltiVec]"
where mine just says "Power Macintosh - PowerMac7,3". I wonder if that's a diffferent
client?
Power Mac7.3 is original G5, with unicore CPU, 400mhz DDR memory and PCI-X bus.
Power Mac11,2 is last revision of G5, with dualcore CPU, 533Mhz DDR memory and PCI-e bus. -> those are much faster in crunching than originals.
Revision numbering comes from motherboard which is totally different generation.
     
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Originally Posted by E.T from tellus View Post
Back in business again, i need to do some "real" work a while
Very cool. And a new high too, if I'm not mistaken. 7300+! Maybe it was that high before, but if so, I missed it.
     
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Originally Posted by Todd Madson View Post
After my G5 blew up my RAC dropped like a rock, now that it's back I think I'm going
to have to run the FFT app to generate a new wisdom file because it doesn't seem to
be doing as well as before and the RAC is in the 800s where it was 1200-1300 before.
I was running SIMAP for the last few weeks on my Core Duo iMac. Since I came back to Seti, it seems somewhat slower. In particular, when I am paired with a Core 2 Duo which is a little bit higher clock speed, it is completing work units 2x's faster. Is this proper? I have updated Boinc a few times lately, but have done nothing to A Khan's worker.
     
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Originally Posted by Billy View Post
I was running SIMAP for the last few weeks on my Core Duo iMac. Since I came back to Seti, it seems somewhat slower. In particular, when I am paired with a Core 2 Duo which is a little bit higher clock speed, it is completing work units 2x's faster. Is this proper? I have updated Boinc a few times lately, but have done nothing to A Khan's worker.
Your times seem about right for a Core Duo at that clockspeed. It's reasonable for a similarly-clocked Core 2 Duo to vastly outperform your Core Duo, because the architectural improvements in Core2-based chips doubled throughput of the instructions that the SETI worker uses most.
     
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FYI, updated linux apps for S@H have been released.

New Optimized Apps Links -- READ ONLY THREAD
     
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Originally Posted by zombie67 View Post
Very cool. And a new high too, if I'm not mistaken. 7300+! Maybe it was that high before, but if so, I missed it.
7905!

Edit: Fixed the mis-quote. How did I manage to mess that up anyway?
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I am going to guess that you were really quoting ET instead of Billy as I see ET is cranking at 7847 when I looked at the top computer page.
     
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My friends' 8-core machine has been running "Chicken Good" 2.0 up until today, he still was
in the top 60 machines in the world. This ought to be really interesting, he was not aware
of the 2.2b version. Stay tuned.

Well, the G5 is finally close to breaking 1K rac again. Hope it keeps climbing.
     
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E.T's V8 has just passed the 8000 RAC mark!! Congratulations - very impressive performance!

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8K rac? Holy moly! Screaming performance!
     
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et is now 8446. Leaving the rest for dust!
     
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So when do *we* the new application?
     
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oooh the anticipation of alexkan v.8.0

im sure beta testing must nearly be over ?

ET's macpro has churned though hundreds of units now with it.. and very impressive too

any release planned Alex ?

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Any news on a PPC client upgrade?

I've definetely got proof my current G5 2.5 dual performance is not
quite as good as the last one - motherboard, ps, processors and
cooling system was replaced during the repair last month.

I re-ran the fft3 and it still breaks just over 1100 rac and doesn't dip
into the 1200s like the old one used to although it could be the work
units doing this. I'll keep trying though.
     
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I’m planning to switch a new iMac over to the i386-v7.2-core2 app, and it’s running BOINC v5.8.15, with which I have little experience. From what I hear the recent versions’ changed process-owner or whatever can cause problems with a ‘dropped-in’ executable and app_info.xml. Any tips to offer regarding just what has to be changed in the permissions, and how? Will this require root access?
     
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I am running v5.8.15 on all 3 of my machines and have not had any problems with optimized workers.
     
 
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