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xpsonic · Sep 15, 2009, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Someone planned it. Maybe not every party was in on it but it was staged for the benefit of everyone involved:

- The show gets publicity and increased viewership over its next ten airings this week.
- Kanye gets a thousand percent increased attention boost right before his Leno appearance and on the heels of his next tour leg.
- Taylor Swift gets to reinforce her good girl persona. People who never heard about her yesterday suddenly adore her and their introduction to her plays right into her crafted image.
- Beyonce gets to play the hero.

I just can't believe that over the course of those 3 hours it occurred to no one to let her come back on stage and let her give her speech until the very end of the show. Furthermore, in spite all the negative press Kanye is getting he got to play the dead mom card tonight on TV to illicit some sympathy and retain media attention for one more news cycle.

This actually does make some sense, but also its a bit on that conspiracy theory side. Either way both parties win. Both get lots of publicity and everyone in the industry involved wins.

OldManMac · Sep 15, 2009, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Someone planned it. Maybe not every party was in on it but it was staged for the benefit of everyone involved:

- The show gets publicity and increased viewership over its next ten airings this week.
- Kanye gets a thousand percent increased attention boost right before his Leno appearance and on the heels of his next tour leg.
- Taylor Swift gets to reinforce her good girl persona. People who never heard about her yesterday suddenly adore her and their introduction to her plays right into her crafted image.
- Beyonce gets to play the hero.

I just can't believe that over the course of those 3 hours it occurred to no one to let her come back on stage and let her give her speech until the very end of the show. Furthermore, in spite all the negative press Kanye is getting he got to play the dead mom card tonight on TV to illicit some sympathy and retain media attention for one more news cycle.

I'm sure people get up on stage to purposely make fools of themselves, and damage their reputation, all the time.

He's apologized on Leno's new show, which seemed to be heartfelt, but here's the best response yet.

YouTube - You Don't Belong on MTV ( cover ) Kanye West Taylor Swift VMA

ApertureValue · Sep 15, 2009, 09:10 AM

I've pretty much always thought he was a waste of flesh. Just another example in a long line...

Laminar · Sep 15, 2009, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by hyteckit

Kanye West disrespecting Pres. Obama

YouTube - MTV VMAs Remix: Kanye West Interrupts Obama's Speech (HD)

Awesome.

Captain Obvious · Sep 15, 2009, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by xpsonic

This actually does make some sense, but also its a bit on that conspiracy theory side.

I was just pointing out how it was a win-win situation in the end. For any of it to have been planned would have required only two people to have agreed to it, West and someone involved in the production of the show. Everything else could have just been improvised as the night progressed. I am sure there was no way to anticipate how it would have gone over. It may have snowballed from what they expected. Who knows.
But Taylor Swift didn't get out of her seat when that impromptu moment with Beyonce. She was already waiting at the side of the stage.

Plus, can anyone remember one of the VMAs in the past 5 years where they didn't have some stunt pulled?

Originally Posted by OldManMac

I'm sure people get up on stage to purposely make fools of themselves, and damage their reputation, all the time.

You seem to take no issue with it. It happens every time you open your mouth.
Kanye West at least gets publicity when he does it.

Shaddim · Sep 15, 2009, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Kanye West at least gets publicity when he does it.

There's truth here. I see a lot of thugs are backing Kanye's actions, and those seem to be his fan base.

starman · Sep 15, 2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

She was already waiting at the side of the stage.

She was interviewed and was told to wait on the side, but wasn't told for what.

Spheric Harlot · Sep 15, 2009, 03:58 PM

So Beyonce and kanye were in on the stunt, kanye gets great publicity for his upcoming tour (which I assume a lot of people had not heard of that might take an interest), and the entire rest of the world that has never even heard of Taylor Swift now at least has an idea she exists.

Show business as usual.

stevesnj · Sep 15, 2009, 04:52 PM

I dunno Swift really didn't deserve that award... Kanye should of slapped that bitch too!

Chuckit · Sep 15, 2009, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by stevesnj

I dunno Swift really didn't deserve that award... Kanye should of slapped that [girl] too!

Swift's music and videos are mediocre, while Beyonce's recent music and videos are terrible. So I think Swift deserved it more.

Spheric Harlot · Sep 15, 2009, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by stevesnj

I dunno Swift really didn't deserve that award... Kanye should of slapped that bitch too!

You're still missing the point!?

Nobody "deserves" any of this. Nobody has cared in ten years.

"I dunno. I think Kraft foods deserved that bit ofadvertising more than Procter & Gamble. Their last tv dinner was terrible."

that's just absurd.

moep · Sep 15, 2009, 05:59 PM

Obama Calls Kanye a 'Jackass' -- The Audio | TMZ.com

Obama doesn’t care about b… oh wait.

Jawbone54 · Sep 15, 2009, 06:23 PM

I just watched Kanye's apology of sorts on Leno's show: watch on Hulu.

He's wrong for what he did, he made a complete fool of himself, and he is suffering a backlash from it. If it was staged, I don't think it's going to have quite the positive impact that they thought it would.

BUT I did feel a little sorry for him in his apology. He seems to feel really sheepish about it all (again, if it wasn't staged).

xpsonic · Sep 15, 2009, 07:27 PM

Ah well, its over, I see a Tswizzle Kanye colabo.

sdilley14 · Sep 15, 2009, 09:21 PM

I still like him. The whole thing was obviously wrong in every way, but I don't think it makes him a terrible person. We all have embarrassing moments when we act out of line and we all have times we wish we wouldn't be held accountable for. We all make mistakes and do stupid **** from time to time...he just does it on a much larger scale under a public microscope. How many times have any of us judged someone, called someone out, criticized someone (most likely while being drunk) and wish we wouldn't have done it and felt genuinely sorry for it after the fact? None of us have to deal with it and apologize to 50 million people though.

Again, I'm not trying to defend his actions because they were wrong, I just feel like there may be a bit of an overreaction going on. Maybe because it happened to a dainty, pretty little country girl. Maybe if he had done it to Fall Out Boy or Lil Wayne or someone like that it wouldn't have been such a big deal? Who knows.

The fact that Beyonce's video probably was better than Taylors (I don't know, haven't seen either of them) and the people at MTV got it completely wrong seems to be lost on everyone.

imitchellg5 · Sep 15, 2009, 09:27 PM

I heard that he stood up at Patrick Swayze's funeral and said that Michael Jackson's death was better.

Captain Obvious · Sep 15, 2009, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by sdilley14

We all make mistakes and do stupid **** from time to time...he just does it on a much larger scale under a public microscope.

It was done on live television not in some dark corner at a private party.
There was no need for anyone to put him under a microscope when he's goes out of the way to be in the spotlight.

How many times have any of us judged someone, called someone out, criticized someone (most likely while being drunk) and wish we wouldn't have done it and felt genuinely sorry for it after the fact?

Not a single solitary time. If i do that its warranted.

The fact that Beyonce's video probably was better than Taylors and the people at MTV got it completely wrong seems to be lost on everyone.

Its voted on by teenagers

Originally Posted by moep

Obama doesn’t care about b… oh wait.

I don't like Obama, Kanye or Terry Moran for that matter but everyone involved in leaking that should be fired.

Shaddim · Sep 16, 2009, 01:16 AM

Originally Posted by moep

Obama Calls Kanye a 'Jackass' -- The Audio | TMZ.com

Obama doesn’t care about b… oh wait.

Okay, that's the coolest thing I've heard from Obama.

Rumor · Sep 16, 2009, 02:00 AM

Rumor · Sep 18, 2009, 03:00 AM

On along the same lines:

Laminar · Sep 18, 2009, 09:21 AM

Control Alt Delete tries to make up for bad writing with good art.

mattyb · Sep 18, 2009, 12:07 PM

Its probably due to not following US culture for the past 20 odd years, but I didn't find many Control Alt Delete comics funny.

Quite p1ss poor in fact.

The Final Dakar · Sep 18, 2009, 12:11 PM

In general they aren't funny.

olePigeon · Sep 18, 2009, 12:32 PM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

There's truth here. I see a lot of thugs are backing Kanye's actions, and those seem to be his fan base.

Naturally Kanye would support his own actions. He's his biggest fan.

Demonhood · Sep 18, 2009, 02:34 PM

oops.

the internet done broke kanyelicio.us

Chuckit · Sep 18, 2009, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by mattyb

Its probably due to not following US culture for the past 20 odd years, but I didn't find many Control Alt Delete comics funny.

Quite p1ss poor in fact.

It's not you, it's him.

The Final Dakar · Sep 18, 2009, 02:58 PM

hyteckit · Sep 18, 2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Haha... Marmaduke is awesome.

The Final Dakar · Sep 18, 2009, 03:11 PM

Marmaduke is ****ing terrible.

mattyb · Sep 18, 2009, 03:14 PM

I'm a Shoe fan myself.

olePigeon · Sep 18, 2009, 03:18 PM

xkcd

Chuckit · Sep 18, 2009, 03:26 PM

Marmaduke Explained, 09/18/09 | Houston Time Suck | 29-95.com

Laminar · Sep 18, 2009, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Marmaduke is ****ing terrible.

Also, **** Family Circus.

The Final Dakar · Sep 18, 2009, 04:09 PM

Indeed.

SpaceMonkey · Sep 18, 2009, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by Laminar

Also, **** Family Circus.

Yeah, it's too edgy for me.

Laminar · Sep 18, 2009, 04:14 PM

So is NN officially fun again or is this just a one day thing?

The Final Dakar · Sep 18, 2009, 05:15 PM

Obviously a one day thing. It's like reverse PMS.

design219 · Sep 18, 2009, 10:46 PM

Kayne has an opinion on the MacNN Lounge.

KeyLimePi · Sep 25, 2009, 05:48 AM

Kanye's a pretty big @sshole, but this DJ is a close second. Come to think of it he may actually be a bigger @sshole since (1) he was sober and (2) he continues to try to pretend he's just doing what any good DJ would do.

I have to say I didn't know much about Swift before this whole thing, but I'm impressed that she handles herself for being so young. I just hope she doesn't go all Brittney in a few years.

OldManMac · Sep 25, 2009, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by KeyLimePi

Kanye's a pretty big @sshole, but this DJ is a close second. Come to think of it he may actually be a bigger @sshole since (1) he was sober and (2) he continues to try to pretend he's just doing what any good DJ would do.

I have to say I didn't know much about Swift before this whole thing, but I'm impressed that she handles herself for being so young. I just hope she doesn't go all Brittney in a few years.

Another reason why I just replaced the radio in my car with one that features an auxiliary jack, so I can take my 120GB classic, and never have to listen to these morons again.

hyteckit · Oct 1, 2009, 11:19 PM

Kanye West's tour has been canceled.

Kanye West and Lady Gaga tour canceled - Yahoo! News