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An actor who doesn't end up on a doomed production at some point isn't trying hard enough.
     
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Originally Posted by starman View Post
There's no cast yet.
Well, that's a load of crap.
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Well, that's a load of crap.
Oh right. AP and...umm....who's left after Tony Todd distanced himself from the project?

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Wait....Axanar is OUT OF MONEY?

Axanar is Broke, Peters Claims [AxaMonitor]

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Weren't you the one crying about them having too much cash?
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Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
Weren't you the one crying about them having too much cash?
Ok, seriously, dude...come back to reality.

$2 million, no footage, not a single frame filmed, and they're already out of money.

YOUR MONEY.

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Originally Posted by starman View Post
Ok, seriously, dude...come back to reality.

$2 million, no footage, not a single frame filmed, and they're already out of money.

YOUR MONEY.
They have the gear (and location) which is where the lion's share of the money went, they don't need a lot more than that. Right now they just need to film the acted scenes, the shots that are all-cgi are either complete or being made as we speak. "not a single frame filmed" is just rubbish, but I already know that your butthurt will make you say anything. As for the $, I spent more on comic books last month than I gave to Axanar. It's pretty comical, you're much more worried about that aspect than I am.
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You were the one making it a Big Deal™ that you gave so much money to Axanar.

Now they have none.

And nothing to show for it.

And I can't tell you how hilarious this whole situation is. What's probably funnier is how you're hiding the fact that you don't care. I'm sure you do. It's a bad investment.

And if a single frame was filmed, how was that miraculously done if...

Right now they just need to film the acted scenes
So...NOT A SINGLE FRAME WAS *FILMED*.

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You were the one making it a Big Deal™ that you gave so much money to Axanar.

Now they have none.

And nothing to show for it.

And I can't tell you how hilarious this whole situation is. What's probably funnier is how you're hiding the fact that you don't care. I'm sure you do. It's a bad investment.

And if a single frame was filmed, how was that miraculously done if...

So...NOT A SINGLE FRAME WAS *FILMED*.
No, YOU'VE made a "Big Deal™" over it, like the butthurt Paramount fan you are, I mention being a substantial backer once and you've since lost what's left of your mind. Come to think of it, I've actually spent more on a weekend bar tab. At any rate, by the way you're behaving here, you care far more than I do about this whole thing, which is why you come back screaming and wetting your pants over any small scrap of news regarding Axanar you can find. Hell, I wouldn't even need to read news about it, I know you'll go out and fetch it for me.

Oh, and you do realize they're rendering entire scenes in CGI, they have the systems for that (as evidenced by their very recent teaser trailer) which was what some of the $$ to start the studio went towards, without "filming" anything, right?
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Can you stop using the word "butthurt" every two sentences?
     
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Can I? Yep. Will I? Probably not.
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Did you borrow AP's?


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Did you borrow AP's?

Actually, it was yours. I placed back in your medicine cabinet after taking that pic. Also, I saw on the label where, I ass-ume your proctologist, wrote, "Apply to hurt area when someone mentions Axanar".
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Actually, it was yours. I placed back in your medicine cabinet after taking that pic. Also, I saw on the label where, I ass-ume your proctologist, wrote, "Apply to hurt area when someone mentions Axanar".
Really? That's the best you can do? Try again.

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Really? That's the best you can do? Try again.
If I hit you any harder you'd break into a million pieces, little guy. You're already chewing your lips off.
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This thread is now officially about gay stuff.
     
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Since we're talking ST:SJW, I though it was awesome "Encounter at Farpoint" had background, extra dudes wearing the skirt uniform.

Then the ****ers never did it again.
     
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And that episode where Dr. Crusher falls in love with the alien who changes gender. That episode pissed me off. Fantastic opportunity just tossed out the window.

To be clear, I'm not saying they should have had Crusher dyke out just because, but they should have done, I dunno... something with the idea of what makes us who we are being independent from the meatbag.
     
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This thread is now officially about gay stuff.
Takei isn't happy about it, though.
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Takei isn't happy about it, though.
Neither am I, frankly.
     
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Neither am I, frankly.
Makes a lot of sense, though. He knows that Roddenberry wrote his character as a straight man, and now it's been retconned to appease a very vocal minority. Such shenanigans piss off a lot of people. Gay/lesbian characters are great, start new ones, but taking established identities and "gaying them up" is pandering of the worst sort.
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I am in agreement.
     
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The quote I read seemed positive on the subject.
     
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Except Takei wasn't overjoyed. He had never asked for Sulu to be gay. In fact, he'd much prefer that he stay straight. "I’m delighted that there’s a gay character," he tells The Hollywood Reporter. "Unfortunately, it’s a twisting of Gene’s creation, to which he put in so much thought. I think it’s really unfortunate."
George Takei Reacts to Gay Sulu News: "I Think It's Really Unfortunate" - Hollywood Reporter
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The problem with this whole situation is that Pegg even said that Sulu was straight in TOS, and in this timeline, "Whatever magic ingredient determines our sexuality was different for Sulu in our timeline." - which is almost a slap in the face to gay people since it's not something you can turn on and off. If these characters are supposed to be the genetic equivalent of their TOS counterparts, then there should be no changes to their character. That included Spock having a girlfriend (what's up with that?).

But people are praising the decision. I don't because I f*ing hate the changes to the timeline. Spock and Uhura in a relationship, specifically Spock with a girlfriend, Vulcan destroyed, Pike as a mentor to Kirk when he should be roughly the same age (pre-timeline change btw), and a few other things (Budgineering).

And now Sulu is gay only so they can tick a box.

Proof, Pegg: "We could have introduced a new gay character, but he or she would have been primarily defined by their sexuality, seen as the ‘gay character’, rather than simply for who they are, and isn’t that tokenism?"

So that was their point all along - TO TICK A BOX.

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Spock and Uhura in a relationship, specifically Spock with a girlfriend
Zachary is gay, so there's always the option to solve this by making Spock gay.
     
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Let's make everybody gay and call it Shields Up the Butt.
     
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The bigger problem was that they can't make a new character, gay or not. Too risky, not enough time in a movie to get Joe Viewer interested in them or flesh them out as full interesting people. Let's face it, new characters are the new red shirts, and you know they are going to die.
     
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They introduced a new character in the last movie. Did she die? I honestly don't remember.
     
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They introduced a new character in the last movie. Did she die? I honestly don't remember.
No, they didn't.

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The bigger problem was that they can't make a new character, gay or not. Too risky, not enough time in a movie to get Joe Viewer interested in them or flesh them out as full interesting people. Let's face it, new characters are the new red shirts, and you know they are going to die.
I'll take that a step further - this may be the last movie in the JJ franchise, so who cares? If they mention this on screen for three seconds, so what? How does it help Star Trek? How does it help the story? Answer to both: it really doesn't.

I just don't like rewriting characters, even in alternate timelines.

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The chick with the gratuitous changing clothes scene? was she canon?

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No, they didn't.
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The chick with the gratuitous changing clothes scene? was she canon?
We're talking about introducing new characters, right?
     
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I'll just leave this here.


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the gratuitous changing clothes scene?
Considering this, is it really much of a surprise their new-found sensitivity rings a bit hollow?
     
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ok, mea culpa, didn't realize she was the same character. Or forgot!
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I presumed we were talking about a new character in the sense of not one of the core characters.

And if we're going to talk about shitting on a character... wow.

Might the reason I didn't realize this was the same character be because in one movie she's the person who forces Kirk to confront his personal behavior for the first time like an adult, while in the other when she's not T&A, she's a walking plot device?
     
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There's Scotty's lizard buddy, he's new.
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You know, Lost in Space doesn't have this problem.
     
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You know, Lost in Space doesn't have this problem.
Unless you have an issue with carrots as a race.

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Carrots are gay.

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Press screening last night. Non-spoiler reviews are overwhelmingly positive.

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How were the initial reviews on that last piece of garbage?
     
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How were the initial reviews on that last piece of garbage?
"overwhelmingly positive" In a vacuum they're fine, as a ST property they're an embarrassment.

The new Ghostbusters reboot is very similar; on its own it's okay, I guess, but compared to previous endeavors it's shockingly poor.
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"overwhelmingly positive" In a vacuum they're fine, as a ST property they're an embarrassment.

The new Ghostbusters reboot is very similar; on its own it's okay, I guess, but compared to previous endeavors it's shockingly poor.
I don't understand why you're being such a cynical jerk about Star Trek. Seriously, go taint another thread. You haven't even seen the movie yet.

As for Ghostbusters, it's gotten a 78% rating on RT. That's damn impressive. "shockingly poor"? What planet are you from?
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