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Kerrigan · Jun 23, 2006, 03:26 PM

How do we know he didn't click File > New Finder Window and then select his HD?

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Busemann

You're a beta tester for Apple? No wonder why their releases are so bug-ridden

Very funny. I must admit, you are wittier than most other 3rd graders I know.

republika · Jun 23, 2006, 03:28 PM

Completely fake.

Landos Mustache · Jun 23, 2006, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Very funny. I must admit, you are wittier than most other 3rd graders I know.

I was wondering what grade you are in. Must have been held back a few times being 20 and in grade 3.

Stratus Fear · Jun 23, 2006, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by UNTeMac

Here's how I know. Everyone double click a disk or folder on your desktop. Notice how the thing you just dbl clicked is highlighted even with the window open? Now look at the Leopard fake...no highlight.

Everybody double click a disk or folder on your desktop, THEN CLICK ON THE DESKTOP ITSELF. Notice how the highlight goes away? You can't tell from that screenshot the time that the finder window was opened. It's more than easy enough to kill the highlight and then bring it back into focus. Better yet, open a new finder window by cmd-tabbing to finder and hitting cmd-n, or clicking the finder icon in the dock.

Seriously guys, you don't know it's fake until we see the real thing. There's not anything obvious enough to make this a fake. I'm not saying it's real, but people on the internet jump to conclusions way too quickly and then they end up being wrong. Remember how Windows on Mac was initially "fake?" Yeah, that one turned out to be a real fake, eh?

Eug Wanker · 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Supposed Leopard:

<<< Image removed at the request of Apple legal >>>

Tiger:

Originally Posted by UNTeMac

Here's how I know. Everyone double click a disk or folder on your desktop. Notice how the thing you just dbl clicked is highlighted even with the window open? Now look at the Leopard fake...no highlight.

Landos Mustache · Jun 23, 2006, 03:43 PM

Burn

kick52 · Jun 23, 2006, 04:00 PM

what the hell is wrong with that dock?

also, i dont think apple would incorperate a windows field in the ATM.

Landos Mustache · Jun 23, 2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by kick52

what the hell is wrong with that dock?

That is what I said but I got "measure it" comments.

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

I was wondering what grade you are in. Must have been held back a few times being 20 and in grade 3.

Mine was better.

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 04:20 PM

No Apple takedown yet. Doesn't bode well for their authenticity.

kick52 · Jun 23, 2006, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

That is what I said but I got "measure it" comments.

the icons are way to close to the top. looks very ugly.

slugslugslug · Jun 23, 2006, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by UNTeMac

Here's how I know. Everyone double click a disk or folder on your desktop. Notice how the thing you just dbl clicked is highlighted even with the window open?

Uh, unless you click anywhere on the desktop before clicking on the window again.

Landos Mustache · Jun 23, 2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

No Apple takedown yet. Doesn't bode well for their authenticity.

I'm sure they will fake one tomorrow.

Eug Wanker · Jun 23, 2006, 04:28 PM

<<< Image removed at the request of Apple legal >>>

<<< Image removed at the request of Apple legal >>>

kick52 · Jun 23, 2006, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

<<< Image removed at the request of Apple legal >>>

<<< Image removed at the request of Apple legal >>>

what was the image you were gonna post?

Landos Mustache · Jun 23, 2006, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by kick52

what was the image you were gonna post?

He was kidding champ.

mdc · Jun 23, 2006, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by UNTeMac

Here's how I know. Everyone double click a disk or folder on your desktop. Notice how the thing you just dbl clicked is highlighted even with the window open? Now look at the Leopard fake...no highlight.

I see what you're saying, but I don't like seeing the harddrive selected so even after I double click the hard drive, I single click somewhere on the desktop to unselect the icon.
Maybe this person is like me?

UNTeMac · Jun 23, 2006, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Burn

Oh well... it's still fake

El Gato · Jun 23, 2006, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Why do people want this? The desire for a merged Mail/iCal/AddressBook never dies. Is there something wrong with the current set up?

Right now, I can open Mail, iCal, and AddressBook, adjust each window to the desired size and position, and then shift between them with Expose or Comd-Tab. Merging the three apps into one will undoubtedly destroy the distinct window preferences and make switching harder.

There's no benefit to merging those apps, and I hope Apple isn't wasting their time with it.

I never said that they should integrate Mail as well, I actually think it should be kept separate. I would only like to see Address Book and iCal merged simply for the fact that Address Book already has synchronization with Exchange - so I'm assuming (hoping) that a merged "Date Book" would have iCal sync as well.

But also like Eug said, having just one app would simplify things considering that contacts and calendars are complementary. If done right, it makes sense to have them as one app.

lpkmckenna · Jun 23, 2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by El Gato

But also like Eug said, having just one app would simplify things...

It wouldn't simplify switching or window personalization.

TETENAL · Jun 23, 2006, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Why do people want this? Because it's simpler. I vote for at least iCal and AddressBook merging, and perhaps mail going in there eventually too.

Why should people who use Thunderbird or Webmail or whatever, why should those people have to open Apple Mail to lookup addresses? What would be "simpler" here? And iCal is something completely than mail and addresses, so I don't see the point in merging in that app at all. Makes as much sense as merging Chess into Mail.

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 07:08 PM

You know, Mac OS X is one of the few platforms that has it's calendar and address book programs separate. I don't get why a few people in this forum are getting their panties in a wad over the idea of iCal and Address Book being combined. It's not like it's new territory.

Eug Wanker · Jun 23, 2006, 07:08 PM

These are personal information manager type of applications, and it's not as if they are a big drain the system, even when both are running. It's not as if having one separate app is speedy, while having one app combining both AddressBook and iCal is going to make the system slow to a crawl. It makes a lot of sense to have iCal and AddressBook in the same app, with each being icons or tabs within the application.

It's no surprise that these apps from other companies are often combined. People like them that way, myself included.

Eug Wanker · Jun 23, 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

I'm gonna go with: "It's real".

What makes me think that? The directory level button next to the "action sprocket" shows a "/". That's either real or some good forward thinking on the part of the shopper.

saddino · Jun 23, 2006, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by slugslugslug

Plus that effect is fugly and makes me think of ******.

Yep:

Kerrigan · Jun 23, 2006, 09:14 PM

Now that's more like it!

demograph68 · Jun 23, 2006, 09:24 PM

Classy.™

MindFad · Jun 23, 2006, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by saddino

Yep:

I can't believe this took three pages. Bravo!

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Another screenshot? Either Apple legal is a bit slow today, or maybe these are fake.

Eug Wanker · Jun 23, 2006, 09:56 PM

Kerrigan · Jun 23, 2006, 09:59 PM

Where did that screenshot come from Eug?

Not the tiger hole but the other one.

rickey939 · Jun 23, 2006, 10:14 PM

This build is now available from MOSR. Just enter "guest/guest" for the username and password and you can download it.

So far everything is really solid. Safari crashes when trying to load the new built-in Map Viewer, but the Boot Camp integration is absolutely great.

Chuckit · Jun 23, 2006, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by Stratus Fear

Remember how Windows on Mac was initially "fake?" Yeah, that one turned out to be a real fake, eh?

Actually, most of those did turn out to be real fakes, yes.

lpkmckenna · 10:40 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Another screenshot? Either Apple legal is a bit slow today, or maybe these are fake.

Fake. Look at the "new" Mail/AddressBook/iCal app: the date is so small you'd never be able to read it.

You'll also notice some of these screenshots have the "new" Mail/AddressBook/iCal icon, and some do not? Only two explanations possible:
1) screenshots came from different builds
2) screenshots are faked over time.
Which do you think is more likely, huh?

Look at the "path entry" drop-down. Why would Apple replace a drop-down sheet with that? Is comd-shift-G to hard to use for keyboard monkeys?

Chuckit · Jun 23, 2006, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Fake. Look at the "new" Mail/AddressBook/iCal app: the date is so small you'd never be able to read it.

How is that proof that it's fake? I mean, first, we can read it, and second, the month name on iCal is too small for me to read at my dock size.

(Incidentally: "Dock size" is still a dangerous thing to type.)

lpkmckenna · Jun 23, 2006, 10:42 PM

Here's another image from the same "eugbanana" website:

So, do you think this guy has something for fake Apple stuff?

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 23, 2006, 10:46 PM

I like the way how other than the red address book with tiny date there is no new drawn elements. Everything is made of existing pieces of the OS right now.

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 23, 2006, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Here's another image from the same "eugbanana" website:

So, do you think this guy has something for fake Apple stuff?

That's because it is from Eug (the posts) website dork. He is hosting it in case these things go down.

Kerrigan · Jun 23, 2006, 10:49 PM

wake me up when interesting fakes are released

Eug Wanker · Jun 23, 2006, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Where did that screenshot come from Eug?

Not the tiger hole but the other one.

Same place.

Originally Posted by Chuckit

How is that proof that it's fake? I mean, first, we can read it, and second, the month name on iCal is too small for me to read at my dock size.

Indeed.

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

Here's another image from the same "eugbanana" website:

So, do you think this guy has something for fake Apple stuff?

LOL. eugbanana.com is my website.

That directory your detective skillz unearthed is where I put images for MacNN posts.

Skywalkers new Hand · Jun 23, 2006, 11:04 PM

Apple has said 10.5 will be their last release for a whole and this is what they are putting up against Vista for the nest few years? Darker finder with tabs and a / in a list that gets the geeks all excited?!

Ya right.

What number of the list of main features will "iCal and addressbook integration" be?

Eug Wanker · 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by Skywalkers new Hand

Apple has said 10.5 will be their last release for a whole and this is what they are putting up against Vista for the nest few years? Darker finder with tabs and a / in a list that gets the geeks all excited?!

Ya right.

What number of the list of main features will "iCal and addressbook integration" be?

Well, I've got Vista installed, and I can tell you that even Tiger is much nicer than Vista overall.

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

You'll also notice some of these screenshots have the "new" Mail/AddressBook/iCal icon, and some do not? Only two explanations possible:
1) screenshots came from different builds
2) screenshots are faked over time.
Which do you think is more likely, huh?

No, the ones with the old icons are real screengrabs... of Tiger.

Note the name of the hard drive...

RGB · Jun 23, 2006, 11:41 PM

If you assume a couple leaked screens showing a new Finder is all that's new in the entire OS and pass judgment, no wonder Apple Legal doesn't like these floating around the internet.

goMac · Jun 23, 2006, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Skywalkers new Hand

Apple has said 10.5 will be their last release for a whole and this is what they are putting up against Vista for the nest few years? Darker finder with tabs and a / in a list that gets the geeks all excited?!

Ya right.

What number of the list of main features will "iCal and addressbook integration" be?

I've been watching iCals internals, and I'd bet good money Apple is building an Exchange like app. The calendar format was massively changed from 10.3 to 10.4, and Apple added a lot of stuff that allows for true calendar sharing. Not just posting your calendar for others to download into iCal, but using shared calendars groups of people can edit together. At this point it makes sense to integrate Address Book into iCal. When you have different people working on the same calendar, they are going to have to have address cards present in iCal. Also, like Exchange, you might want to invite someone to an event, or associate an event with a contact. Again, you'd want a highly integrated address book.

Apple working on the Finder? Nothing to be excited about? And how is Windows applications running in OS X not news?

I also thought of something that might explain the odd title bar for IE7. Apple might not be able to use normal OS X titlebars, just like how Classic didn't use OS X titlebars. Perhaps it's possible that Apple provides a theme for Windows to take a more Aqua look?

lpkmckenna · Jun 24, 2006, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

LOL. eugbanana.com is my website.

That directory your detective skillz unearthed is where I put images for MacNN posts.

- - e r i k - - · Jun 24, 2006, 12:50 AM

Anyone point out how nonsensically it is to group the action sprocket button with the path button yet?

Eug Wanker · Jun 24, 2006, 09:08 AM

Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -

Anyone point out how nonsensically it is to group the action sprocket button with the path button yet?

You can put the buttons wherever you want in Tiger, so one would assume the same is true in Leopard too.

Obi Wan's Ghost · Jun 24, 2006, 10:28 AM

Introducing extra wide screen, Spotty streaky Leopard desktop wallpaper, phat menus, and big upside down folders!

Chuckit · Jun 24, 2006, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

You can put the buttons wherever you want in Tiger, so one would assume the same is true in Leopard too.

I wasn't aware that you can group buttons together.