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The Final Dakar · Nov 2, 2012, 07:05 AM

...and our new fake asians don't feel more convincing than the old ones.

The Final Dakar · Nov 2, 2012, 11:08 AM

Herro?

Spheric Harlot · Nov 2, 2012, 12:38 PM

I love Dr. No, the first image isn't working, and I have no idea who the person in the second image is.

That's all I can contribute, and the fact that this thread isn't about Dr. No per se makes it uninteresting.

osiris · Nov 3, 2012, 04:59 AM

I always thought Dr. No was some kind of Chinese/East German mix. Not sure who the second guy is, so you tell me now!

andi*pandi · Nov 3, 2012, 05:35 AM

looks more like a vulcan, with those eyebrows.

LegendaryPinkOx · Nov 3, 2012, 08:23 AM

I still enjoyed the movie. My favorite was:

Waragainstsleep · Nov 3, 2012, 09:04 AM

The second guy is Hugo Weaving if I'm not mistaken. AKA Elrond or Agent Smith.

lpkmckenna · Nov 3, 2012, 10:12 AM

I have an admission to make: I have never seen a Sean Connery Bond film.

I did, however, see Darby O'Gill and the Little People, and Connery was awesome in that!

Spheric Harlot · Nov 3, 2012, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I have an admission to make: I have never seen a Sean Connery Bond film.

Wow.

You've really never seen a Bond movie?

lpkmckenna · Nov 3, 2012, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Wow.
You've really never seen a Bond movie?

Am I missing the sarcasm? I'm not sure.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 3, 2012, 12:15 PM

Okay, okay, I'll spell it out:

Daniel Craig is the first Bond since Sean Connery who's worth watching. If you've never seen a Sean Connery Bond, you haven't a clue what Bond is really about.

lpkmckenna · Nov 3, 2012, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Okay, okay, I'll spell it out:
Daniel Craig is the first Bond since Sean Connery who's worth watching. If you've never seen a Sean Connery Bond, you haven't a clue what Bond is really about.

I'll take your word for it. Pretty much the only Bond flicks I've seen were with Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan, and Daniel Craig. But I really have no desire to re-watch any non-Craig Bond films again, but I think I might have missed out on the Connery films.

When I was a kid, I saw a few Roger Moore Bond flicks at about the same time that Brosnan was Remington Steele on tv, so I have fond memories of both, but it's been a long time. I recall the "killer yo-yo" from Octopussy with the same kind of horror that face melting and spike impaling from Indy films left with me.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 3, 2012, 12:35 PM

Watch them. (Skip "Never Say Never Again" until you've watched the others; it's a later remake of "Thunderball" which features the great Klaus-Maria Brandauer, but it's got too much of the over-the-top silliness and illogic of the Moore years.)

They're very differently-paced from today's cinema, but Connery's Bond is wonderfully irreverent, noncommittal, but appropriately ruthless.

Craig is the first to have captured that, and those movies brought the character up-to-date, with a darker mood, while managing to give him even more depth.

I have to say, btw, that I'm one of probably about three people in the world who really like the George Lazenby Bond movie, though that's partly because of Telly Savalas.

Shaddim · Nov 3, 2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Okay, okay, I'll spell it out:
Daniel Craig is the first Bond since Sean Connery who's worth watching. If you've never seen a Sean Connery Bond, you haven't a clue what Bond is really about.

This. All of it.

osiris · Nov 3, 2012, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

Okay, okay, I'll spell it out:
Daniel Craig is the first Bond since Sean Connery who's worth watching. If you've never seen a Sean Connery Bond, you haven't a clue what Bond is really about.

I agree, you have to start with Sean Connery, I think the best Bond. May I add that for me Daniel Craig restored faith to the genre by bringing back the Sean Connery brand of Bond - less silliness and more intrigue/mystery to the character.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 3, 2012, 03:15 PM

I *may* have added that myself, already, in the following post.

Shaddim · Nov 3, 2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

I agree, you have to start with Sean Connery, I think the best Bond. May I add that for me Daniel Craig restored faith to the genre by bringing back the Sean Connery brand of Bond - less silliness and more intrigue/mystery to the character.

and sheer brutality.

andi*pandi · Nov 3, 2012, 03:28 PM

The spammers really, REALLY want us all to watch Skyfall.

I also liked George Lazenby. I enjoyed them all, for various reasons. Moore got a little too silly, Dalton perhaps a little less ruthless. Brosnan did a good job but the scripts were getting weak so I get the need for a reboot. Craig has ramped up the seriousness but it makes for a very dry movie. I seriously fall asleep, swimsuit scenes notwithstanding.

P · Nov 3, 2012, 03:58 PM

I like Connery as Bond as well, but honestly, neither Dr. No nor The Spy Who Loved Me are very good movies. Goldfinger, Thunderball and You Only Live Twice are good, but you sort of have to squint and ignore some of the values for them to work today (In Goldfinger Bond converts the girl, the one with the silly name, to his side, but the implication is that he also converts her from gay to straight by just... being masculine).

Lazenby was wooden, nuff said. Moore wanted to really do something else with the character, and fair enough, the Connery stuff wouldn't have worked in the seventies. A lot of people disliked his witty Bond, but to me the main problem is the silly plots in those movies (with one exception, can't remember which) - and that he was way too old by the end. Then they kept the same lousy director for the two Dalton movies, so he never got a chance. Brosnan worked out really well in Goldeneye, but all the others had terrible scripts, even when the basic premise had some potential.

Craig was great in Casino Royale, but noone can say Quantum of Solace was good movie. Apparently that was the writers strike talking, so I have some hope for Skyfall.

Waragainstsleep · Nov 3, 2012, 04:37 PM

I never made it to the end of QoS after trying twice to watch it. Thats very unusual, normally I will persevere to the very end of the crappiest films you can imagine. It bored me to sleep twice so I didn't bother a third time. The only other film in recent times I didn't watch the to the end was Twilight. That one also has the honour of being the only film I have ever deleted from my library. To put that in perspective, I still have Cheerleader Ninjas. And Ninja Cheerleaders. Not kidding.

subego · Nov 3, 2012, 07:48 PM

I saw the one with Trishelle.

osiris · Nov 4, 2012, 02:16 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

and sheer brutality.

Which is probably why the Walther LP53 was rather hastily abandoned. lol

Shaddim · Nov 4, 2012, 07:47 AM

There is a certain irony there, a man with a license to kill is photographed with a BB gun.

Thorzdad · Nov 4, 2012, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

There is a certain irony there, a man with a license to kill is photographed with a BB gun.

License to put someone's eye out with that thing

Uncle Skeleton · Nov 4, 2012, 09:40 AM

Well clearly they wouldn't have given him the license if they ever thought he could follow through on it. He bait-and-switched them.

The Final Dakar · Nov 5, 2012, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

I love Dr. No, the first image isn't working, and I have no idea who the person in the second image is.
That's all I can contribute, and the fact that this thread isn't about Dr. No per se makes it uninteresting.

It's a stealth Cloud Atlas thread, with a trapdoor for discussing how make-up has improved over the past 50 years.

Though I'm entirely serious regarding the OP – I don't think you could fool anyone on that.

Originally Posted by LegendaryPinkOx

I still enjoyed the movie. My favorite was:

The cauliflower ear was a nice touch.

The Final Dakar · Nov 8, 2012, 08:44 AM

Did my admission kill the thread? I didn't mind that it had ventured onto 007 instead...

knifecarrier2 · Nov 8, 2012, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'll take your word for it. Pretty much the only Bond flicks I've seen were with Roger Moore, Pierce Brosnan, and Daniel Craig. But I really have no desire to re-watch any non-Craig Bond films again, but I think I might have missed out on the Connery films.
When I was a kid, I saw a few Roger Moore Bond flicks at about the same time that Brosnan was Remington Steele on tv, so I have fond memories of both, but it's been a long time. I recall the "killer yo-yo" from Octopussy with the same kind of horror that face melting and spike impaling from Indy films left with me.

Connery > Brosnan > Lazenby > Craig > Moore > Dalton.

I actually really like Lazenby, and HMSS is probably my favorite Bond movie. It has the most character development (MARRIAGE!), most of it takes place in snowy climates.. it's just awesome.

knifecarrier2 · Nov 8, 2012, 09:04 AM

Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot

I have to say, btw, that I'm one of probably about three people in the world who really like the George Lazenby Bond movie, though that's partly because of Telly Savalas.

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

The spammers really, REALLY want us all to watch Skyfall.
I also liked George Lazenby.

Dude... we are the three.

But seriously HMSS was ****ing awesome.

Spheric Harlot · Nov 8, 2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by knifecarrier2

Connery > Brosnan > Lazenby > Craig > Moore > Dalton.

Connery > Craig > Lazenby > Moore > whatever else; never have the urge to watch one of those again.

Moore's Bond is fun because it's so campy. And the one with Jaws and Curd Jürgens is pretty awesome. That Lotus was a great Bond car.