[WizOSX]

My QS 867 (1 gb) that I bought a year ago won't boot OS9. Up until yesterday I only ran OS X on it--currently at 10.4.7. I own a 9.0.4 CD that I bought about 7 years ago and the QS won't boot from that CD. I wanted to install OS 9 on an old 3.2gb hard drive that I have but cannot from the QS. So I put the HD in my old G3 desktop (with G4 card), formatted the HD, installed OS 9 from the CD and built the OS up to 9.2.2. It boots just fine in the G3/G4. But--when I put it back into the QS it won't boot--in fact, OSX won't even see the drive. Any thoughts? Very weird and frustrating.

[mac1896]

Originally Posted by WizOSX 

My QS 867 (1 gb) that I bought a year ago won't boot OS9. Up until yesterday I only ran OS X on it--currently at 10.4.7. I own a 9.0.4 CD that I bought about 7 years ago and the QS won't boot from that CD. I wanted to install OS 9 on an old 3.2gb hard drive that I have but cannot from the QS. So I put the HD in my old G3 desktop (with G4 card), formatted the HD, installed OS 9 from the CD and built the OS up to 9.2.2. It boots just fine in the G3/G4. But--when I put it back into the QS it won't boot--in fact, OSX won't even see the drive. Any thoughts? Very weird and frustrating.

As far as I know, you need 9.2.2 to be able to boot on that Quicksilver. No Mac can boot to an EARLIER OS than it was released with.

Check minimum OS here:

apple-history.com

I didn't read thru all the way apparently, what is the OS 9.2.2 drive formatted as ??

[WizOSX]

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Originally Posted by mac1896

what is the OS 9.2.2 drive formatted as ??

MAC OS extended

[Art Vandelay]

Can you see it within Disk Utility? If not, then there's either a problem with the drive or the way you installed it in your Quicksilver.

[Horsepoo!!!]

I have a vague recollection that you have to check some kind of 'Make this drive OS 9-bootable' option if you're using the OS X Disk Utility app.

[Art Vandelay]

Originally Posted by Horsepoo!!! 

I have a vague recollection that you have to check some kind of 'Make this drive OS 9-bootable' option if you're using the OS X Disk Utility app.

The fact that he installed OS 9 and updated it implies that isn't the problem.

[mac1896]

Was the drive attached to a ATA card when 9.2.2 was installed ?

If so then you will have to :

1. Boot the drive from an ATA card in the Quicksilver also, or

2. Re-install 9.2.2 while attached to the old G3's ATA bus.

There have been several instances of not being able to boot a drive off of a system bus when it has been formatted while attached to an ATA card.

Why DU can't see it though would lead one to consider Art's suggestion.

Or possibly, a bad ATA cable, which I have had happen to me in a similar situation.

Keep us informed.

p.s. Did you also update the disk's drivers in the process of updating from 9.0.4 to 9.2.2. You need to if you didn't.

[CharlesS]

Make sure the jumpers on all your ATA devices are connected as either Master or Slave. If they are set to Cable Select, they will be recognized by OS X, but not OS 9, causing the problems you're seeing.

[WizOSX]

I changed the jumper setting on the drive from master to slave. Now OSX sees the drive and I can also use the drive to run Classic (a big improvement). But I still cannot boot from the drive. I then tried putting the setting back to master, removing the OSX drive and putting the OS9 drive in the same place on the ATA cable as where the OSX drive had been--still won't boot.

[CharlesS]

Please forgive me if I'm being way too obvious here, but just for safety's sake I'd like you to make sure all the drives are configured properly - if you have two drives on one ATA cable, the one plugged into the black connector should be Master and the one plugged into the grey cable should be Slave. There shouldn't be two Masters or two Slaves on the cable.

[WizOSX]

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

Please forgive me if I'm being way too obvious here, but just for safety's sake I'd like you to make sure all the drives are configured properly - if you have two drives on one ATA cable, the one plugged into the black connector should be Master and the one plugged into the grey cable should be Slave. There shouldn't be two Masters or two Slaves on the cable..

The master (OS X) is on the end of the cable (black) and the slave (OS 9) is next to it (grey). I also tried changing the OS 9 drive to master and putting it in place of the DVD drive--still no luck. Is there anything else obvious (like firmware update) that could be preventing the drive from booting?

[CharlesS]

What do you get when you try to boot from the drive? Flashing question mark? Sad Mac? Ignoring it and booting from the primary drive?

Does the drive show up as an option in the boot selector when you start up the computer while holding down the Option key? What happens if you select it there?

[WizOSX]

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Originally Posted by CharlesS

What do you get when you try to boot from the drive? Flashing question mark? Sad Mac? Ignoring it and booting from the primary drive?
Does the drive show up as an option in the boot selector when you start up the computer while holding down the Option key? What happens if you select it there?

When I set it as the startup disk and do restart I get a quick flashing question mark, then a OS 9 folder icon, then it jumps immediately to OS X and boots from there.

It does not appear in the boot selector even though it is then seen on the desktop and runs Classic fine.

[P]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay 

The fact that he installed OS 9 and updated it implies that isn't the problem.

It might still be the problem. The "Make drive OS 9 bootable" or "Install Mac OS 9 drivers" or similar is required to boot from it, but you can still install and update OS 9 on it while booted from CD.