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Sep 11, 2017, 10:51 PM
 
September 12 is expected to be a big release day for new hardware. Let's talk about it here.

My question, and maybe the keynote will address it since my car comes with a Qi wireless charging dock, could I use that to charge an iPhone 8?
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Sep 12, 2017, 12:49 AM
 
Apple will probably implement their own solution... I wouldn't bet on it.
     
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Sep 12, 2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Sep 12, 2017, 05:40 PM
 
Nice, Qi ready
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Sep 13, 2017, 07:45 AM
 
In many ways, this will be a release that is a bit hard to sell. Wireless charging is nice, but a lot of things have it already. Face unlock is great, but it is only on the idiot-expensive model, and others have had it before. If it works better, great, but that is a hard argument to make. Basically the 8 is the quintessential s-model, while the X mostly sells on the design.
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Sep 13, 2017, 02:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by P View Post
Face unlock is great, but it is only on the idiot-expensive model
Is there a discount for non-idiot faces?
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Oct 5, 2017, 10:42 AM
 
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In many ways, this will be a release that is a bit hard to sell. Wireless charging is nice, but a lot of things have it already.
Not quite. I'll bet you an insane amount of money that Apple is working to redesign their magic mouse and trackpad to include wireless charging. Turning their Magic Mouse 2 upside-down to plug it in is a dork move, so imagine having a wireless charging mousepad that would also work for your phone when you don't need a mousepad. You get the idea.
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Oct 5, 2017, 02:05 PM
 
I... I... don't want a wired mousepad.

If my trackpad needs to sit on something with a wire, shouldn't it just have a wire?
     
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Oct 5, 2017, 03:23 PM
 
You won't have to worry about that. Wireless charging will get faster, and the mouse will still get a few months of battery life. So, imagine a 30-minute wireless charge giving you another few months of use. Meanwhile, your iPhone 8/X can use the pad when your mouse, or trackpad, or keyboard isn't using it. Yes... a wireless charging keyboard.


The other idea that I had this morning is... it's gotta be more than just a wireless charging pad, because that's friggin' easy to make with today's technology. Apple has to do something groundbreaking. Let's call their product WiPad. Imagine being able to charge your Pencil, iPhone, and Mouse, and then still have space leftover to pick up Pencil and use the remaining surface area like a tablet. Then you can use the WiPad as a note taker, or free writing or drawing in a photo app, and when you put Pencil back down, it'll recharge.
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Oct 7, 2017, 01:48 PM
 
I never understood the need for a wireless keyboard in the first place. Wireless mouse OK, but keyboard?
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Oct 7, 2017, 02:27 PM
 
I like the clean look, which is why I don't want a wired charging pad on my desk, but in a general sense I agree.

It's nice for the one on my coffee table paired with my HTPC. Less tripping.
     
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Oct 10, 2017, 03:47 PM
 
HTPC sure - I used to have an HTPC myself, and used a Logitech wireless desktop thingy for it - but that and for use with iPad are the exceptions.
The new Mac Pro has up to 30 MB of cache inside the processor itself. That's more than the HD in my first Mac. Somehow I'm still running out of space.
     
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Oct 27, 2017, 04:04 AM
 
Dammit, Apple... it's already four minutes past!
     
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Ordered!
     
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Looks like I managed to snag one from the November 3rd batch. Yay!
     
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which one did you order?
     
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Oct 27, 2017, 03:59 PM
 
Black 256.

Because there's no bezel, I was tempted to go white for the first time, but in the end stuck with what I'm used to.

I could get away with the smaller size, but it's really nice having room for activities not be a question.
     
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Nov 5, 2017, 11:34 AM
 
Not to sound too hyperbolic, but the iPhone X is a game changer for me. Granted, I had been using an iPhone 5 for the last few months (I gave my 6S Plus to my husband), but this thing rocks. I honestly don't even notice Face ID. It works best when you have raise to wake turned on. I grab my phone and swipe up and before you know it, I'm at the home screen. I've seen videos where people complain about having to tap the screen first to wake it up, but as far as I'm concerned, "they're using it wrong". I immediately took to the lack of a home button. I haven't once tried pressing the bottom of my screen. I adapt to change quickly so I'm sure others will have a different experience. I've adapted to the swipe gestures easily as well. Compared to the 6/7 design, the X is miles ahead in appearance and quality feel. (I hated the look of the 6/7, I thought it was cheap looking). I like the look and feel so much I'm going without a cover for the first time. I've added AT&T's insurance plan just in case. This is also the first time I've used my iPhone one-handed. Maybe I'm a klutz but with the 6S Plus I would tend to flip the phone out of my hand when reaching down to push in the home button. The OLED screen is beautiful. Apple is being a little disingenuous with the whole no-bezel hype (I think the bezel is still significant). As Apple has stated, there is noticeable color shift when viewed at an angle but that seems to be an OLED thing. It happens to my Apple Watch as well. They are warning about possible subtle burn-in as well. Samsung makes amazing displays so I'm not too worried about that.

I got the Silver 256 version. I'd always gone with black in the past but I wanted the shiny stainless band. The space gray has a gray band and it looks like it would show fingerprints more. Also, the silver still has a black front.

TL;DR version: The iPhone X is awesome!
     
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Nov 5, 2017, 06:18 PM
 
What case do you recommend to protect it from scratches, front and back?

I finally saw a demo unit at Best Buy, what a huge screen, a bit yellowish except too blue at off angles, but it looks fragile.
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Nov 6, 2017, 12:23 AM
 
I had a look at the iPhone X in person, and I have to say wow. The silver iPhone X is tied with the black iPhone 4S in terms of best design. It's too bad I had to buy a phone last year … Just trying it for a short while, it is clear to me that Face ID is really a step forward, and not just a Plan B, because Apple couldn't figure out how to put a finger print sensor behind a display. It is seamless.
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Nov 8, 2017, 03:16 AM
 
Finally got mine going! Been using it about four hours.

The screen is very nice.
The notch isn’t bothersome.
With one exception, swiping for the home button is awesome. Took to it immediately. This may be a “duh” observation, but it feels so natural because after tapping a physical home button, swiping your thumb up to the screen is what happens anyway.

FaceID works well. There’s a tilt angle it likes which is a little off from my natural stance, but I’m sure I’ll acclimate. This is the exception with “swipe for home button”. I’m so used to having my still thumb on the home button, FaceID will unlock, and I’ll just stand there waiting for something to happen. I’m sure I’ll get used to this too.

The one thing which is kinda actively bad is when I’m typing, the crook of my hand keeps whacking the microphone button. It’s super annoying.
     
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Nov 8, 2017, 04:02 AM
 
I just played with one in the local Apple store, and I have to agree with you on the home button. That just wasn't an issue. And I read that one of the advantages is that FaceID allows you to unlock your phone while checking notifications on the lock screen. By default, some of them are hidden (e. g. the content of emails), and you have to unlock your phone before they show up. In some sense, FaceID makes the authentication step transparent.

BTW, what color did you get, subego?
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Nov 8, 2017, 01:19 PM
 
Black... out of habit.

This was the first time I seriously considered another option though, since the silver doesn’t have the “bezel contrast” issue of previous, lighter colored iDevices.
     
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This was the first time I seriously considered another option though, since the silver doesn’t have the “bezel contrast” issue of previous, lighter colored iDevices.
I've always had black iPhones so far, but I have to say, the black front, pearlescent back and the stainless steel rim looks so much better to me than the space gray. I really wish it were my year to buy a phone, but apart from cosmetics, my iPhone 7 is still perfect.
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Nov 8, 2017, 11:18 PM
 
I’m going to bet the silver takes fingerprints better. The back of my phone looks all smudgy.
     
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Nov 9, 2017, 07:52 AM
 
Now that I’ve spent more time with the phone, I’m loving it. Feels like a new device in a way the last three haven’t.

FaceID has its flaws, but it’s just so much better than TouchID it doesn’t matter.

The skinny bezel may be too much of a good thing, at least with my hands. That problem with accidentally activating the microphone with my palm when I’m typing is unbelievably annoying.
     
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Same question subego about protecting the phone:

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What case do you recommend to protect it from scratches, front and back?
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Nov 9, 2017, 03:12 PM
 
Except for a bumper on the 4 to fix the antenna, I’ve always gone nekkid. Only broke one so I’m going to risk it with the X.
     
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Nov 9, 2017, 03:14 PM
 
And so it doesn’t seem like I’m being unnecessarily whiny about the mic being activated, it can crash Safari... I’ve lost four posts mid composition in two days of use.
     
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Nov 10, 2017, 04:24 AM
 
Unintended design clash... I find myself doing a home button swipe in Safari instead of the tap for tabs and bookmarks. I don’t think they were meant to share like that.
     
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Nov 10, 2017, 11:16 AM
 
All iPhone X users, take note of the following:

https://www.macrumors.com/2017/11/10...ne-on-display/
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I can’t figure out why... I kinda like the notch.
     
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Nov 10, 2017, 06:32 PM
 
Winter hit Chicago today.

Can confirm: cold jacks the touchscreen. Bad Apple.
     
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Nov 11, 2017, 01:16 AM
 
I’ve found a grip which better isolates my palm from the microphone button, but that puts my stubby thumb just out of “natural” reach of the home swipe.

Now, my hasty attempts to unlock the phone abortively pull up notifications.
     
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You’re colding it wrong.
     
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Nov 15, 2017, 11:30 PM
 
I’m willing to accept this is the truth. Not every device can accommodate every body. I’ll have to deal with it regardless of how frustrating it is.

Except when tapping the microphone crashes Safari and destroys everything you’ve typed. This accommodates no body.
     
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Nov 16, 2017, 08:59 PM
 
Try the new iOS 11.1.2 update, it's supposed to respond better in cold temps.
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Nov 18, 2017, 03:59 AM
 
I give up.

Shut off dictation.
     
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Nov 24, 2017, 12:18 AM
 
Now that I’ve fixed that problem, the only other thing is the do not disturb icon got displaced by the notch.

This will materially **** me over at some point. I forget it’s on every day.

I have no schedule, so unfortunately, putting it on a timer won’t help.
     
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Now, my hasty attempts to unlock the phone abortively pull up notifications.
This turned out to be an OS issue. Reboot fixes it.
     
   
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