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Noonster · May 3, 2005, 06:11 AM

Before i upgraded to Tiger I had a transparent dock... now on tiger it is gone and the program that made it trasparent isnt working.

Does anyone know when I will be able to make the dock transparent again??

Cheers
Daz

Randman · May 3, 2005, 06:13 AM

What program were you using?

I went ahead and added ClearDock since APE was upgraded for Tiger and it's working just fine. Transparent as a pane of glass.

Noonster · May 3, 2005, 07:56 AM

I was using TransparentDock 2.2 when on Panther
- http://www.freerangemac.com/TransparentDock2.html

So if i get APE (whats that??) and then find ClearDock i should be able to have it transparent again.

Can you please tell me where to find them.

Randman · May 3, 2005, 07:59 AM

unsanity.com

Noonster · May 3, 2005, 08:00 AM

Dont worry about the question above as I am sure I have just found them

ClearDock
- http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/cleardock

APE
- http://www.unsanity.com/haxies/ape/

Do I install APE first then ClearDock??
Does it slow down the system at all??

Randman · May 3, 2005, 08:02 AM

Yes, APE first then clear dock. I've never experienced a slowdown and I run 4 or 5 APE modules at the same time.

Noonster · May 3, 2005, 08:06 AM

^^ Thanks for your help...
- I will get them tonight.... OSX looks so much better with a cleardock

Daz

EatingPie · May 3, 2005, 06:36 PM

Cleardock leaves a thin border around the Dock for me. Don't know why.

More importanlty, however, I far prefer to have the Dock application hacked to be clear rather than running an Ape module for this. If someone comes up with a new TransparentDock application, I'd be happy to use it!

-Pie

ManOfSteal · May 3, 2005, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by EatingPie

Cleardock leaves a thin border around the Dock for me. Don't know why.

More importanlty, however, I far prefer to have the Dock application hacked to be clear rather than running an Ape module for this. If someone comes up with a new TransparentDock application, I'd be happy to use it!

-Pie

TransparentDock will be updated for Tiger...just be patient.

cruciarius · May 3, 2005, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by EatingPie

Cleardock leaves a thin border around the Dock for me. Don't know why.

More importanlty, however, I far prefer to have the Dock application hacked to be clear rather than running an Ape module for this. If someone comes up with a new TransparentDock application, I'd be happy to use it!

-Pie

i haven't upgraded to tiger, yet, but i use cleardock and i don't have any border on my dock.

ManOfSteal · May 3, 2005, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by cruciarius

i haven't upgraded to tiger, yet, but i use cleardock and i don't have any border on my dock.

Same here; however, the thing I hate about ClearDock (any version) is that when you hide an open application, the arrow beneath the open app goes completely away. That is wrong behavior and something that TransparentDock does not do.

I'll continue to use ClearDock until TransparentDock is Tiger-patible.

cruciarius · May 3, 2005, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

Same here; however, the thing I hate about ClearDock (any version) is that when you hide an open application, the arrow beneath the open app goes completely away. That is wrong behavior and something that TransparentDock does not do.

I'll continue to use ClearDock until TransparentDock is Tiger-patible.

i use tinkertool with cleardock, so when my apps are hidden, they are also transparent. i don't really look at the arrows.

EatingPie · May 4, 2005, 03:42 AM

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

TransparentDock will be updated for Tiger...just be patient.

Great! Thanks much for the heads up... and TIA for the update!!

-Pie

Noonster · May 5, 2005, 07:49 AM

Hopeing it will be updated soon

Stuphalina · May 5, 2005, 10:40 AM

I too get that "ghost" dock with cleardock, is it possible that is because I use that with tinkertool? I'm not sure how they would relate. In panther I used a mix of transparentdock and cleardock. I hope they will work together again soon!

Fusion · May 5, 2005, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

TransparentDock will be updated for Tiger...just be patient.

Where has this been confirmed?

Stradlater · May 5, 2005, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Fusion

Where has this been confirmed?

On the TransparentDock website.

ManOfSteal · May 5, 2005, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

On the TransparentDock website.

Correct.

http://www.freerangemac.com/

Noonster · May 6, 2005, 03:40 AM

Tiger Update: TransparentDock will be updated for Mac OS X Tiger (10.4) and is nearing completion. More news will be available soon...

mugget · May 9, 2005, 07:14 AM

anyone know how to manually edit the Dock to change the transparency? if only it was like editing the Dashboard shelf...

ManOfSteal · May 9, 2005, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by mugget

anyone know how to manually edit the Dock to change the transparency? if only it was like editing the Dashboard shelf...

Nope, it's extremely difficult and you could easily hose something up within in the system trying to change it yourself via the Terminal.

Noonster · May 10, 2005, 02:48 PM

^^ Yeah agree.... You could use cleardock as suggested but I am getting the feeling TransparentDock is better??

Fusion · May 10, 2005, 03:38 PM

Yeah, TD is significantly better. I really hope it gets updated soon. I miss it

cruciarius · May 10, 2005, 03:56 PM

in what way is TD better than ClearDock?

Fusion · May 10, 2005, 05:58 PM

Well first of all, it's not an APE. APE's are great, but not really necessary for this application.

There are far more options in TD than CD

In particular, the feature that I use, of changing the Triangle colors to transparent, in CD, opening apps still have a black one, whereas TD, it does it permanently.

I guess saying one is 'better' than the other is not necessary, it's just personal preference.

fisherKing · May 10, 2005, 06:58 PM

locking the icons in the dock (in TD) is a nice feature (wish osx had that as an option);
watch my friend's kids drag icons out & rearrange his dock...yikes!

meanwhile, i wish i could turn off notification, ie docks bouncing when they want me.
or had some choices, is flashing icons...anything but bouncing!

(used dock detox in 10.3, worked on some but not all apps)

dock detox for 10.4???

ManOfSteal · May 10, 2005, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by cruciarius

in what way is TD better than ClearDock?

I lost count at about 13 different options/preferences that TD can do that CD cannot.

Randman · May 11, 2005, 01:57 AM

At least ClearDock works with Tiger.

Fusion · May 11, 2005, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

locking the icons in the dock (in TD) is a nice feature (wish osx had that as an option);
watch my friend's kids drag icons out & rearrange his dock...yikes!

meanwhile, i wish i could turn off notification, ie docks bouncing when they want me.
or had some choices, is flashing icons...anything but bouncing!

(used dock detox in 10.3, worked on some but not all apps)

dock detox for 10.4???

I am pretty sure you meant "meanwhile until TD is updated" but just in case you didn't know, that is an option in TD. That and changing the triangles to transparent were the two options I always used.

Noonster · May 11, 2005, 04:16 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

At least ClearDock works with Tiger.

Yeah agree.... will use it for now but as soon as they release TD I will be getting that

ZXspectrum · May 14, 2005, 07:37 PM

it's out v2.3

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6490

themarvelous3 · May 14, 2005, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by cruciarius

in what way is TD better than ClearDock?

i thought cleardock was better simply because it was free...but i'll give TD a chance since the popular opinion is that it's better.

i only get the border with ClearDock if i have certain themes running in shapeshifter. not all though. Xi-Tibook2 (which should be updated for 10.4 in my opinion) doesnt, but Al Book (i think it is) does give me a border.

ManOfSteal · May 14, 2005, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by ZXspectrum

it's out v2.3

http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/6490

New Hotness!

davdav · May 15, 2005, 03:19 AM

Allllllrighty :-)

Noonster · May 15, 2005, 04:33 AM

Official Site link
- http://www.freerangemac.com/Software...Dock2.3.dmg.gz

Randman · May 15, 2005, 04:37 AM

Had some troubles with it the first time. Had to reboot from the saved dock info but was able to get it going after that. So, make sure there's a backup.

Noonster · May 15, 2005, 04:42 AM

In action

Thank god its back!

Noonster · May 15, 2005, 04:43 AM

Yeah I had a backup but didnt need it mate... mine just worked first time.

fisherKing · May 15, 2005, 11:49 AM

transparent dock is great!
locking icons, no bouncing notification...plus of course transparency.
excellent!

themarvelous3 · May 15, 2005, 11:23 PM

so...supposedly, the Finder icon is hideable with TD...anyone know how to make this happen? i checked the "Make Find Icon (re)movable" box but it wont let me remove the icon from the dock...any help? so far i do like TD better...will probably spend the $8 soon for it.

ManOfSteal · May 15, 2005, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by themarvelous3

so...supposedly, the Finder icon is hideable with TD...anyone know how to make this happen? i checked the "Make Find Icon (re)movable" box but it wont let me remove the icon from the dock...any help? so far i do like TD better...will probably spend the $8 soon for it.

Works just fine here with that option enabled...

Are you running TransparentDock v2.3.1?

themarvelous3 · May 16, 2005, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by ManOfSteal

Works just fine here with that option enabled...

Are you running TransparentDock v2.3.1?

yeah, the version listed above...

fisherKing · May 16, 2005, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by themarvelous3

yeah, the version listed above...

and u haven't, uh...locked the icons in the dock?
works for me as well....

themarvelous3 · May 16, 2005, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

and u haven't, uh...locked the icons in the dock?
works for me as well....

nope, made sure that was turned off first...i'm really not that stupid...promise.

maybe i am. do i just drag it out now?...

fisherKing · May 16, 2005, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by themarvelous3

nope, made sure that was turned off first...i'm really not that stupid...promise.

maybe i am. do i just drag it out now?...

no offense, just had to ask.
try trashing prefs, setting up again?

ManOfSteal · May 16, 2005, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by themarvelous3

maybe i am. do i just drag it out now?...

Yes.

themarvelous3 · May 16, 2005, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by fisherKing

no offense, just had to ask.
try trashing prefs, setting up again?

will try that. since simply dragging it out didnt work. it does let me move around in the dock just not remove it.

fisherKing · 08:56 PM

ah, updating!
just went to 10.4.1....and transparent dock no longer works!!

tried trashing prefs, logging out/in...

no go.

edit: note that after installing 10.4.1, you'll get a warning that a dock app may not work.

anyway, cleardock is still good (as are shapeshifter & mighty mouse)...!
but since i paid for transparent dock, am looking forward to it again.

brazil · May 16, 2005, 09:07 PM

I was just thinking about how much work has already been done and now,,,,,,,10.4.1. I am weary.

fisherKing · May 16, 2005, 09:15 PM

it's nuts, the endless updating. i have friends still in os9; they get their work done, and are happy (or happy enough).

but some of us (certainly those, like me, who spend too much time here at macnn),
have updat-itis.

we HAVE to do it NOW (and then bitch about the consequences).