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The Final Dakar
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Sep 22, 2017, 03:35 PM
 
How about some more sabotage?

     
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Sep 22, 2017, 04:06 PM
 
He said it his first monologue after returning, that no baby should have to die because they don't have health insurance. May 1. He's too busy crying and thanking everyone at the hospitals to go into it more, posting a link to donate to the hospital... but he is clearer the next night.

https://youtu.be/MmWWoMcGmo0?t=10m25s
     
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Sep 22, 2017, 05:37 PM
 
No, that's not what I was talking about. I said, he didn't reveal he wasn't personally using the "benefits" of the ACA until much later. I'm fully aware the he cried on TV, trying to promote Obamacare. It's just too bad that it's virtually worthless to most and not nearly what he and others build it up to be.
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Sep 22, 2017, 06:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
No, that's not what I was talking about. I said, he didn't reveal he wasn't personally using the "benefits" of the ACA until much later. I'm fully aware the he cried on TV, trying to promote Obamacare. It's just too bad that it's virtually worthless to most and not nearly what he and others build it up to be.

What is the right doing to improve it? Kimmel is simply trying to not make American healthcare worse.
     
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Sep 22, 2017, 06:47 PM
 
I don't know what you're saying besson, but if you're trying to talk to me you can save it. I'm not opening your blocked comments.
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I have no idea what you said Tightpants, I have you blocked.
     
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Oct 13, 2017, 09:27 AM
 
Trump ending CSR payments. That's not even sabotage. That's murder.
     
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Oct 13, 2017, 01:08 PM
 
And multiple states say they're going to sue. Trump can't change the law by executive order.

Trump claims the CSR payments are unconstitutional, hence how he can end them. But if my civics lessons are accurate, it is the courts that can declare a law unconstitutional, not the executive. Trump should have sued to overturn that part of the law, and asked the court to order suspension of payments.

Skipping those step will cause him to lose the case in my opinion. Lower courts practice "constitutional avoidance" where they leave Constitutional challenges to higher courts whenever procedural rules or precedence can resolve a case. And Trump short-circuited procedure, as well as usurped judicial authority. So I expect him to lose at lower courts, probably with a protective order reinstating the CSR payments. He can argue the constitutionality at circuit appeals courts or SCOTUS, but from a bad starting position.
     
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Oct 13, 2017, 01:31 PM
 
The GOP did sue that they were unconstitutional, but Trump stopping payments made that moot.
     
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Oct 16, 2017, 03:53 PM
 
Trump stops CSRs and insurance rates get large hikes. You can't explain that!
     
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Oct 16, 2017, 04:03 PM
 
What's to explain? Trump improved health insurance for millions, just like he said. Improved their rates upwards.
     
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Oct 16, 2017, 04:06 PM
 
I'm mocking the very clear cause/effect that no doubt republicans will pretend doesn't exist.
     
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Oct 17, 2017, 02:26 PM
 
There seems to be a tentative deal to fund CSRs. Assuming leadership doesn't torpedo it and it passes, I assume it's too late for Pennsylvanians and Floridians facing massive premium hikes.
     
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Oct 17, 2017, 04:09 PM
 
Arizona’s “benchmark” plan already went up 116% earlier this year.
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Oct 17, 2017, 07:02 PM
 
Pondering how this could be ****ed up while bored at the gym and figure Trump will say he'll sign it after tax 'reform' or some other months long process to come.
     
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Oct 19, 2017, 01:44 PM
 
Graham AND Cassidy are sponsoring the CSR bill, which is kind of ****ed. Also ****ed up - that piece of shit Heller isn't.
     
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Oct 22, 2017, 02:53 PM
 
https://www.propublica.org/article/d...-for-the-waste
In the early 1990s, Bill York recalled his bosses at Alcon coming to him with a pressing request. Patients were complaining that some of the company’s drops caused stinging and burning in their eyes. Could he find a fix?

York, head of the research lab at the company’s Fort Worth, Texas, headquarters, knew one way to ease the irritation: Make the drops smaller. The size of eyedrops isn’t regulated, he said recently. Some are over 50 microliters, more than twice what the eye can hold.
Back in the early 1990s, Jerry Cagle was the head of product development at Alcon. Cagle, who has a doctorate in microbiology, retired in 2008 after 32 years at the company. He said the microdrop project failed because it raised too many questions — all of them about profits.
So, what's the free market solution to this kind of thinking?
     
 
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