[jjahshik32]

I'm seriously thinking about selling my mac pro 2.8ghz and selling my 15" 2.4ghz SR mbp and just opting for a single 17" mbp and put the rest of the money in the bank.

But my question is to the people who bought the new 17" hi res mbp and curious on the quality of the screen. Also do you guys notice a significant increase in speed compared to the sr mbp?? I do alot of encoding of hd content and think the 17" can get the job done while pocketing 5 grand.

[solofx7]

I cannot answer any of those questions, but I can tell you that they are not shipping for 2-3 weeks!

[mduell]

There is no SR MBP, but the latest ones aren't much faster than the previous ones aside from a few apps that can make use of the increased cache or SSE4.

[slpdLoad]

I was under the impression on the 15" had a LED backlit screen?

[Simon]

The 15" MBP and the 17" MBP with HD BTO option have LED backlit screens.

[jjahshik32]

Originally Posted by mduell 

There is no SR MBP, but the latest ones aren't much faster than the previous ones aside from a few apps that can make use of the increased cache or SSE4.

SR= Santa Rosa/Merom

[Simon]

Originally Posted by jjahshik32 

SR= Santa Rosa/Merom

SR = Santa Rosa. Merom works with both Napa and Crestline so really it has nothing special to do with SR.

And no, there is no SR Mac and there never has been. It's Crestline. We've gone over this several times already. I'm surprised it still pops up every now and then.

[jjahshik32]

Originally Posted by Simon 

SR = Santa Rosa. Merom works with both Napa and Crestline so really it has nothing special to do with SR.

And no, there is no SR Mac and there never has been. It's Crestline. We've gone over this several times already. I'm surprised it still pops up every now and then.

Well it is Crestline code named "Santa Rosa." Same thing.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by jjahshik32 

Well it is Crestline code named "Santa Rosa." Same thing.

No. Crestline is the code name for the chipset; Santa Rosa is the codename for the Core 2 Duo + Cresline + Kedron (4965AGN wifi) platform.

[jjahshik32]

Originally Posted by mduell 

No. Crestline is the code name for the chipset; Santa Rosa is the codename for the Core 2 Duo + Cresline + Kedron (4965AGN wifi) platform.

What I read on what the Santa Rosa is is just a Crestline Platform which usually has direct x10 support, to me in the end santa rosa is crestline.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by jjahshik32 

Well it is Crestline code named "Santa Rosa." Same thing.

Umm, no. Crestline and SR are both code names. But while one is the code name for a mobile platform the other is a chipset. They are most definitely not the same thing.

Originally Posted by jjahshik32 

What I read on what the Santa Rosa is is just a Crestline Platform which usually has direct x10 support, to me in the end santa rosa is crestline.

You are entirely wrong on this one. DirectX has nothing at all to do with it.

SR is a Centrino platform. No Mac has ever been part of that. Have you ever noticed a Centrino badge anywhere on Apple's marketing material or boxes? Nope. Well there's a reason for that. Macs aren't Centrino.

Here's the real deal: The SR platform has three requirements:
• C2D processor (Merom or Penryn)
• Crestline chipset (GM965 or PM965)
• Kedron WiFi chipset (Intel 4965AGN)

The MBP has the first two, but it has an Atheros WiFi chipset instead of Intel's Kedron. And hence while the MBP has the same chipset as other SR notebooks (namely Crestline) it does not fulfill the requirements of SR. It is not SR. Plain and simple.

Calling any Mac SR because it has a Crestline chipset is like calling a plane a car because both happen to have wheels.

Can we now stop this nonsense?

[jjahshik32]

Originally Posted by Simon 

Umm, no. Crestline and SR are both code names. But while one is the code name for a mobile platform the other is a chipset. They are most definitely not the same thing.



You are entirely wrong on this one. DirectX has nothing at all to do with it.

SR is a Centrino platform. No Mac has ever been part of that. Have you ever noticed a Centrino badge anywhere on Apple's marketing material or boxes? Nope. Well there's a reason for that. Macs aren't Centrino.

Here's the real deal: The SR platform has three requirements:
• C2D processor (Merom or Penryn)
• Crestline chipset (GM965 or PM965)
• Kedron WiFi chipset (Intel 4965AGN)

The MBP has the first two, but it has an Atheros WiFi chipset instead of Intel's Kedron. And hence while the MBP has the same chipset as other SR notebooks (namely Crestline) it does not fulfill the requirements of SR. It is not SR. Plain and simple.

Calling any Mac SR because it has a Crestline chipset is like calling a plane a car because both happen to have wheels.

Can we now stop this nonsense?

Ah, got ya. So basically the wifi makes it the "whole" part of the platform "Santa Rosa." Either way the Santa Rosa has been burned into my mind with the previous version of mbp's and thats what I call them. So its a partial Santa Rosa/with an atheros wifi card/chipset.

[mduell]

Originally Posted by jjahshik32 

Ah, got ya. So basically the wifi makes it the "whole" part of the platform "Santa Rosa." Either way the Santa Rosa has been burned into my mind with the previous version of mbp's and thats what I call them. So its a partial Santa Rosa/with an atheros wifi card/chipset.

Why go through contortions like "partial Santa Rosa with Atheros wifi" when there's a simple, less ambiguous name for it?

[jjahshik32]

Just been calling it SR mbp for way too long and just convenient for me to distinguish between the exact penryn and merom mbp model. I guess since the pc counterparts are the sr mbp which the apple's version (which I now know isnt the sr really due to the only wifi card being different) but similar in every other spec and same time span.

Anyway anyone receive their 17" led mbp? I'm eager to hear a review from it or how great the screen is.

[Magicite]

Ordered the 17" High-res LED Glossy display last Tuesday. Expected ship date: March 18th.

Playing the waiting game...

[WizOSX]

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Originally Posted by Simon

The 15" MBP and the 17" MBP with HD BTO option have LED backlit screens.

I can see that the 17" has this option but not the 15"--too bad.

[jjahshik32]

Originally Posted by Magicite 

Ordered the 17" High-res LED Glossy display last Tuesday. Expected ship date: March 18th.

Playing the waiting game...

oh, I hate that game. Congrats man~!! If you can comment on how you love the 17" hi res glossy when you receive it then I'd appreciate it.

[Simon]

Originally Posted by WizOSX 

I can see that the 17" has this option but not the 15"--too bad.

HD is an option only on the 17". Presumably because Apple believes that ~150 ppi is simply too high.

The LED backlit is only an option on the 17" HD because it's always there on the 15".

[Fusion]

I ordered the 17" high resolution matte screen the day they were announced. My expected ship date is March 11th - 14th. I would be bummed about the wait time but I'll be @ SXSW for a week. I will be bummed however if they start bumping that date back. The local stores also don't have any in stock and have no idea when they'll get em.

I previously owned the 17" high resolution non-LED 2.6 MBP and the screen was great. The only 2 issues I had with it were a) some uneven backlighting until it got warm and b) brightness was a bit dim compared to my CC 15" MBP. I expect the LED to address both of those issues.

However, even with the CC instead of the LED, the main advantage of this option will ALWAYS be the increased DPI. OS X simply looks insanely beautiful at that high DPI. Using my 15" or a desktop looks goofy and uncomfortable now, almost like something from a toy store. Once you go high DPI you'll never go back ... as long as your eyes can take it. I of course wouldn't recommend it if you're 70.