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KaptainKaya · Jun 17, 2002, 09:48 AM

Holy crap, we got an update to IE. It doesn't seem to be on the Mactopia website but MacCentral is reporting that its out. Hopefully this fixes a lot of the 5.1.4 issues...

goatnet · Jun 17, 2002, 09:58 AM

Anyone try it yet? I'm stuck at work and I gotta wait until lunch time to check it out.

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 10:08 AM

MacCentral sucks so damn bad, why post the article with no direct d/l link? It's not even posted on MacTopia, what idiots.

I wonder how big this update will be, I am really looking forward to it.

philzilla · Jun 17, 2002, 10:11 AM

no versiontracker or software update either. hmm. i love this thread.

rjenkinson · Jun 17, 2002, 10:13 AM

but wait! software update gives me... nothing!

-r.

tobster · Jun 17, 2002, 10:15 AM

The press release is out already by M$ but they haven't made it available for download yet. Macminute has the story too.

<a href="http://www.macminute.com" target="_blank">Macminute</a>

- tobs

kovacs · Jun 17, 2002, 10:17 AM

Why are you testing my patience ?!!

[ 06-17-2002, 10:18 AM: Message edited by: kovacs ]

Drizzt · Jun 17, 2002, 10:19 AM

Why are you testing my sanity? (j/k)

tinrib · Jun 17, 2002, 10:28 AM

wow this update rocks. This seriously beats the PANTS off mozilla!!! I thought I would never use IE again. It just reclaimed the top spot in my book. LOVE the new 'hidden features'

iSilver · Jun 17, 2002, 10:28 AM

still nothing ... it wasn't april fools day was it?

Sophus · Jun 17, 2002, 10:36 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tinrib:
wow this update rocks. This seriously beats the PANTS off mozilla!!! I thought I would never use IE again. It just reclaimed the top spot in my book. LOVE the new 'hidden features'

<hr /></blockquote>agree! Very good update. Still no tabbed browsing. Still trouble with some CSS. But a good update <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

kovacs · Jun 17, 2002, 10:44 AM

When they release it, it should be here:

<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp</a>

It's not released yet ! But I think that this will be the download location...I hope

oeyvind · Jun 17, 2002, 10:48 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Sophus:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tinrib:
wow this update rocks. This seriously beats the PANTS off mozilla!!! I thought I would never use IE again. It just reclaimed the top spot in my book. LOVE the new 'hidden features'

<hr /></blockquote>agree! Very good update. Still no tabbed browsing. Still trouble with some CSS. But a good update <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>at what URL??

KaptainKaya · Jun 17, 2002, 10:49 AM

Full press release from MS:
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2002/Jun02/06-17IEMacPR.asp" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2002/Jun02/06-17IEMacPR.asp</a>

Drizzt · Jun 17, 2002, 10:58 AM

Where the hell is it?

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2002, 10:59 AM

Nothing in the iDisk either. IE 5.2 seems to be rather... vaporous.

dark3lf · Jun 17, 2002, 11:20 AM

Mozilla 1.1a > IE 5.2

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 11:21 AM

Mozilla 1.1a = NO SCRAPBOOK, a feature I must have....enough said.

Wevah · Jun 17, 2002, 11:28 AM

Ummm...not *quite* the scrapbook, but: File -> Save Page As... -> Choose "Web Page, Complete" -> Save

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 11:35 AM

Yeah, that is no good...why would I want to fish for a file on HD and then wait for it to open via the browser? That's why Scrapbook is so nice to have, it's right there and instant within the program.

gorgonzola · Jun 17, 2002, 11:44 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Wevah:
Ummm...not *quite* the scrapbook, but: File -> Save Page As... -> Choose "Web Page, Complete" -> Save<hr /></blockquote>Also, the nice thing about the scrapbook feature is that it lets you "pause" in the middle of a form, and return to it later. You can't get that by saving a file to disk.

Just setting the record straight. IE has problems, but it has some nice stuff, too.

Gul Banana · Jun 17, 2002, 11:47 AM

I don't even know what the scrapbook IS. It's been a while since I saw a copy of IE... could somebody please enlighten me?

-Q- · Jun 17, 2002, 11:48 AM

The website has been updated here: <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/ie/ie_main.asp?embFName=get.asp&contonly=1" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/ie/ie_main.asp?embFName=get.asp&contonly=1</a>

But there's still no file...

[ 06-17-2002, 11:48 AM: Message edited by: -Q- ]

Jerommeke · Jun 17, 2002, 11:53 AM

the download link overthere is dead

and software update states nothing

I guess we'll have to wait

[ 06-17-2002, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Jerommeke ]

SMacTech · Jun 17, 2002, 11:55 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Sophus:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by tinrib:
wow this update rocks. This seriously beats the PANTS off mozilla!!! I thought I would never use IE again. It just reclaimed the top spot in my book. LOVE the new 'hidden features'

<hr /></blockquote>agree! Very good update. Still no tabbed browsing. Still trouble with some CSS. But a good update <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>So Sophus, where in the world did you download it from, vaporware.com?

Well, it is there now! Patience is a virtue I have never known.
But the link is dead. Way to go m$.

[ 06-17-2002, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: SMacTech ]

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 11:55 AM

Gul Banana:

As taken from the MacTopia web-site...

"Internet Scrapbook
Collect Web pages, such as news articles and e-commerce receipts, for future reference. The Internet Scrapbook provides a snapshot in time, so even if a Web page changes, you still have a record of the page."

I use it for receipts all the time, why would I print out a page (as they state you should do for record keeping) when I can simply hit a button and have that page saved forever, no matter what. It literally takes a picture of your screen and dates it with the time and whatnot from when you were there. It rocks!

KidRed · Jun 17, 2002, 11:55 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gul Banana:
I don't even know what the scrapbook IS. It's been a while since I saw a copy of IE... could somebody please enlighten me?<hr /></blockquote>It's like a freeze frame of a web page. This is better then bookmarks because the page will not be refreshed or updated reguardless how long you wait to go back to it. I use this for receipts after purchasing something, so I have all the order info, #s etc without having to print it. Also, these are easier to manage then bookmarks. So order forms, print page receipts, anything that you want frozen that would otherwise be a dynamic page and therefore inaccessable in the future this is great for.

v0id7 · Jun 17, 2002, 12:07 PM

wow, you guys are really impatient

dr. zoidberg · Jun 17, 2002, 12:07 PM

"Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0126'

Include file not found

/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp, line 35

The include file '/mac/download/rightcol_download_OTD.asp' was not found. "

you�ll see, in a few minutes it�s up there

Millennium · Jun 17, 2002, 12:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KidRed:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gul Banana:
I don't even know what the scrapbook IS. It's been a while since I saw a copy of IE... could somebody please enlighten me?<hr /></blockquote>It's like a freeze frame of a web page. This is better then bookmarks because the page will not be refreshed or updated reguardless how long you wait to go back to it. I use this for receipts after purchasing something, so I have all the order info, #s etc without having to print it. Also, these are easier to manage then bookmarks. So order forms, print page receipts, anything that you want frozen that would otherwise be a dynamic page and therefore inaccessable in the future this is great for.<hr /></blockquote>Um... why not just save the page? It doesn't take up any more disk space than the Scrapbook would, and you can organize them better.

Yeah, you don't get to "pause" a form in the middle, but I'm not sure that really makes all that much of a difference. Most forms I can think of, except perhaps for messageboard postings (which I use a text editor for if I don't think I'm going to be able to write it in one session), ask for information that I'm not likely to forget.

dark3lf · Jun 17, 2002, 12:14 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by dr. zoidberg:
"Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0126'

Include file not found

/mac/DOWNLOAD/IE/ie52.asp, line 35

The include file '/mac/download/rightcol_download_OTD.asp' was not found. "

you�ll see, in a few minutes it�s up there

<hr /></blockquote>Holy ****, way to investigate, hehe!

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2002, 12:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Millennium:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by KidRed:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Gul Banana:
I don't even know what the scrapbook IS. It's been a while since I saw a copy of IE... could somebody please enlighten me?<hr /></blockquote>It's like a freeze frame of a web page. This is better then bookmarks because the page will not be refreshed or updated reguardless how long you wait to go back to it. I use this for receipts after purchasing something, so I have all the order info, #s etc without having to print it. Also, these are easier to manage then bookmarks. So order forms, print page receipts, anything that you want frozen that would otherwise be a dynamic page and therefore inaccessable in the future this is great for.<hr /></blockquote>Um... why not just save the page? It doesn't take up any more disk space than the Scrapbook would, and you can organize them better.

Yeah, you don't get to "pause" a form in the middle, but I'm not sure that really makes all that much of a difference. Most forms I can think of, except perhaps for messageboard postings (which I use a text editor for if I don't think I'm going to be able to write it in one session), ask for information that I'm not likely to forget.<hr /></blockquote>If you've used it before it's pretty clear that the scrapbook is much more useful and convenient than saving a page. My scrapbook is full of mapquest search results, forms for billing and submitting info, as well as receipts for payments. Simply saving would get you an error file on many of these.

In short, saving does not compare to scrapbook functionality.

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2002, 12:24 PM

just got it!

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 17, 2002, 12:25 PM

Yes! It's up!

dr. zoidberg · Jun 17, 2002, 12:27 PM

hehe.... it�s up! go get it!

Vision · Jun 17, 2002, 12:28 PM

Direct link:
<a href="http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie5mac/APP/5.2/MacOS/EN-US/InternetExplorer52.bin" target="_blank">http://download.microsoft.com/download/ie5mac/APP/5.2/MacOS/EN-US/InternetExplorer52.bin</a>

xi_hyperon · Jun 17, 2002, 12:31 PM

It updated a crapload of files, but the only thing immediately apparent is the Quartz text smoothing. Was hoping for the option to eliminate pop-unders, but no such luck.

barbarian · Jun 17, 2002, 12:37 PM

just downloaded it and am running it... no obvious changes so far except the text rendering...

BRussell · Jun 17, 2002, 12:37 PM

The only difference I notice between 5.2 and 5.1 + Silk is that my home page is now MSN.

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 12:39 PM

Um, still get the beachball on ".gif" files half the time in the MacNN forum pages...damn, I was hoping this update would fix that!

Rex · Jun 17, 2002, 12:39 PM

Nothing seems changed except for text rendering, which was already there if you use Silk...
Question: now that Quartz rendering is built in, do I have to add IE to the list of disabled items?

Mrjinglesusa · Jun 17, 2002, 12:39 PM

Wow! This thing is FAST!

Ken_F2 · Jun 17, 2002, 12:45 PM

Small improvement in browing speed further distances IE from Mozilla.

Wevah · Jun 17, 2002, 12:52 PM

I'm rather disappointed...still no Array.pop()/Array.push()/etc.

Oh well.

Colonel Panic · Jun 17, 2002, 01:00 PM

Very interesting that this update is NOT available under software update. I guess the buddy-buddy days are that much closer to over. I figured that since the agreement lasts through to August (I believe) every pre-Jaguar would come via software update.

DanMacMan · Jun 17, 2002, 01:01 PM

It still doesn't use quartz in these boards or in the address bar field. It seems a little faster, but I'll stick w/ Omni.

starman · Jun 17, 2002, 01:02 PM

.gif issue aside, I'd like to know if this version is more or less stable on macnn.com for some of you. I have to force-quit IE 5 on macnn.com at least once a week.

Mike

cenutrio · Jun 17, 2002, 01:04 PM

After surfing for 20 minutes trough my rutine web sites I can affirm that ie 5.2 is the fastest browser available. It seems that page rendering, start up time, and downloading is faster. Go for it!

gorickey · Jun 17, 2002, 01:05 PM

Force quit once a week? Consider yourself lucky, I have to about 5 times a day...minimum. It's always the .gif issue for me, so that it hard to put aside, everything else on MacNN has been good for me in IE 5.1 or 5.2

Colonel Panic · Jun 17, 2002, 01:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by DanMacMan:
It still doesn't use quartz in these boards or in the address bar field. It seems a little faster, but I'll stick w/ Omni.<hr /></blockquote>that's just a function of text size. it doesn't smooth under 8pt, I believe. personally, i prefer that.