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ironknee · Jun 28, 2003, 10:59 PM

An app that you know a lot of keyboard short cuts and can get around like a glove?

For me, it's quark 4.x as much as i resent their lazyness for updates...then adobe illustrator

how about you?

:XI: · Jun 28, 2003, 11:02 PM

Finder.
Safari.
I try and remember them for photoshop, but they don't stick. I know a few though.

MikeM33 · Jun 28, 2003, 11:21 PM

Quark 3-5, I haven't used 6 yet, but I can't imagine it's much different in terms of keyboard shortcuts. I've probably been using Quark longer than anything else so I know virtually every shortcut for this app. and yet there's still ones I haven't gotten down yet. Little things like "Baseline shift" and so-on.

InDesign when it's in "Quark keyboard shortcut" mode.

Then it's a tie between Photoshop and Illustrator. Both app's have similar shortcuts, but because I started out using Quark it's a tad confusing whenever I have to work in other app's.

MikeM

Cipher13 · Jun 29, 2003, 12:03 AM

OS9 Finder, OSX Finder, Photoshop, probably. And ResEdit

DeathMan · Jun 29, 2003, 01:36 AM

Photoshop by far, since there are so many. Illustrator next. Then I don't know... BBEdit?

NoteStomper · Jun 29, 2003, 01:40 AM

Photoshop, closely followed by cinema 4d.

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 29, 2003, 02:16 AM

Quake.

OS X/9 Finder.
LaunchBar.

11011001 · Jun 29, 2003, 02:32 AM

Emacs.. oh man.. I know it well. Never, ever have to touch the mouse, not even the arrow keys.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jun 29, 2003, 02:32 AM

Photoshop is my bitch!

thePurpleGiant · Jun 29, 2003, 02:37 AM

Mac OS 9 Finder
Flash
Clarisworks 5 (still better than AppleWorks 6 IMO)
Graphic Converter

gadster · Jun 29, 2003, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by MikeM33:
Quark 3-5, I haven't used 6 yet, but I can't imagine it's much different in terms of keyboard shortcuts. I've probably been using Quark longer than anything else so I know virtually every shortcut for this app. and yet there's still ones I haven't gotten down yet. Little things like "Baseline shift" and so-on.

InDesign when it's in "Quark keyboard shortcut" mode.

Then it's a tie between Photoshop and Illustrator. Both app's have similar shortcuts, but because I started out using Quark it's a tad confusing whenever I have to work in other app's.

MikeM

I use a lot of quark too:

Baseline shift is comm-opt-shift (- or =).
Just above comm-[opt]-shift ([ or ]) for tracking,
Or comm-[opt]-shift (; or ') for leading,
Or comm-[opt]-shift (, or .) for size.

Best Quark shortcut I know is comm-\ for indent here. Also click then com-opt-shift click to copy par style to target par.

Oh, and comm-(hyphen) for discretionery hyphen.

And I have the same problem switching from Adobe apps to QXP, it gets very confusing for teh figners.

Enjoy.

tikki · Jun 29, 2003, 09:24 AM

vi

chris v · Jun 29, 2003, 09:31 AM

Photoshop. I've got actions written for sub-menu items I use all the time (image size, canvas size, select by color range, unsharp mask, convert to cmyk profile, etc.) with assigned f-key shortcuts, and I've got everything else I need just about memorized. I'm left-handed, although I learned to use a mouse with my right hand, so I've got the track ball on the right, and a wacom tablet on the left. Pretty speedy set-up.

CV

gadster · Jun 29, 2003, 09:49 AM

Originally posted by chris v:
Photoshop. I've got actions written for sub-menu items I use all the time (image size, canvas size, select by color range, unsharp mask, convert to cmyk profile, etc.) with assigned f-key shortcuts, and I've got everything else I need just about memorized. I'm left-handed, although I learned to use a mouse with my right hand, so I've got the track ball on the right, and a wacom tablet on the left. Pretty speedy set-up.

CV

That's something I have promised myself i'd do, but never have (esp image size: FFS!) I am left handed too, but use a mac right handed (guitar too). tend to use a lot of droplets more than actions, though. The tablet idea sounds good. How do you deal with comm, opt, shift, etc, just curious.

ARENA · Jun 29, 2003, 10:47 AM

I feel at home in Photoshop...though i haven't created the actions for the most used submenu items. I should do it soon.

iXavier · Jun 29, 2003, 10:49 AM

Finder (X, not 9.2.2--Did OS9 even have keyboard shortcuts?)
Safari
Camino
AOL Instant Messenger

x.

jckalen · Jun 29, 2003, 11:01 AM

pong

mike one · Jun 29, 2003, 11:38 AM

finder 9/X
photoshop
word...keynote
safari...explorer...omni
chemdraw
does terminal count? no....learning windowmaker slowly...

todrain · Jun 29, 2003, 12:00 PM

Excel and Return to Castle Wolfenstein

MacGorilla · Jun 29, 2003, 12:16 PM

MS Word, LaunchBar.

MindFad · Jun 29, 2003, 12:19 PM

Definitely Photoshop, for sure. And the Finder (OS 9 and X).

chris v · Jun 29, 2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by gadster:
That's something I have promised myself i'd do, but never have (esp image size: FFS!) I am left handed too, but use a mac right handed (guitar too). tend to use a lot of droplets more than actions, though. The tablet idea sounds good. How do you deal with comm, opt, shift, etc, just curious.

I pretty much just use the tablet for painting tools and detailed selections, like lasso. I use my right hand for shift (add to selection) option (subtract from selection) etc. when I'm using the tablet, and my left hand for same when I'm using the trackball with my right.

CV

The Placid Casual · Jun 29, 2003, 12:52 PM

For me it has to be Indesign. I like Quark as well, but it seems to have faded from my memory since I 'switched' to ID...

I also feel more than happy in the Terminal... I love the 'directness' of it.

willed · Jun 29, 2003, 01:06 PM

MS Word - Custom key commands for everything, plus auto correct for commonly used phrases (ie DHn for Deuteronomic Historian

Seriously!)

Safari - use it all the time

Zimphire · Jun 29, 2003, 01:27 PM

Photoshop, Illustrator, Quark,

The ones I was made to learn.

Or made myself learn.

Worst. Episode. Ever. · Jun 29, 2003, 03:39 PM

1. Photoshop (I almost never have to pull down menus anymore. Like Chris, I have F-keys assigned for the most important sub-commands.)

2. Quark or InDesign (Depends on which of the two I'm using the most on a given day.)

3. Illustrator.

4. Final Cut Pro. (Although I usually forget a lot of the key commands between projects.)

Gul Banana · Jun 29, 2003, 11:37 PM

BBEdit, Terminal, Proteus, the Finder (classic and modern).

funkboy · Jun 29, 2003, 11:46 PM

MetaCard

SeSawaya · Jun 29, 2003, 11:48 PM

Finale

Kenneth · Jun 29, 2003, 11:50 PM

Address Book
DVD Player
Finder

out of the three..
Address Book

Michael_Jackson · Jun 30, 2003, 01:02 AM

Dock
Clock
Stickies

sideus · Jun 30, 2003, 02:21 AM

Quake 3
Safari
Ircle
iChat
Mail

Cellery · Jun 30, 2003, 03:19 AM

Quark and Photoshop, plus a 5-button mouse makes things even easier.

Mac Zealot · Jun 30, 2003, 03:59 AM

Terminal in general. I know my way around it REALLY well ^_^

otherwise.. finder at times, sometimes otherwise but meh

philzilla · Jun 30, 2003, 05:24 AM

Adult Media Finder

anyone who said vi or terminal, is just trying to be a geek. i said "trying"

bamburg dunes · Jun 30, 2003, 05:32 AM

my phone.

Edit: sorry, the software that comes on the phone.

Gul Banana · Jun 30, 2003, 06:49 AM

Originally posted by philzilla:
Adult Media Finder

anyone who said vi or terminal, is just trying to be a geek. i said "trying"

This is the first time anybody has ever accused me of not being a geek, I think.

Apple Pro Underwear · Jun 30, 2003, 06:58 AM

Originally posted by philzilla:
Adult Media Finder

anyone who said vi or terminal, is just trying to be a geek. i said "trying"

what does it mean when they use a smiley face along with it?

i think it means they're riding a train on they homoghey express but that's just me

philzilla · Jun 30, 2003, 07:04 AM

Originally posted by Apple Pro Underwear:
i think it means they're riding a train on they homoghey express but that's just me

i always knew you were on that train

daimoni · 12:36 PM

.

philzilla · Jun 30, 2003, 07:30 AM

Originally posted by daimoni:
These days, I pretty much live in BBEdit and various unix apps which shall remain nameless because I don't want to be accused of trying to be a geek. Which I'm not.

hippy

daimoni · 12:56 PM

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calamar1 · Jun 30, 2003, 08:45 AM

1. Pro/ENGINEER. Okay, maybe that's cheating.
2. BBEdit.
3. Photoshop (Elements)
4. Myth II.

davesimondotcom · Jun 30, 2003, 10:31 AM

Proteus
GoLive
Photoshop
Illustrator
LiveMotion

I'd say Finder, but I still haven't gotten used to the New Window vs. New Folder command change.

Oh, and someone mentioned LaunchBar. That app rocks. And it's all about keyboard command. I launch all of the above apps via LaunchBar.

P.S. Yes, I do drink the tastey Adobe Kool-Aid.

DesignerTerp · Jun 30, 2003, 11:00 AM

I'd say Quark and Photoshop tied. I rawk those apps!

xi_hyperon · Jun 30, 2003, 11:09 AM

Photoshop, Safari, Word. OS X Finder too (yes, I am daft).

wulf · Jun 30, 2003, 12:04 PM

Carracho and BitTorr*a-HEM* ...I mean...Photoshop.

Gene Jockey · Jun 30, 2003, 01:55 PM

Hmm...

ClarisWorks 2.1

Mille Bornes

From when I was a kid. I still have all my old high school reports written with ClarisWorks. They're a fun read

--Josh

Brien · Jun 30, 2003, 02:16 PM

Photoshop + Menu Master
And Safari

JLFanboy · Jun 30, 2003, 02:45 PM

While I definitely use Photoshop as much as anyone here, I've never gotten too comfortable with the key commands. Something about the program makes me want the use the mouse for everything.

That being said, Final Cut Pro is my key command b'yatch. Easily the pro program I use the most. Gotta love the keyboard stickies.

As far as key commands in general, I've never been able to get comfortable with them, especially in the Finder. I see all these people zooming around the finder, never touching the mouse, and I think, "Wait, doesn't the UI look like it does because it's supposed to be used with a mouse?" That isn't to say that key commands are bad, not at all. They've just never gelled with me.