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placebo1969 · Nov 8, 2006, 01:53 PM

Looks like it. Hmm.

sek929 · Nov 8, 2006, 01:54 PM

Damn, we really needed him to severely underestimate another war.

art_director · Nov 8, 2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

Damn, we really needed him to severely underestimate another war.

Bwahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa,,,,,,,,,,,,

Dakar² · Nov 8, 2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by sek929

Damn, we really needed him to severely underestimate another war.

*All eyes turn to Iran*

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 02:01 PM

How exactly does it look like? Do you have any evidence to back this claim?

demograph68 · Nov 8, 2006, 02:02 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15622266/

could it be true?

The Left · Nov 8, 2006, 02:04 PM

he's gone... WOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!

next Bush & Cheney!

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by demograph68

GOP: Rumsfeld stepping down - Politics - MSNBC.com

could it be true?

Thanks for linking that.

Interesting enough, he didn't wait for the power shift to happen. I guess it would be embarrassing to be forced out as opposed to resigning.

BlueSky · Nov 8, 2006, 02:07 PM

Ha. Bush just confirmed it.

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by The Left

he's gone... WOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!

next Bush & Cheney!

Short of an impeachment, I don't see them going anywhere.

The Left · Nov 8, 2006, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Short of an impeachment, I don't see them going anywhere.

that is being worked on

davesimondotcom · Nov 8, 2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by The Left

he's gone... WOO HOOOO!!!!!!!!

next Bush & Cheney!

Two years, dude. Otherwise, get used to them.

placebo1969 · Nov 8, 2006, 02:10 PM

Why did you doubt me?

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by placebo1969

Why did you doubt me?

Until you have proof to back you claims, it's just your opinion. Nothing personal.

art_director · Nov 8, 2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Left

that is being worked on

Impeachment is the worst thing that could happen. Sure, I'd love to see it but it would get America no where. I hope the Democrats leave that sort of political dog and pony show to the Republicans. It's a waste of time and taxpayer money. Not to mention, they could be improving the state of our nation rather than settling scores.

Let me go further. If the Democrats do attempt to impeach the shrub, I will actively help their opponents in the next election up to and including providing my professional services pro bono. I want to see politicians get back to representing the people, not their selective bullshiit.

placebo1969 · Nov 8, 2006, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Until you have proof to back you claims, it's just your opinion. Nothing personal.

I know.

But my opinions are as good as fact.

The Left · Nov 8, 2006, 02:26 PM

Bush lied and should and WILL be held accountable.

art_director · Nov 8, 2006, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by The Left

Bush lied and should and WILL be held accountable.

The nation saw what a distraction impeachment was with Clinton. In the end, what did it get us? Nada.

Our elected officials should keep their eye on the ball. That's how the Democrats won this election. I hope they remember that fact. Of course, power corrupts so they probably won't.

To me a more likely solution would be for him to face criminal charges should the evidence exist. Impeachment is a joke. But that all depends upon what your definition of is is.

Dave Brasgalla · Nov 8, 2006, 02:32 PM

Bye! *waves*

Ron Goodman · Nov 8, 2006, 02:40 PM

The interesting thing to watch will be whether Bush attempts to govern more toward the center, as he did in Texas. He's played exclusively to his base for the last six years, but he doesn't have to run again, and that strategy finally blew up in his face yesterday. Now he's got to be worried about salvaging some kind of success to leave as a legacy.

Zeeb · Nov 8, 2006, 02:46 PM

good riddance to that cantankerous old f****r.

turtle777 · Nov 8, 2006, 02:47 PM

So, this man is gonna protect us from terrorrorists (sic!) ?

-t

The Left · Nov 8, 2006, 02:51 PM

should be John Murtha, not this Gates guy

OreoCookie · Nov 8, 2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

So, this man is gonna protect us from terrorrorists (sic!) ?

-t

He looks like a nice man …

BlueSky · Nov 8, 2006, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

So, this man is gonna protect us from terrorrorists (sic!) ?

-t

Would you prefer this guy?

hyteckit · Nov 8, 2006, 02:57 PM

Seacrest Out.

:dragonflypro: · Nov 8, 2006, 03:31 PM

As easy as it would be to jump on a Rumsfeld hate wagon or count this as some sort of victory to those disdainful of Bush… I'd not get so glib.

While relatively unexpected, it is not at all uncommon for an event like this.

Additionally, don't mistake this for any change in the administrations policy. As the newly nominated SOD you can bet his views are of Bush's.

There can be dancing in the streets and Rumsfeld effigies… but it is only an 'emotional' win.

How does it go? The SOD is dead, long live the SOD.

Dakar² · Nov 8, 2006, 03:32 PM

I'm not sure why Rumsfeld had to leave now that the Democrats have control of the House, let alone immediately.

ironknee · Nov 8, 2006, 03:34 PM

lolololol!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's early christmas

smacintush · Nov 8, 2006, 03:49 PM

Rush says he heard Bolton is next.

Rush is totally pissed at Bush now, how funny.

houstonmacbro · Nov 8, 2006, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by placebo1969

Looks like it. Hmm.

yeah, it's all over cnn.com (that bastion of liberalism!), but here's an other link: rumsfeld resigning

ironknee · Nov 8, 2006, 03:57 PM

fox news is fun to watch...they hardly mention the elections

houstonmacbro · Nov 8, 2006, 03:59 PM

yeah, just like the casualties of the war. on fox, they think that if they do not mention it, it will just not exist ... or better yet, just go away altogether.

olePigeon · Nov 8, 2006, 04:04 PM

If Bush & Chaney were both ousted, then Nancy Pelosi would become president, wouldn't she?

houstonmacbro · Nov 8, 2006, 04:05 PM

i thought the chain of succession fell somewhere in the senate first and then the house...?

Dork. · Nov 8, 2006, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dakar²

I'm not sure why Rumsfeld had to leave now that the Democrats have control of the House, let alone immediately.

The new Congress doesn't get seated until January. By resigning now, his replacement can be confirmed by the current, Republican-controlled Senate. CNN just called Montana for the Democrat, so the best the Republicans can hope for in the new Senate is a 50/50 split.

smacintush · Nov 8, 2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by houstonmacbro

i thought the chain of succession fell somewhere in the senate first and then the house...?

No, he's got it right.

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by smacintush

Rush says he heard Bolton is next.

Rush is totally pissed at Bush now, how funny.

Dork. · Nov 8, 2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by houstonmacbro

i thought the chain of succession fell somewhere in the senate first and then the house...?

Nope, House Speaker trumps the President (pro tempore) of the Senate.

The President (pro tempore) of the Senate is not the Senate majority leader, he is usually the member of the majority party with the most seniority. It it currently Ted "The Internet is made of tubes" Stevens.

United States presidential line of succession - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dakar² · Nov 8, 2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

The new Congress doesn't get seated until January. By resigning now, his replacement can be confirmed by the current, Republican-controlled Senate. CNN just called Montana for the Democrat, so the best the Republicans can hope for in the new Senate is a 50/50 split.

Oh, this makes loads more sense now.

Edit: Well outside of the fact that he's actually resigning.

Rumor · Nov 8, 2006, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

If Bush & Chaney were both ousted, then Nancy Pelosi would become president, wouldn't she?

A devious way to put a woman in the Preznit seat, isn't it?

olePigeon · Nov 8, 2006, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

A devious way to put a woman in the Preznit seat, isn't it?

It'd only be for two years. I think it's a great opportunity to see how she would do.

houstonmacbro · Nov 8, 2006, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

yeah, i saw his note too ... amazing that anyone still listens to his lying behind.

talk about FLIP FLOP.

houstonmacbro · Nov 8, 2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Rumor

A devious way to put a woman in the Preznit seat, isn't it?

devilish. simply devilish.

voodoo · Nov 8, 2006, 04:32 PM

Well.. thanks for entertaining 6 years Rummy! You sure showed us what real sleeze is like. Bye-oh! :waves:

V

tie · Nov 8, 2006, 06:12 PM

Bush flip flops, and Rumsfeld cuts and runs.

I think it is a bit crazy that Bush is making his decisions on the Iraq war based only on political considerations. If Rumsfeld was the wrong guy for the job last week or last year, he should have resigned then. But I guess Republican votes are more important than the lives of our soldiers.

marden · Nov 8, 2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by tie

Bush flip flops, and Rumsfeld cuts and runs.

I think it is a bit crazy that Bush is making his decisions on the Iraq war based only on political considerations. If Rumsfeld was the wrong guy for the job last week or last year, he should have resigned then. But I guess Republican votes are more important than the lives of our soldiers.

I expect one of you liberal posters to address his misunderstanding on this.

art_director · Nov 8, 2006, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by marden

I expect one of you liberal posters to address his misunderstanding on this.

Nothing to address, he called it like it is.

So, back to President Pelosi. What a frightening thought. But then, look at what we have now.

Who was that fat, pedophile-protecting guy from Illinois who had Pelosi's job again?

tie · Nov 8, 2006, 06:25 PM

But I'm right, aren't I? "Stay the course" is a good strategy, but only until the day after the election? What an odd coincidence. 103 Americans died in Iraq in October.

invisibleX · Nov 8, 2006, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by tie

Bush flip flops, and Rumsfeld cuts and runs.

I think it is a bit crazy that Bush is making his decisions on the Iraq war based only on political considerations. If Rumsfeld was the wrong guy for the job last week or last year, he should have resigned then. But I guess Republican votes are more important than the lives of our soldiers.

You beat me to the cut and run line. And mine was way better.