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Yeah, Italy and speeding: go with the flow, that seems to be the rule there. I made quite a few Italians very angry by sticking to the speed limit at a construction site. It was on a smaller road in the countryside where they couldn't overtake me because of oncoming traffic. That might have been an excellent opportunity to learn more about the Italian culture of using colorful and imaginative swear words
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North-Central Atlantic has a similar "culture."

Source: Grew up watching my parents make lots of road trips in and out of New England for a decade.
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Apr 8, 2018, 10:19 PM
 
I was going to say something similar.

Roads have a “natural” speed. That’s what I usually go. I don’t really factor the actual speed limit into it.

On long trips I’ll go an unnatural speed.
     
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On one of these stretches, I police car catches up to me, blue lights flashing. I figure that he was stopping me from speeding, so as soon as the lane closure ends, I move over to the right lane. Police speeds right by. He just wanted to pass.
Yeah, I’ve also had the experience in a different country where we’re all speeding and the rental car (I.e. me) gets pulled over while the locals keep rushing on by. Got a $650 ticket for just trying to stop everyone else from riding my bumper, but guilty of the crime of wanting to return at some point in the future. Now I just do the speed limit and **** the locals...
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Apr 28, 2018, 03:15 PM
 
Any advice on driving on snow tires when it’s too warm?

I pushed it long enough I’m going to have to drive a few miles in the 60s (15-20C) to pick up my all-seasons and get to the shop.
     
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Apr 28, 2018, 04:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Any advice on driving on snow tires when it’s too warm?

I pushed it long enough I’m going to have to drive a few miles in the 60s (15-20C) to pick up my all-seasons and get to the shop.
It’s not a big problem.

The biggest issue is that your snow tires will wear down much faster at warm temperatures, because of the softer rubber compound.

Other than that, you are ok. The reverse (summer tires in cold temperatures) is far worse.

I, too, haven’t put on my summer (i.e. all season) tires.
Once I do, it will snow one more time. Guaranteed. Planning to make it all happen in the next week or two :-)

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The biggest issue is that your snow tires will wear down much faster at warm temperatures, because of the softer rubber compound.
Yes, AND a driver's braking ability is still compromised compared to an all-season on hot tarmac. So, if a high-speed driver needs to avoid an accident and hits the brakes, then the tire type could mean the difference between leaving a 6-inch space before the car in front vs. causing a 6-inch dent in said car.
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Apr 28, 2018, 09:18 PM
 
Luckily, this’ll all be street driving, and it’s congested enough around here side streets are faster, so I’ll have constant stop signs curbing my top speed.

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May 2, 2018, 10:29 AM
 
You're fine. If you get aggressive they might squawk a bit more but it's not a real issue. Summers went on last week for me.



My wife's summers are stored above a currently immobile car, so I need to get that thing going and out of the way so I can get her summers down. The summers for the BMW are also stored above a car that's semi-mobile, but since the BMW is the first immobile car, I'm not in a rush on that one.
     
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May 20, 2018, 04:54 PM
 
Just got the all seasons put on.

They didn’t rotate them.

Is the problem I didn’t ask, or that I need to start going to a new place?

Both?
     
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May 20, 2018, 05:09 PM
 
Why would they rotate tires they're just putting on? Install tires, let car down. Jack car back up, move new tires to different locations, drop car again. Normally I'd call that "padding the customer's bill".
     
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May 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
 
They're not new tires.
     
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May 20, 2018, 06:16 PM
 
are your tires marked, so they would know the position they were in at the end of last season?
     
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May 20, 2018, 07:08 PM
 
They were supposed to be, but AFAICT, they didn’t do that, even though I asked them to. Another reason I think this may be crap service.

That said, the spare is obviously new. Seems to me at the least that should have gone on.
     
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May 20, 2018, 07:48 PM
 
What's the difference in tread depth among the tires? I figure that dealerships will agree to within 1/32 anyway so they put the "better" pair where the load is higher.
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
Just got the all seasons put on.

They didn’t rotate them.

Is the problem I didn’t ask, or that I need to start going to a new place?

Both?
If you asked and they didn't do it, I'd be annoyed. If you didn't ask, I assume whoever they have throwing tires on work vans isn't paid to think critically and wouldn't be inclined to care.
     
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Originally Posted by And.reg View Post
What's the difference in tread depth among the tires? I figure that dealerships will agree to within 1/32 anyway so they put the "better" pair where the load is higher.
I don’t have a depth gauge. I can mainly tell because the unused spare didn’t get put into the rotation.
     
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If you asked and they didn't do it, I'd be annoyed. If you didn't ask, I assume whoever they have throwing tires on work vans isn't paid to think critically and wouldn't be inclined to care.
That makes sense. I was going to, but got short-circuited by the discussion turning to whether I wanted to just wait an hour and get it back rather than leave it overnight as originally planned.
     
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May 21, 2018, 01:17 PM
 
One more thing...

They couldn’t find the tool to drop the spare.

Last time it was used was when they put on the winters.

Seems to me like the mother****ers must have stolen it last time.
     
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
If you asked and they didn't do it, I'd be annoyed. If you didn't ask, I assume whoever they have throwing tires on work vans isn't paid to think critically and wouldn't be inclined to care.
Here’s my secondary question.

Am I at least correct in my thinking there is no situation involving a seasonal swap where the outgoing tires shouldn’t get labeled, and the incoming tires shouldn’t get rotated?

I mean, isn’t doing it any other way basically wrong?
     
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May 21, 2018, 02:05 PM
 
If I were doing it at home, I'd label the spare to make sure it's rotated into service (assuming a full-sized spare). Wouldn't bother with the others unless they showed uneven wear. I'd rely on randomness for them to end up in different locations each time.
     
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May 21, 2018, 02:12 PM
 
I would have been fine with randomness. I’m stuck with it anyway because they didn’t label them last season. Maybe some extra points for checking which pair is more inflated.

Just put the goddamn, full-size spare in the rotation
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
One more thing...

They couldn’t find the tool to drop the spare.

Last time it was used was when they put on the winters.

Seems to me like the mother****ers must have stolen it last time.
At the least, they’re not guilty of this.

But they are guilty of not realizing the tool was actually there.

Me too, but I feel I have the excuse of not working at a tire shop.
     
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Jun 6, 2018, 04:08 PM
 
Decided maybe their service wasn’t too bad, and went back to the same place.

Get the impression whoever didn’t find the tool the first time is gonna get a paddlin.
     
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Jun 6, 2018, 04:32 PM
 
Geez, just how long can one fuss over a tire job?
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Oh... I could fuss longer.
     
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Jun 6, 2018, 05:01 PM
 
Why not just create your own thread for fussing about Bob's Butthole Tire Shack or whatever they call themselves, so you can fuss all you want in there.
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Is this actually bothering you?
     
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Jun 6, 2018, 08:44 PM
 
Can't you share the thread? I don't want to have to get all Sophie's Choice about it.
     
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Jun 7, 2018, 08:39 AM
 
Nevermind, I'm dealing with some extremely serious family stress lately so just forget it
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Jun 7, 2018, 10:27 AM
 
Ha, I actually thought this was subego's thread to begin with.
     
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Sorry to hear Andreg. We could start a new thread just to cheer you up?
     
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Ha, I actually thought this was subego's thread to begin with.
They all are sooner or later.
     
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Nevermind, I'm dealing with some extremely serious family stress lately so just forget it
Sorry. That sucks.

If I’m torquing you off, I want to stop, so feel free to bring it up in the future.
     
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If I’m torquing you off, I want to stop, so feel free to bring it up in the future.
Well I'd hope someone is this thread is capable of proper torquing.
     
 
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