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Mar 14, 2006, 08:48 PM
 
I dunno if this has been discussed before in this forum but I couldn't help it. (some of you are just gonna get sick of my rantings) I just saw a pic of a new build of Vista and it had programs called "Gadgets". That is exactly the same as Widgets!! Also this new feature "Flip3D" is like Expose but isn't as good. The search logo is just reversed from OS X! I really hope Apple sues Microsuck for this.
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Mar 14, 2006, 08:52 PM
 
Get Over It.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 08:53 PM
 
Apple won't sue because they know they'll lose.
Also, Apple "stole" the idea from Konfabulator who stole the idea from blah, who stole the idea from foo... mini-applications are not a new idea.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 08:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by mduell
Apple won't sue because they know they'll lose.
Also, Apple "stole" the idea from Konfabulator who stole the idea from Apple who initially called it desk accessories.
Fixed.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
Get Over It.
I'm trying!!
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:05 PM
 
I wish they'd steal more features - like the core stability, security, ease of use, prettiness, etc., etc.. Then I could steal a copy and run it on cheapo homebrew hardware.
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
run it on cheapo homebrew hardware.
And there's the problem.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:17 PM
 
( Last edited by meelk; Mar 14, 2006 at 09:28 PM. )
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
Fixed.
I think your memory of System 6 and below is a bit fuzzy. Desk Accessories had no more in common with widgets than any other application. DAs were just normal applications with gimpy multitasking.
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Mar 14, 2006, 09:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I think your memory of System 6 and below is a bit fuzzy. Desk Accessories had no more in common with widgets than any other application. DAs were just normal applications with gimpy multitasking.
The idea and philosophy behind them was identical to today's widgets.
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 12:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
The idea and philosophy behind them was identical to today's widgets.
But Apple didn't really see a market for them until Konfabulator was doing well. Interesting.
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 12:12 AM
 
Shmeh.
I can't even bother reading the posts in this thread...
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:19 AM
 
Originally Posted by Thread Grader
thats some funny sh*t....... and yes velocity211 is beating a dead horse!!!... windows will always be behind OSX and lets face it bill has accuired ( ripped off ) everything from the start of windows.... Apple leads, windows follows it's the way thing should be.......
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:22 AM
 
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by meelk
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Mar 15, 2006, 02:06 AM
 
...because Apple is the first company to ever use a magnifying glass to signify searching...
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 05:24 AM
 
What an atrocity!
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Mar 15, 2006, 06:55 AM
 
Leopard, the fifth iteration of OSX will be years ahead of Vista when it finally starts shipping, so dont worry too much. Apple should hopefully release it before Vista. be ready for some major UI changes imo.

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Mar 15, 2006, 07:05 AM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I think your memory of System 6 and below is a bit fuzzy. Desk Accessories had no more in common with widgets than any other application. DAs were just normal applications with gimpy multitasking.
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Mar 15, 2006, 07:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
I wish they'd steal more features - like the core stability, security, ease of use, prettiness, etc., etc.. Then I could steal a copy and run it on cheapo homebrew hardware.


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Mar 15, 2006, 10:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by Velocity211
I dunno if this has been discussed before in this forum but I couldn't help it. (some of you are just gonna get sick of my rantings) I just saw a pic of a new build of Vista and it had programs called "Gadgets". That is exactly the same as Widgets!! Also this new feature "Flip3D" is like Expose but isn't as good. The search logo is just reversed from OS X! I really hope Apple sues Microsuck for this.
One could argue:

Gadgets, widgets whatever are ripoffs of stardocks desktopx, which was out before OS X and obviously out before vista. Expose could be said to be a ripoff of the 'cascade all windows' function in windows, and I'm sure a magnifying glass is pretty universal for meaning search, no matter what angle it's at.
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 11:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by mduell
Apple won't sue because they know they'll lose.
Also, Apple "stole" the idea from Konfabulator who stole the idea from blah, who stole the idea from foo... mini-applications are not a new idea.
While you can't claim that Apple didn't rethink the idea after Konfabulator, the "widgets" were already apart of NeXT, which Apple bought. I'm sure they saw Konfabulator and thought, "Hey, we had something like that in NeXT. We should bring it back."
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:03 PM
 
I still give Vista a week before the first major security update.
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:11 PM
 
I bet they don't steal the "feature" where OS X redates all of your files when you copy them.
     
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Mar 15, 2006, 01:43 PM
 
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My thoughts exactly.
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