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phoenixboy70
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Jun 28, 2004, 01:33 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
And you perverts should be ashamed! You're putting treason in the same ballpark as a movie about Christianity! I'm a Jew and I can say that!
LOLOLOL!!!!!!

wait, lemme' guess, you're a conservative, social darwinist and capitalist as well, am i right?

next time, why don't you just post that you're a neonazicon...it will spare us the agony of having to read through your crap.

     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:13 PM
 
Now then you little preteen uneducated fag, what is your knowledge of Nazi Germany?
Let's go down the history of the awful National SOCIALISTS.
1. Madam Helena Blavadsky travels to Tibet and claims that she was inducted into some strange spiritual pact.
2. When she returned, she wrote of her experience. She claimed that she had a spiritual enlightenment. She said that of all "sacred runes", the Swastika was the most powerful.
3. Guedo von List (spelling) took Blavadsky's words further. He believed that there were 7 root races, including the Lemurians, the Atlantans, etc. The 5th was the Aryans, the Teutonic race. The Aryans "have roots in Tibet" or something like that. He also believed in Norse lore about Thor and Valhalla. He believed that the Aryans were once a race capable of telekinesis and things of that nature. But their blood is not pure now because they crossbreed with people like the Jews and blacks.
4. The ideals of List (spelling) were praised in the German community. Especially by the Germans under the slavs, I believe. Could be wrong. Anyway, the aristocrats feared the spread of democracy and capitalism throught the world, which would undermine their place in society. They had a nostalgia for the Earth. They were alienated from Mother Earth. They need to go back to their roots in druidic rituals and paganism. There were many societies devoted to the teachings of List (spelling). Cults, if you will. They practiced Medieval ****, basically. Those ideas became popular in Germany aswell, and were famous in the meanings of the operas of Wagner (Vag-ner).
5. The teachings became even more popular in World War I, where the German troops accepted pagan worship of amulets and ankhs. Swastika was most popular. When the treaty of Versailles came around, the German people were PO'd beyond imagination. They blamed the Jews, democrats, and capitalists.
6. The Weimar "republic" (he was a socialist) was a degenerate society. But he handed it off to Hitler, who thought more degeneracy would cure degeneracy.
7. Hitler was a Christian and Jew hating-Socialist. He loved Wagner and List. He was a big fan. He believed in the alienation of the Germans with their spiritual roots. Himmler was a HUGE fan of that ****. He believed that morality was a false construct and that capitalism was terrible.
I saw a real documentary on National Socialism. It was like the "Occult History of the Nazis" by some Canadains. Very good. And a book called "Modern Fascism: The Threat to the Judeo-Christian Worldview" by Gene Edward Vieth was remarkable.

Epilouge: A bunch of stupid KKK men formed the Bound (spelling) leader thought Hitler was a Christian, and he wasn't, and came back and preached a false form of Christianity. The sheets are off, the brown is in

If you listen to alot of erudite college professors talk like that about capitalism and Christianity and Religion and Judiasm being bad. The talk about false constructs and **** like that.

If you listen, you'll learn the Nazi's hated Jews, like me, and capitalists, like me, and democrats (democracy, not party), like me.

Now then, go open some books and do some research before you call someone a Nazi.
Conservatism has nothing to do with Socialism. Conservatives are moral men in favor of (generally) free market economics with limited government intervention into the lives of men. Liberals want to redistribute the work of the rich onto the poor.

Read something!
And the Displays and Tiger news look interesting. !!!!

Oh my God, you are a fag! Look at your sig! Anarchist FAQ? Who raises you? My God! You must like punk bands who play cardboard instruments like Anti-Flag! What trash these Communists put up. Wow. You're one of those Mercedes Anarchists, the middle class white boys who act like they have an once of power and believe there is going to be a 1917-esque equivalent revolution in America. AHAHAHAHAHA! Rage Against the Machine an awesome band! Ahahahaha! Wow. Wow. Do your parents give you this? My dad died fighting communism. Your parents support it! What a loser. And are you a goth? Heh.
Green Party? Eco-Fascists? Pacifism? German America-Relations. The Nazi Party looks far more relevant to you than me. To be nice, Rammstein is a fairly decent band.
( Last edited by Drifter; Jun 28, 2004 at 02:25 PM. )
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:32 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Now then, go open some books and do some research before you call someone a Nazi.
Conservatism has nothing to do with Socialism. Conservatives are moral men in favor of (generally) free market economics with limited government intervention into the lives of men. Liberals want to redistribute the work of the rich onto the poor.
The contradictions in this post are so heinous it's almost funny.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:35 PM
 
Conservatives are alot more devout that Liberals. Alot.
Conservatives are in favor of relatively laze fair policies.
What's you're evidence of otherwise? Reagan, the conservatives' favorite president, loved all of those things and believed that the worker should keep the fruits of his labor, not spend it on funding for an outhouse in Iowa.
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Communism tastes like chicken.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:41 PM
 
Laze fair? Is this guy for real?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:41 PM
 
This thread is like masturbation, but with out the pay off.

Seven pages in, and the name calling has reached new heights.

Wow.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:45 PM
 
Yeah, I'm for real. I want the government to keep of me as much as possible. Government makes roads and finds military. Not most of the other crap.
And Mikey Moore is the exact opposite. He is a fact twisting moron. He is a communist who dupes people into his thinking by putting things in a form like this:
truth truth truth truth trut "…quasi-truth…" truth truth truth truth.
You need the bug picture of the info to believe something and make decisions.

Apple WWDC page update!
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:50 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Yeah, I'm for real. I want the government to keep of me as much as possible. Government makes roads and finds military. Not most of the other crap.
And Mikey Moore is the exact opposite. He is a fact twisting moron. He is a communist who dupes people into his thinking by putting things in a form like this:
truth truth truth truth trut "…quasi-truth…" truth truth truth truth.
You need the bug picture of the info to believe something and make decisions.

Apple WWDC page update!
You still have yet to refute a single fact presented in F9/11. I do hope you saw it, BTW...you wouldn't be commenting on it if you hadn't...RIIIIIIIGHT?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:51 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Now then you little preteen uneducated fag, what is your knowledge of Nazi Germany?
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:54 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Yeah, I'm for real. I want the government to keep of me as much as possible. Government makes roads and finds military. Not most of the other crap.
Then I'd assume you realize that 'laze fair' is an incorrect spelling. Not to be a spelling nazi, but I mean, come on... Anyway, why stop there -- why not privatize everything?

And Mikey Moore is the exact opposite. He is a fact twisting moron. He is a communist who dupes people into his thinking by putting things in a form like this:
truth truth truth truth trut "…quasi-truth…" truth truth truth truth.
You need the bug picture of the info to believe something and make decisions.
It's just a movie.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:54 PM
 
Either you're a good crappy google searcher or an awful Photoshop user.
Now, you're real rebuttal, please.
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phoenixboy70
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Jun 28, 2004, 02:56 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Conservatives are alot more devout that Liberals. Alot.
Conservatives are in favor of relatively laze fair policies.
i think you meant "lazy" fair....




bwahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

YOU SUCK!
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:01 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
?
You believe there is some vast right wing conspiracy in cahoots with big oil for world domination, and want a police state to surveil the denizens of the country?
They will believe anything that goes toward their narrow view. Don't underestimate the power of political zealotry.

Just look at all the Mooreons that support the guy.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:01 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
Either you're a good crappy google searcher or an awful Photoshop user.
Now, you're real rebuttal, please.
you're not even worth replying to. i'm sure you suck at photoshop as well. you don't know the first fu<king thing about history, or english for that matter.

why don't you sell your copy of of ps on ebay and get yourself hooked on phonics instead. god knows you need it.

     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
They will believe anything that goes toward their narrow view. Don't underestimate the power of political zealotry.

Just look at all the Mooreons that support the guy.
Did you see the movie yet, Zimph? Or is that tonight?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
They will believe anything that goes toward their narrow view. Don't underestimate the power of political zealotry.
is that "drifter" guy in any way related to you? sure seems like it...

btw, nice sig.

     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
that is soooooo weak.

i am sure the judges at the cannes filmfestival don't know anyhting about movies...

Yes I am afraid cannes is a joke.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
They will believe anything that goes toward their narrow view. Don't underestimate the power of political zealotry.

Just look at all the Mooreons that support the guy.
Zimphire I think its time for the dancing lock to show up!

     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:05 PM
 
Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
is that "drifter" guy in any way related to you? sure seems like it...
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:05 PM
 
Originally posted by MOTHERWELL:
Zimphire I think its time for the dancing lock to show up!

Why? The Mooreons will just start another thread praising the idiot.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:07 PM
 
I'm sorry, wrong spelling. I was never good at spelling French words.
Oh well.
"Lazy"...Well then. Would you like to go look at the bums who are still kept in their current situation because they're able to suck off of a corrupt welfare and food stamp system?
What is the purpose of government? To defend the country and promote the general welfare. Not welfare.
Why stop where you little Communists want to go? Why not nationalize the world and destroy the economy and the lives of millions?
Government is an inefficient beauracracy (spelling). It is the bane of every tax payer that pays for the stupidest pork barrel crap. It makes the rich suffer for running a business. It punishes the successful and rewards the bums who do nothing but light up and chug beer.

It is not a movie. It is propaganda. The bad kind.

Can anyone answer my question? Why are social outcasts, communists, and rich elitist wannabe revolutionaries drawn to the internet.
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:09 PM
 
Hey, Drifter...still don't care to refute any facts presented in F9/11?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:13 PM
 
So that makes you an anti-American, communist, Atheist Jew hater, PS hater, and a fan of punk bands. Wow.
What a little anti-Semite. Do your parents shovel this crap down your throat, or do they let you do anything you want?
Or I'll act like this little Pheonix kid.

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[Edit] Oh I'd love too, if there were any to "cite".
( Last edited by Demonhood; Jun 28, 2004 at 05:36 PM. )
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
     
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9 OUT OF 10 CRITICS FOR DAILY PAPERS BACK 'FAHRENHEIT'

They like Mike. While the country as a whole appears split, along political lines, over the controversial Michael Moore documentary, "Fahrenheit 9/11," movie reviewers at U.S. daily newspapers are not.

An E&P survey of 63 daily papers that ran reviews, in "red" and "blue" states alike, finds that 56 gave the film a positive nod, with only seven abstaining, an almost 90% favorable rating.
     
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Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
Exactly.
     
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My, aren't you the little prepubescent little boy?
A dancing Star Trek dude. Shatner?

What paper? NYT? Ha!
And besides, you're going to listen to a newspaper? It's like the word form of the Crescent News Network, CNN.
Another interesting poll stated that "only 7% of the journalists voted for Bush."
UC Berkley had 9%. And Berkley is one of the most, if not the most, liberal Socialist cell pool called college in the country. Very biased, no?
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Originally posted by Drifter:
My, aren't you the little prepubescent little boy?
A dancing Star Trek dude. Shatner?
Still no word on whether you're going to refute any of the facts in F911?
     
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Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
Hey, do you have stairs in your house?
     
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Originally posted by zachs:
Still no word on whether you're going to refute any of the facts in F911?
I think many have already. Or did you ignore those?
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:21 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
So that makes you an anti-American, communist, Atheist Jew hater, PS hater, and a fan of punk bands. Wow.
DUDE! this is it!! you can call me a commie, anti-american, atheist whatever you want...BUT calling me a ps hater!!!! OMFG!!! i'll have to report you to the mods...oh wait, i'm sure zimph did that already...

     
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From previous post:

I'd post some facts if there were any to cite.

What are we talking about. Moore's bogus talking points? That stupid part with the ice cream truck where he read a few of several hundred pages of the Patriot Act? Full picture, right Mikey? And how much ice cream do you think he ate?
And the part where he followed around a woman who's son died in Iraq? Tragedy for her, great footage for his movie he tries to sell. And saying only stupid black people go in the military? NACCP, where are you?

Isn't it ironic that the Communist uses capitalism to get his message across. He hates the system that he uses and made him rich. Odd, is it not?

Making fun of the retarded. How…adult. Now, care to use words?
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:25 PM
 
Originally posted by Zimphire:
I think many have already. Or did you ignore those?
All the arguments I've seen "disproving" the facts are countered here.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Drifter:
From previous post:

I'd post some facts if there were any to cite.

What are we talking about. Moore's bogus talking points? That stupid part with the ice cream truck where he read a few of several hundred pages of the Patriot Act? Full picture, right Mikey? And how much ice cream do you think he ate?
And the part where he followed around a woman who's son died in Iraq? Tragedy for her, great footage for his movie he tries to sell. And saying only stupid black people go in the military? NACCP, where are you?

Isn't it ironic that the Communist uses capitalism to get his message across. He hates the system that he uses and made him rich. Odd, is it not?

Making fun of the retarded. How…adult. Now, care to use words?
So disprove the "talking points" then.
     
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From his website…? What's he going to say?
"No, I was lying about this part. I used those people's tragedy to secure by money and become more famous. I also didn't read the whole passage in the ice cream scene. I skipped over some statistics in a couple parts too. I'm not really sorry."

What would he say?

[Edit] That came from Time!? Wow! That's bizarre. That's like the NYT giving Bubba's book a bad review. And they did.
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Exactly.
rrrrrrrrrrrrright!
     
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Originally posted by Zimphire:
Good article.

http://www.time.com/time/columnist/p...436268,00.html
Uh, OK...
     
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Originally posted by phoenixboy70:
rrrrrrrrrrrrright!
Hey YOU were the one that posted it thunder thighs.
     
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Jun 28, 2004, 03:31 PM
 
I haven't heard any real disproving so-far, just a lot of name-calling which makes them look pathetic. Mooreons? LOL grow up.

I saw the movie yesterday, I thought it was good, obvioulsy one-sided but good.
     
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how bout you all shut up?

     
 
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